Are you boycotting Lush?

[MookySpinge]

I am, but wondered what the rest of you think of their decision to support Hunt Sabs - feel it is on a par with any other terrorist group personally. Should probably do a link but iPhone is behaving badly at the moment.

I think this has been a bit of an own goal Mooky as you have certainly advertised this Lush initiative to people who weren't aware of it before, and I think a few people might now be shopping in Lush for their christmas goodies.

Actually, the man involved in the Trevor Morse case has been charged with (and pleaded not guilty to) manslaughter not murder

Hilarious that skihorse thinks that if you enjoy riding in the countryside you must automatically enjoy chasing a fox to its death. oh yes and if you don't you must have a chip on your shoulder.

Equally hilarious that greenmonkies asserts that a fox is likely to be as equally stressed by a walker passing by as being chased by a pack of hounds for miles before being killed by dogs.

All the disingenuous reasons hunters come up with to defend their ultimately very selfish desire to hunt are very annoying really.

Colditz I think you misunderstood me, I just meant that there are now more foxes killed than there were before because we didn't worry about it so much because the hunts were going out anyway and might catch a few.

My family breed ornamental ducks and chickens and foxes are a real problem. They don't just kill to eat what they can manage, they kill the entire lot so they can come back and eat them later.

They are the biggest predator in the wild now and there isn't a lot else that can manage them, apart from traffic obviously but it's not reliable!

We do shoot grey squirrels too. They're not the cute little nut gatherer that some of you innocent folk seem to think. They eat eggs and baby birds. Sorry, didn't you know that?

And foxes caught mange from dogs.

They are animals, they eat what they can! dogs would do it too.So would cats - I still love my cat.

They don't go out at night thinking to themselves "I know, tonight I'm gonna break into Mother Blackbird's nest and violently slaughter her babies" - they go out looking for food. We eat eggs too, remember?

Foxes don't kill everything they see out of spite, they do it for the same reason a hunter will not stop at one rabbit - to save having to hunt again tomorrow. We do that too, remember?

Sorry, didn't you know that?

Look, Dawnybabe, wild animals do nasty things. They eat other animals. Foxes kill animals. And they always will. Keeping your birds secure may be a more reasonable option.

dawny dontcha love nature?

I've avoided Lush for a while - it's that smell - but now I shall be popping in to treat myself to some nice shower gels

I loathe hunting. Love horses, love riding, but can't bear the thought of a wild animal being chased. We're overrun with cats round here

Good on you, Lush

Interesting Rusty about the gyrocopter pilot.

Fuck lush.

Now I have someone to boycott.

Hurrah.

(And I suspect plenty of other people in the sort of upmarket places they tend to have their stores will do likewise. There's only a limited number of people willing to spend £8 on a bar of soap - best not to alienate your customer base.)

And that Dawnybabe is the problem I have with hunting. It's about protecting profit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an ignorant sentimental townie, I do come from farming stock.

If you want to make money from ornamental ducks and chickens then it is up to you to protect them adequately from foxes. I realise that doing so incurs cost but that is the business you are in so you should bear that cost.

Why should the fox population be managed so your family can make money and cut corners in protecting your stock?

my mother used to keep chickens until she gpt fed up of the foxes eating one but killing all the rest because they could.

Same reason the deer population is managed I guess.

There are more deer now in Surrey than ever in history.

We manage animal populations, we manage forests, and we can definitely manage fox populations.

Quite WW. Loving your elderly posh lady relative.

Deer are managed in a very different way, and are culled methodically and humanely, without leaving young without mothers. They are not, note, hunted with dogs. That is illegal, for a reason. Not even Stags now thankfully. I wonder why that is? Could it be that it is, er, inhumane?

She's fab pofaced she looks like Miss Marple but calls a spade a you know what. I want to be like her when I'm old

Actually, I want to be like her now! I'm not posh though so not sure I'd get away with it...

I remember being asked by hunt sabs which way to go, they were compltly lost as a few of the finger posts had been turned on exmoor.

I wonder why they still have the dogs at exford...?

Interesting that we normally only have about 10 regular posters from the riders in The Tack Room but as soon as their is a pro/anti hunting thread we get 95 posts!

That's because the tack room is usually dull unless you ride a horse. This thread isn't about horse riding, it's about hunting.

I haven't ridden since I had children. I used to ride quite a bit in my twenties.

Sorry, am a teensy bit confused.

So, Lush are supporting Hunting Saboteurs? People don't like this? Hunting is illegal now, right? Therefore they are just supporting people who are enforcing a law against a form of animal cruelty?

Am I right? Genuinely asking here, as I don't know a lot about the subject and can't see a problem at the mo.

thats me getting all my xmas goodies from lush this year then. go lush i say.

Hunt sabs = bunch of nutters.

Never bought from lush anyway
Certainly won't now