School toilets

[Sweetheart1990]

School toilets!
Son text me to say he had walked out of lesson after being refused permission to go to the toilet, he had finished all his work. I have always told him to do this if he is desperate but he never actually has before.
He has been put in isolation.
I'm angry as I really believe that students should be allowed to go when they need to and he had completed all tasks so was just say in the classroom anyway.
What does everyone else think?

Why would you make a child uncomfortable if they don't have to be? He had finished his work

I imagine the number of parents like that is minimal. However, it is possibly linked to children starting school too early and they are not being taught at school because it is the parents’ job, and not by the parent because they are at school all day… I’m sure it’s less of a problem where mandatory education starts at seven.

Nevertheless, it is a problem that needs to be solved. Teachers are often parents too and I don’t think they are all just blaming the parents. We should stop brushing it under the carpet and ask for someone to take responsibility in giving our children good facilities and bringing up the children right, and work on it like it matters - school heads at school, parents/ carers at home.

He didn't dick about, he left home for the bus, which was a little late and went straight into his lessons

If he finished all his work it suggests it was close to the end of the lesson.

If your child cannot wait 5 or 10 minutes to hold his bladder then he needs to be potty trained. Part of potty training is control of the bladder.

Shame he will not be able to go on a school trip this year.

No it wouldn't as I expect secondary school age children to be able to go to the toilet unaccompanied as they do in primary school. My first question would be "Why is a teacher accompanying them to the toilet?"

If this was my kid I'd reassure him that he did the right thing, and if you desperately need to use the toilet then you go rather than wet yourself.

However I'd also tell him that schools run on these shitty rules, and you broke the rule so you have to do the punishment.
Yes, it's a load of nonsense and it's not something to worry or stress about, but this is the way schools are now and you just have to suck it up.

Oh don't be ridiculous. So you would sit there and wet yourself? Of course you wouldn't. No meeting is that important you can't pop out for a wee.

You don't mention his age but assuming secondary school, he should be able to manage his visits to the toilet around break times.

If kids are allowed to go whenever they want to, the slackest 10% of the class will be gone for 10 minutes every single lesson. It's unmanageable.

I would just accept the isolation, it's not that big of a deal.

Then add that he’ll take the sanction rather than have a toileting accident in the class. The staff would be more likely to take him seriously then which they won’t if you rush in all guns blazing and drag him home.

Yes being desperate makes you very uncomfortable

Yeah, let's just accept things are shit and couldn't possibly be any better.

Great attitude to teach your kids.

My post was in response to it being said they wouldn't mind if the teacher went to the toilet.
Imagine it. Teacher goes to the toilet. Books get thrown. Fight breaks out. Anything.

First question will be where was the teacher!

this is very interesting - the fact you have previously has a conversation telling him if he is desperate for the toilet just to walk out. Its not something I have ever discussed with my kids - so he has been desperate before? Would it help to get a dr's note saying he had a medical reason for needing to leave asap sometimes? Just walking out thinking he is above the rules of the classroom is not something to encourage. You are acting like there is no choice - the choice was to sort this out before he got to desperate with dr's permission to be presented to the school. I would not assume that a child at the first class of the day would desperately need the loo after 40mins into their school day.

I can’t believe some of these responses.

If my child needed the toilet and was desperate,
then refused to go I’d also be telling them to walk out and go.
no one should be refused going to the toilet if they can’t hold it in.
it’s awful when your desperate and can’t go.
ive excused myself from a meeting for the toilet, even though ive been before hand.
its not a crime of the century

Why didn't he go before the lesson? It's a well known trick to get out of lessons, isn't it? When I was at school, nobody was allowed to go to the loo in the middle of a lesson - you learned to wait.

So you don't believe him when he says he has, but you believe the rest of his story?

"He has been put in isolation."

Or if Hitler came. Then you would go.

So many people here treating the idea that a child needs the toilet as some sort of strange new request, how would you like to be dictated to on when you mat be allowed to relieve yourself?

He text me to say he will be isolation for walking out, I rung to ask them if that had been informed or of he was jumping the gun

This is my exact point, especially if he had no more work to do, why would it be a problem

Ok well you said he was put in isolation so it's all a bit confusing.

Either way if you feel this strongly, his isolation is going to be over by the time you stop MNetting and get there.

He needs to learn to use the toilet at appropriate times, before and after lessons.
It’s part of being a grown up.

Strange response, I suppose you have a strict toilet routine.

Because the school was previously in the press for actually locking the toilet doors in lesson times, so I had the discussion with my son