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To think driving is very hyped up?

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Countbinface39 · 08/07/2026 13:29

I recently passed my test at almost 40. It took me 8 attempts, I'd had lessons on and off over the years and resigned myself to not driving. It was a relief to pass, not because I desperately needed to drive but because of the social pressure.
I am glad I have the option and don't have to do it again, I genuinely believed I wasn't cut out for driving.
There's a lot of hyperbole around driving which didn't help. I had people telling me I'd 'finally get my independence' when I passed. I own my own house, lived alone abroad for years, completely financially independent.
Also 'your life will finally start!' I'd like to think it started many years ago! I've never lived in very remote areas so luckily I wasn't heavily reliant on it, I never got lifts. I paid for ubers etc. But that's hardly the same as someone giving you a free lift!
I think a lot of people project their own experience onto you- they're maybe thinking of being 17 and relying on parents to get anywhere.
Driving has certainly given me more options, but it's hardly this magic carpet- still have to pay for the car, insurance, deal with dangerous drivers, parking, traffic etc- people always forget those things!
Someone even said my partner must 'have the upper hand' in our relationship because he had a car, which is ridiculous. People work as a team, you could apply that logic to anything, people who earn more, etc.
Anyway, rant over! I've got myself a cheap little runner that gets me from A to B, that's another thing some people comment on, if it's under 10k,15k, whatever it's going to fall apart the minute you get into it. More nonsense, i think the stress of being the only non-driver got to me, i felt like it was a very normal part of life I'd never get to do, but I'm glad I've got it.

OP posts:
DdraigGoch · 08/07/2026 17:51

JustPassingTime · 08/07/2026 14:06

Driving is the epitome of freedom.

It might be for you, it isn't for everyone.

nrsvje355 · 08/07/2026 18:06

crackofdoom · 08/07/2026 17:35

I think the access to and normalisation of car transport has led to a world where you often don't feel free unless you have a car, yes.

I live rurally, and have recently been having a lot of mechanical issues with my van. I had to go out and buy a cheap stopgap car almost immediately, as I would have lost thousands in earnings otherwise. Have been having some illuminating chats with other people recently. "Oh yes....I've had to spend 5 grand on my van this year"...."The amount of money I've had to spend on this car, I've lost all faith in it"...."Just spent 17 grand on a new van, then the head gasket went and I'm having to hire a van to keep earning". Etc etc...

Is this our freedom now? We don't have an option not to own these money pits, because our lives have been built around them, and public transport has been comprehensively trashed because "everyone has cars". (Sometimes this was deliberate- Beeching's cuts were a result of heavy lobbying by the motor industry).

You just need to put more thought into the kind of car you buy. My car is 16 years old. It has a full service every year. It’s a very reliable model. I’ve owned it outright for 16 years. It costs me £30 per year to tax, and £150 per year to insure. I’ve saved tens of thousands over the years by owning a reliable car outright and looking after it. Why Brits are obsessed with having a £30,000 brand new car on the drive, I’ve no idea. My dad was a mechanic. He taught me early on in life what sort of car to choose and never to put one on finance.

Simonjt · 08/07/2026 18:08

I’m the only driver in our home, I recently sold our car as we hadn’t used it in months, and even then it was only being used to check the battery as I kept forgetting to unplug it.

crackofdoom · 08/07/2026 18:09

nrsvje355 · 08/07/2026 18:06

You just need to put more thought into the kind of car you buy. My car is 16 years old. It has a full service every year. It’s a very reliable model. I’ve owned it outright for 16 years. It costs me £30 per year to tax, and £150 per year to insure. I’ve saved tens of thousands over the years by owning a reliable car outright and looking after it. Why Brits are obsessed with having a £30,000 brand new car on the drive, I’ve no idea. My dad was a mechanic. He taught me early on in life what sort of car to choose and never to put one on finance.

Edited

Wow, aren't you clever 🙄

Most people look for as reliable a vehicle as possible and get them serviced every year.

You've just been lucky.

Totaldramallama · 08/07/2026 18:12

I don't know anyone who talks about driving the way the people around you seem to.

For me it is invaluable, where I live and work and getting to dds hobbies and driving nice places to walk the dog and loads of places not even closely accessible by public transport. But I've never met anyone who acts like driving is some kind of religion

BuildbyNumbere · 08/07/2026 19:45

aliceyyyy2654 · 08/07/2026 13:40

I’m not sure how comfortable I feel about someone being on the roads who took 8 attempts to pass 🫣

💯

Toohotforwork · 08/07/2026 19:50

backformoreofthesame · 08/07/2026 15:51

Breathing - you die without it

walking - you can seriously shorten your life if you don’t do it.

pretty critical

driving - encourages laziness leading to early death, encourages selfish behaviours from safety of the inside of your tin can , helps destroy the planet, yip just the same as breathing and walking

some people do make out like it’s life changing but really it can become life controlling - enabling you to live a more hectic and frantic life which isn’t great but seems to make peolle feel busy and important

dint get me wrong - I love my car but I do know where the Op is coming from

I suppose I have never really thought of it as in any way hyped. Just one of those things you learn to do - it's not that hard. I don't really look back and have it as any more of a life event than learning to ride a bike or learning Pythagoras theorem. I never come across anyone who has been particularly impressed that I learnt to drive.

MadMumOfTwoHorrors · 08/07/2026 19:58

I’ve been driving for 32 years and I absolutely love it so I regularly just do it for pleasure. For me, nothing makes me feel more alive than just me, my car and the open road. All the stress of the day melts away and I feel such a sense of calm.
As soon as my kids passed their tests, I got rid of my family car and bought myself a sports car and a few weeks ago, at the grand age of 50, I took my race test and became a qualified racing driver.
People are all different, so for some driving is just a means to get somewhere and for others it’s a hobby, a way of life, and a massive pleasure. And that’s okay 🙂

Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · 08/07/2026 20:09

Eight attempts? Blimey.

Singlemumsurvivor · 08/07/2026 20:16

I couldn’t wait to pass my test and did at 17 first time. I’ve had a car and licence for almost 37 years. I’d hate to be without a car.

my kids do clubs at night and to get them there and back without a car would cost a fortune in taxis. I grudge paying for a taxi and hate public transport.

MidnightMeltdown · 08/07/2026 20:21

BirdLandedonmyHead · 08/07/2026 13:35

Non drivers build their lives around solutions to not driving (publuc transpirt, deliveries, ubers etc)

Drivers dont. I couldnt live where I live and get my DDs to their sports practices, do my own hobbies, even simple things like the post office without great difficulty. But i have a car, that doesnt matter.

Presumably your public transport is better, and youve chosen activities etc accessible to you.

Not really. I don’t drive because I don’t need to, but if I needed to then I would learn.

I work from home most of the time, and when I go into the office I get a bus or train. So does everyone else where I live, regardless of whether or not they have a car, because traffic is awful and there’s nowhere to park. There would be absolutely no point in me paying tax and insurance to have a car rusting on the drive that I might use once a month, if that.

Maybe I’ll learn someday if I decide to move somewhere rural, but it’s likely to become an obsolete skill in the next 20 years.

phoenixrosehere · 08/07/2026 20:26

BelieveInCher · 08/07/2026 15:38

Do you feel the same way about people who don’t drive their own trains, fly their own planes or sail their own boats?

Mumsnet is so weird when it comes to driving, these threads always lead to so many posters haranguing non-drivers as if they see it as a personal insult to themselves. I never see this anywhere else. I am nearly 40 and I know plenty of people my age and older who don’t drive. They live perfectly great lives.

Not driving may limit some aspects of life but that’s true of everything. Becoming a parent limits your ability to have spontaneous nights out, getting married (usually) limits your ability to flirt with and meet new people, living in the country limits your access to the city, living in the city limits your access to countryside views etc etc.

These are all choices we all make every single day, but only the driving one seems to get Mumsnet up in arms.

Right.

I haven’t had anyone say anything to me except for one person from my kids’ school because they saw me walking to a shop that was 30 minutes away. I have no issue with walking such distances especially on a Saturday in nice weather and have walked that long and longer for most of my life because I enjoy walking and prefer taking public transport over being in a car. I have made the conscious decision to live and work in places that I don’t need a car even if that means paying more in rent because it would still be cheaper than having and maintaining a car. I know how to drive. I just simply didn’t feel the freedom so many drivers claim nor really enjoy being in a car whether I’m a driver or a passenger. It is just one of the ways to get from point a to point b to me and that’s it. I’d happily take a train than spend hours on the motorway.

Even if I did drive, it wouldn’t be relaxing to me or necessarily better because oldest is nonverbal autistic who gets upset in the car without warning even with his ear defenders on, would try to open the car door if he wasn’t in the backseat where child’s lock are, take off his seatbelt while driving, etc.

Of course I could go out in a car on my own but then having seen the way drivers are in my area and beyond, I rather not.

I don’t get why it bothers some drivers on here that some choose not to drive especially when they don’t rely on others and make their way to wherever they need to be on time.

Wouldn’t you want less people on the road?

Peony1985 · 08/07/2026 20:38

Flamingojune · 08/07/2026 13:38

Car drivers dont look very free when they are sitting in traffic jams

But even then you have your music, snacks, drinks etc. You can open and close the windows and not be bothered by other people.
At some point you have a choice as to route. Last time I went on a train we had to get off three stops early ( 25 miles from the destination). Had to get picked up by car

spstchmu · 08/07/2026 20:53

Gardeningsideeffects · 08/07/2026 13:39

It took me 4 goes and I finally passed at 21.

I wouldn't have had any of the jobs I've had as they all required driving. I wouldn't have been able to visit friends or drive to distant funerals or have holidays in parts of Europe with no public transport.

I wouldn't have been able to take DC to nursery and school or go to the beach with them.

I wouldn't be able to go to the Tip or collect DC from school or do an emergency late night dash to the supermarket for a broken calculator before an exam.

I wouldn't have been able to move to another country and take DC to parties in places I hadn't been to before.

I love driving and owning a car and yes it has given me all my independence.

Its about mindset and experience though isnt it. Do you believe non drivers live in a tiny bubble in the centre of cities? We get where we need to go. Might take a little longer, sometimes, might have to walk a bit farther but its cheaper, way better for the environment and for some, the only option.

I will say I have heard far more complaints about people not being able to get to a certain place driving because of traffic, parking or their world stopping because the car is broken. Whereas people who rely on public transport are more used to thinking up an alternative.

Horses for courses. Although the more that use it at least sometimes, the better public transport will get.

WigglesFlamingo · 08/07/2026 20:57

I love my car. I love being able to drive.

But the novelty has worn off at this stage. It bores the tits clean off me. I have a 30 minute drive to work each day that is only tolerable due to Audible.

spstchmu · 08/07/2026 21:09

spstchmu · 08/07/2026 20:53

Its about mindset and experience though isnt it. Do you believe non drivers live in a tiny bubble in the centre of cities? We get where we need to go. Might take a little longer, sometimes, might have to walk a bit farther but its cheaper, way better for the environment and for some, the only option.

I will say I have heard far more complaints about people not being able to get to a certain place driving because of traffic, parking or their world stopping because the car is broken. Whereas people who rely on public transport are more used to thinking up an alternative.

Horses for courses. Although the more that use it at least sometimes, the better public transport will get.

This said it would maybe be easier to have a car and it would definitely open up more job opportunities. However I dont and its not the end of the world. In my road only two people have a car.

spstchmu · 08/07/2026 21:10

Peony1985 · 08/07/2026 20:38

But even then you have your music, snacks, drinks etc. You can open and close the windows and not be bothered by other people.
At some point you have a choice as to route. Last time I went on a train we had to get off three stops early ( 25 miles from the destination). Had to get picked up by car

Bet you can't knit on your commute though 😆

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 08/07/2026 21:38

I love driving. It has given me a lot of freedom. My DB passed first time and has never had a car which annoys me as my mum can’t walk and so I have to drive to their house all the time.

MenopauseSucks · 08/07/2026 21:47

ZanyPoet · 08/07/2026 13:56

I have seen the reverse far too often.

People smug about driving and their car, and organising their life around it. Fair enough, but then when they suddenly cannot drive for whatever reason, sometimes for a very long time. Then they are completely stuck and it's a nightmare.

I would never rely on my car that badly. If I need to drive to work, fine, but I can always change job if I am suddenly unable to drive.

I think it's dangerous to settle in the middle of nowhere and not considering how you'll manage the day you lose your licence or have an illness.

My Dad & his wife retired to the depths of Gloucestershire, beautiful house & garden, a lovely village pub, the rural idyll.
Now 20yrs later, he can’t drive due to ill health, there’s no public transport, GP & supermarkets are around 8 miles away some of which are unmarked roads, the roads flood regularly so they’re cut off, plenty of farm machinery & his previously confident wife will no longer drive them after dark as the roads are so dire.
They can get food deliveries but the local taxi service is 1 bloke who has to be booked in advance & usually only does airport runs!
They'd lived semi-rurally before & it’s a shame they still not there as ageing would’ve been so much easier.
Escape to the country but at a price…

BoswellTheScribe · 08/07/2026 22:01

I didn’t learn to drive until I was almost 30. I managed okay, even getting two buses to work at one point. However, if I didn’t drive now my children wouldn’t have the experiences they have, or be able to attend the clubs they attend.
We live in a small town and public transport is okay but not great, and doesn’t always run where and when you need it to.
It’s so much easier to be able to just jump in the car to get to an appointment or pick the kids up from school if they’re ill etc.

2chocolateoranges · 08/07/2026 22:11

I didn’t start learning to drive until I was 26. We didn’t have a car when I was growing up so I didn’t have the notion to learn to drive. I had friends who drove, my boyfriend drove (now husband ) so I didn’t have to, I was happy to get the bus……… until I had a baby, a pram a changing bag etc, the buses then weren’t as good as the buses now and you had to fold the pram up. It was a hassle.

being able to drive has opened up so many options for me regarding jobs, I went back to college to one that I couldn’t get a bus to easily, my children have had so many options in life such as guide camps, chess competitions, dance competitions, we would not have been able to do these if I didn’t drive.

my children, now young adults were both encouraged to learn to drive at 17 and both passed their test at 18. Both having many options regarding their jobs.

I would encourage everyone who is able to , to learn to dive.

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2026 22:17

Theraininspainishere · 08/07/2026 14:56

I think if your life is smallish, driving doesn’t free you up that much.

I love just driving into Wales (or any remote area in UK or Europe) in my camper van, stopping near remote lakes and rivers, swimming, walking, moving on or staying whenever I wish.
You’d be pressed to find an Uber in that situation.

In the last 18 months, I have visited 19 European countries (all reached by scheduled surface transport), plus the Asian part of one of those countries, one African country (flew to that one), and seven Carribbean islands (flying the long haul, then sailing between each of them on a brigantine - this was no cruise liner). I skiied in Bulgaria, scuba dived among the Roman ruins of Baiae, snorkelled with turtles in Tobago Cays, and got absolutely plastered on a pub crawl in Riga. I'm now looking at applying for a Canadian work permit.

Is my life "smallish"? I venture that it has been broader than that of the average motorist. If I was on the hook for the running costs of a car I'd never have afforded half of it.

N.B. I can drive, I just choose not to. I've done the pitching up in remote farms in Wales too, bikepacking is great fun.

takealettermsjones · 08/07/2026 22:39

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2026 22:17

In the last 18 months, I have visited 19 European countries (all reached by scheduled surface transport), plus the Asian part of one of those countries, one African country (flew to that one), and seven Carribbean islands (flying the long haul, then sailing between each of them on a brigantine - this was no cruise liner). I skiied in Bulgaria, scuba dived among the Roman ruins of Baiae, snorkelled with turtles in Tobago Cays, and got absolutely plastered on a pub crawl in Riga. I'm now looking at applying for a Canadian work permit.

Is my life "smallish"? I venture that it has been broader than that of the average motorist. If I was on the hook for the running costs of a car I'd never have afforded half of it.

N.B. I can drive, I just choose not to. I've done the pitching up in remote farms in Wales too, bikepacking is great fun.

This sounds amazing!

But have you ferried three kids, three school bags, two PE kits, two prizes for the tombola, one art project, one Roman soldier costume, and a trombone across town to one setting, and then back the way you came and into the next town to another setting (minus one kid and one PE kit) for 8:50? 😅

nomas · 08/07/2026 22:46

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2026 22:17

In the last 18 months, I have visited 19 European countries (all reached by scheduled surface transport), plus the Asian part of one of those countries, one African country (flew to that one), and seven Carribbean islands (flying the long haul, then sailing between each of them on a brigantine - this was no cruise liner). I skiied in Bulgaria, scuba dived among the Roman ruins of Baiae, snorkelled with turtles in Tobago Cays, and got absolutely plastered on a pub crawl in Riga. I'm now looking at applying for a Canadian work permit.

Is my life "smallish"? I venture that it has been broader than that of the average motorist. If I was on the hook for the running costs of a car I'd never have afforded half of it.

N.B. I can drive, I just choose not to. I've done the pitching up in remote farms in Wales too, bikepacking is great fun.

It sounds amazing and I definitely didn’t think not driving holds people back from having full lives.

However, I don’t think running a car is expensive for everyone.

My costs per annum:

MOT: £40
Road tax: £135
Car insurance including breakdown/ car recovery: £300

Yes there is also cost of petrol but I can walk to work so this is in my control.

Also from time to time I need a new tyre or brake pad or spark plugs.

And I’ve also been lucky that my car has never had any major faults, just the above maintenance.

But I don’t think running a car is unaffordable if you can afford international travel.

Iriseee · 08/07/2026 22:51

I agree with you OP. I got my first car aged 40 and tbh I don't really use it very much. I take my bike most of the time because it's quicker, more fun, and easier & cheaper to park!