What do you think of tarot readings and psychic mediums?

[T1mom]

What do you think of Tarot card readings and similar?

I went to a 'psychic medium' yesterday who was highly recommended by close people I know.

I'm not sure if they were tarot cards or another type of cards. I picked 8 cards, she talked through them. They had relevance to my life but I am skeptical and think that any card could have been twisted to fit my life. She asked a lot of leading questions and I feel like I filled a lot of gaps for her.

My DH saw her separately and thought she was brilliant and bought every word she said. Thought she knew a lot about his life and past and believes every word she said about his future.

What do you think? I'm intrigued because so many friends have totally bought into it.

Good to hear.

No, because we don't live in the days of Exodus, we live under the New Covenant which means the witch is able to be forgiven if she repents and rejects witchcraft. If we weren't able to be forgiven every single one of us would eventually be judged and thrown into Hell when the final judgement comes, no exceptions. God is merciful because he is giving humanity time to repent via Christ's blood. Flee the wrath, it's coming very soon.

What happens if the witch does not repent ?

I would imagine there are loads of witches that do not believe in Christianity.

My opinion:
Psychic mediums are con artists.
A Tarot reading from an insightful person can be a useful way of talking about your life and your options.

I saw one about 10 years ago and she was incredibly accurate even describing the character of some of my relatives and things she couldn’t possibly know. She made predictions which came true. I think some are very good and others not, like most things in life, but there are definitely some that are very gifted.

Then she will suffer the same fate as all who reject Christ.

And I am guessing that involves fire ?

So it's basically believe in the same as you or it's into the fire ? No coercion there then. It's really a pretty violent religion.

Mantel in real life was a big believer in ghosts; she wrote about it. So I don't think Alison was meant to be a fraud as such, but as you say, was obviously a "double story" about her guide/visitor and what that kind of "ghost" meant, whether he was real or in her mind.

No, I cannot 'coerce' you. It's impossible. Only the Holy Spirit can convict you of the need to repent and come to Jesus Christ as your saviour because He is the only way to salvation. Why would you reject that, a beautiful relationship and eternal life, no more suffering.

Humanity is horribly violent, because we rejected God and decided to go our own way. Christianity promises peace in the next life, but doesn't promise an escape from violence and persecution in this one.

So it's Jesus or the fire ?

And on the thread subject, life after death won't be peaceful with all these mediums about.

Yep.

Derren Brown addresses this one of his TV shows. He's spot on with his 'readings '. He wrote a letter to a group of uni students as part of the show and some were in tears. They accused him of reading their diaries. They swapped letters and they were identical. He's adamant that he's not psychic and no-one should be fooled.

He's jaw dropppingly good at cold reading. It's quite something to watch

Eternal life is a terrible prospect and one of the many reasons that Christianity is not for me.

I'm curious as to why it's a terrible prospect?

Im curious as to why you think it’s not!

I’ve had a very easy, sheltered and privileged life and it’s still hard every day. Life is intrinsically about movement along timelines, getting older, gathering regrets, feeling fear and making mistakes, therefore suffering. If the afterlife involves no suffering or experience and it lasts forever without a timeline then it isn’t life in any form that we know it, it can’t be.

If the good afterlife is only available to those who repent, and eg suicide is due to the sin of despair, then my late husband is in hell, for an action he took when he was psychotic, ie he had no free will at all. I do not accept that that can be a worldview that anyone humane could hold. No religion has an adequate theology of psychosis to me.

I'm very sorry to hear of your husband's suicide. That's a terrible weight to bear. I don't see it as a 'sin' of despair, however, I see that as a spiritual attack on him resulting in a despair that he was unable to repel, and yes it's a tragedy.

I too have had a sheltered life (apart from ending up in an abusive marriage) and have gathered many regrets and mistakes along the way. In eternal life, there will be many experiences and things to learn and marvel at. No, there won't be suffering (thank God!) but it will be a rich life full of relationships and experiences with our creator God and all his children, experiencing the world as it was created to be. It can be difficult to picture this as it is such a different concept to our own lives as they are now. We cannot fully understand it until we experience it.

That ‘spiritual attack’ wouldn’t have happened if he’d been on the ‘right’ medication. I say ‘right’ in inverted commas because all the relevant meds have such tough side effects, they are not at all easy to take and I don’t blame him for finding that terribly hard. But while he took them, his psychosis was under control.

It is definitely a matter of worldview and faith; it is a prospect of misery to me both to think of being conscious forever, and that there was a God present in the world while my husband was suffering and unable to do anything but hurt himself.

To me, the evangelical concept of eternal life sounds like having some sort of spiritual lobotomy, that turns you into some sort of eternally helpless drooling vegetable that is no longer "you". You're stuck forever worshipping a god who claims to love you but will inflict horrifying punishment on you if you reject him.

Loads of people we love won't be there, but we're told we won't care because we'll be too busy mindlessly worshipping.

Honestly, it sounds truly horrifying. I'm glad we just die.

Oh gosh. :( We will be our unique selves, to the maximum of our potential. We will worship God because we have already chosen to do that, of our own free will. God will not be punishing us because in the eternal life there will be no sin!

I think it’s bunk. No one who is happy with their life and feels in control of it, goes to see a psychic. That’s what they prey on. Mediums generally prey on people who are very vulnerable and grieving. They are all very cluey in reading people psychologically and us g that for each new step/bit of information.

Like I told you previously, I'm a former evangelical Christian. There's no evidence any of this is true, and God is such a monster he doesn't deserve to be worshipped. I've suffered horrifically at the hands of Christians. I'm willing to take my chances with the demons.

Well, if you are a non believer it doesn't matter does it ?

Have a nice time then !

BTW be careful what you wish for.....🙂

So why are you bothering to post about it, if it's such bunkum ?