Mounjaro (not Voy) without GP notification

[Mounjarorookie]

is Voy the only provider who do not notify your GP?

I placed my first order with VOY however don’t wish to renew for 2 reasons:

it’s expensive at £229 unless I can persuade someone to be referred.
i only got 3 doses from the pen as it jammed and VOY are not interested/totally non responsive.

im not being reckless or underhand however I have an extremely poor relationship with my GP and they would be less than supportive and very judgmental

i was about to order with Medexpress however cannot do so without consenting to GP contact.

My BMI is still over 30 so I’m hoping I will be allowed to continue using Mounjaro somewhere other than Voy.

thanks.

How did you get on OP? Did you find a supplier?
I’m in a similar position and feeling stuck with Voy. Who I really like but 💰.

I’ve looked into the risk of surgery and I don’t think your GP having it on record makes any difference. For elective surgery, you’d tell the medical team and might have to fast longer. For emergency surgery, they assume full stomach contents anyway so the slower emptying would be irrelevant. In a situation where I was undergoing emergency surgery and presumably unconscious, would the surgical team even have access to my medical records?

I use chequp.com, they don’t check with gp (there’s an option to put it in after they fulfil the order but I didn’t bother). If you dm me your email address, I can put it in on my end so you get £15 off!

Do you need a prescription to use these products?

@Blueberrymuffin8 yes you do. You can do a private consultation with a pharmacist and order it through them if approved.

Re GPs - Oushk take their details but offer the option of contacting or not (there is a letter on my account to download). The Family Chemist create a letter for you to take in but do not appear to send one themselves.

Thank you. I'd like to lose 2 stone so not sure I would qualify? I'm slightly overweight at 11.5 stone (5 foot 7).

Seeing as you have a healthy BMI of 24.9, you are ineligible ,why would you want to use weight loss injections???

I’ve been with MedExpress for just over a month, they notified my GP who put a stop to them prescribing me Mounjaro which I’m devastated by, so 5 weeks into my Mounjaro journey I now have no choice but to give it up unless I can find it without GP notification

What was the reason for that?

Surely there is reasons the gp stopped it. That are in your interest, they won’t have done it out of spite.

im afraid I also find it concerning if someone doesn’t wish their doctor to know, and do not beleive any surgery should offer the option of not notifying.

To those asking my GP replied to MedExpress to get Mounjaro stopped is because I have Colitis, the ironic thing is I’ve been in remission for the past 15yrs with zero symptoms & my Colonoscopies for at least the last 6yrs show no active illness, the trouble is with an illness like this it stays on your medical record for life regardless of wether the disease is active or inactive.

Would also like to state I’ve had zero side effects with the exception of slight burping, my toilet motions have been very good with no diarrhoea or constipation like I hear about from so many others.

There is some research to suggest that Mounjaro is actually beneficial to those with GI disease which makes my exclusion seem even more unfair. I was also pre-diabetic on my last AC blood test so don’t know what treatment they would give me if I developed diabetes when Mounjaro & Ozempic are diabetes medications 🤔

Your GP can't forbid anyone from prescribing it. It's up to the prescriber to decide if they feel it is safe, in the knowledge that you have colitis. Which you presumably told them when they ask for your medical history.

They asked for my GP details which of course I provided them with as I was trying to do this in a responsible way. What I didn’t expect was my GP to have the power to get my Prescription stopped without any kind of communication or consultation with me, it would have been nice if my GP had at least spoken to me to find out more about the reasons I had undertaken taking Mounjaro & discussing it instead of just cutting me off.

I don't think the GP had the power to stop it, but advised MedEx that you omitted UC on your form. MedEx then chose to discontiue prescribing. I've pm'd you.

Yes they can. Even the health secretary said he wanted gp’s to review and prevent people using the drugs when they shouldn’t. Why do you think they notify gp’s ?

Now sure, if you’re saying technically a prescriber can go against a gp’s requirement to stop prescribing. Sure they can. but no good supplier will,ever ever do this. If the gp says no, then they will stop.

That isn't how it works. An independent prescriber can prescribe what they want. They probably decided that they didn't want to deal with someone who lied about their medical history. As the GP isn't funded even to review all these GLP1 letters, they won't have the time to discuss it. They would have said 'please be aware that x has colitis' and that's it.

We are saying rhe same thing, I am fully aware an independent prescriber can ignore a gp’s request. I literally said that, my point is, they will not.

and secondly you do not know what a gp wrote, many gp’s review. Mine did.

Oushk asked if I gave permission to notify my GP - I ticked yes so dont know if they would still supply if I said no, but you could try them.

They would.

personally I think it is terrible that some of them do this, not many but some do. I hope they put a stop to it, There is no good reason not to tell your gp; and it should be on your medical records.

I guess their rationale is the patient takes responsibility and it’s up to them not to lie and to accept they will prescribe based on the info provided,

some gp;s won’t get involved . Other gp;s like mine, say they aren’t supposed to, but as far as they are concerned we are their patients, so they will support. Clearly they can’t do that if they don’t know.

I get the poster disagrees with the gp and the prescribers decision, the issue is some research shows it may help as she says, but others say it make make it worse and even force surgery, so they’ve played safe, plus if it goes wrong for the poster and they’d prescribed against gp wishes, then she could sue the arse off them.

if she’s prediabetic, then she should speak to her doctor and maybe get referred to weight management clinic,

Interesting, I have just requested my first injection, I have declared my crohn's so will see if I am approved. Not via MedExpress though.

My GP record actually states Crohn's / Colitis as they’ve never really actually decided which it is, having said that both disease's are pretty much equal to one another. I’ll be surprised if your GP doesn’t do the same as mine did and stop the prescription mine does everything by the book & it’s always his way or the highway, good luck anyway 👍🏻 I would be interested to hear who you are getting your supply from if successful as I will be trying to obtain mine elsewhere in the hope I’m successful without GP intervention as I feel the benefits are worth the risk especially in my current state of my disease being inactive for so long.

@Ed31 id be very surprised if my GP even opens the letter. The NHS hospital sent them a letter asking them to prescribe me something and that’s taken 8 weeks to process!
IMO it will be more whether the private prescriber is willing to take the risk.

I don’t like how you presume I lied. I didn’t indicate I had GI disease when applying for Mounjaro as I’ve been completely symptom free & been in remission for 15yrs & as far as I’m concerned I don’t suffer with any form of GI disease, what would you have done in the same situation?

Of course it goes without saying that if my disease was in anyway active I wouldn’t have even considered starting Mounjaro. As stated previously there is now research out there to suggest Mounjaro is actually beneficial to GI Disease patients.

As someone who has a BMI of 38 & at my heaviest weighed 18st (now 16st) as well as being pre diabetic my health was in far more danger without Mounjaro than with it… IMO

I will be raising this with my GI consultant when I next see him as he is way more approachable than my GP.

Inflammatory bowel disease is a lifelong condition whether or not in remission - particularly if you're on meds but even not - but that could be a misunderstanding. You'd presumably declare it on e.g. travel insurance?

I mean you do have a gi disease, the fact it’s not active isn’t relevant. And the fact you even have a gi consultant tells you you do.

It’s Very relevant to me…