The broom cupboard 3 - for briefly stranded republicans

[TheHoneyBadger]

First in tops up the gin supplies and turns on the tea urn.

I still can't find anything reliable about what happens if we have a child who is positive with coronavirus and therefore can't be cared for by anyone else (in my case lone parent so definitely no other option). I think that's something we need to know. Some people have received furlough for well over a year now so it doesn't seem 'fair' (whingey I know) if we're expected to take unpaid leave for not being able to leave a sick isolating child home alone. Presumably it would also risk amounting to sex discrimination as most carers are women and therefore the policy would disproportionately effect women and amongst single teachers most often 'only' effect women.

I'd like to see it in writing somewhere. The NEU guidance for NI sounds good but I can't find any reference to it elsewhere. Sorry - realise I'm obsessing a bit over finer details but given no clear guidance it is a bit of a bloody mystery tour to find out anything and I'd like to know these things officially in case these situations arise so we can actually point to what should be done rather than just accept whims of individual schools.

Sadly it doesn't seem odd at all Noble but entirely consistent for them.

@TheHoneyBadger
Yes absolutely- how can they expect work if you are officially sick?

Also bloody unfair when you have no choice but to be put in the position where you got ill in the first place through not choice of your own.
People are just dicks. The boss where dh mostly works was talking to him about Covid once schools go back and asked him not to test if me or any of the kids get it as it's only optional anyway.
I think a few people might be put in that position.
If you don't 'know' you have it, you can just carry on - unless you are ill!

Yes, I guess they don’t need to bother suppressing the data, just stop collecting it (and we know they have stepped in to suppress data before - delta spread in schools removed from the PHE report).

What happened to teachers who had to take time off to look after isolating children?

It is worrying, we’ve previously palmed off sick children onto grandparents but definitely not an option if positive with covid.

And I agree about caring for dc. If I have to and HT says no pay, I shall remind them of the days I worked for no pay during the first lockdown in the Easter hols and half term.

Also bloody unfair when you have no choice but to be put in the position where you got ill in the first place through not choice of your own.

I know this bit doesn't really make sense but I corrected it and it posted it like this anyway. Bloody phone! Still, you get the gist.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_staffroom/4335200-Broom-cupboard-4-soon-be-time-to-think-about-heating-this-place?watched=1

This one is filling up fast. I've put a post at the start of that thread but will put the bit I found on government pages that is a bit relevant here too:

If you are identified as a contact and asked to self-isolate by NHS Test and Trace, including by the NHS COVID-19 app you may be entitled to a payment of £500 from your local authority under the Test and Trace Support Payment scheme. If you are the parent or guardian of a child who has been told to self-isolate you may also be entitled to this payment (my bold).

I'm guessing this is ALL I will find no matter how much I dig. This is the 'parents problems' covered for tories I'm guessing - never mind if you're going to face disciplinary action or lose your job because you can't leave a 3yo home alone or send them to a childminder with covid! Hmm. Surely unions must have thought about this? It seems NI is covered but I can't find anything to suggest we have the same exceptional leave coverage in place.

We’ve got nearly 30 pages left here I think @TheHoneyBadger (only on page 11?).

Re looking after children with covid, surely it would be the same as looking after a child that has chickenpox or similar? Wouldn’t whatever rules apply to you at your school be applied? I might be missing something…?

Morning all

The attendance codes are certainly confusing it would be harsh to penalise people for isolating with covid or awaiting test results! Ultimately, surely, that would just lead to less people going for tests? Maybe that's the plan- nothing would surprise me

I ran for the first time in a while this morning- I'd almost forgotten how much I enjoy it. So, I am aiming to start running 2/3 times a week again as it gives me so much more energy.

Can't believe it's back to school a week tomorrow I need to practise getting up earlier this week

Do you still need to isolate if you have symptoms and are waiting for a test result now? I realise I have no idea about that!

Morning! Back on Wednesday for me, eek!

When DD had to self isolate last academic year, I was allowed split time off work with DH but we both had to do all of our lessons live into our classes with a cover teacher in the room physically with them (apart from sixth from where there is no cover teacher-just me on the screen!)

Meant I could still get paid but was very hard to do with a 5 year old to look after too!

I go back Wed, and today typically is the first day of the holidays that I've been able to stay asleep. 10.43. I wanted to do this all holiday. Raah.

When DD had to self isolate last academic year, I was allowed split time off work with DH but we both had to do all of our lessons live into our classes with a cover teacher in the room physically with them (apart from sixth from where there is no cover teacher-just me on the screen!) Meant I could still get paid but was very hard to do with a 5 year old to look after too

The live teaching is tough Chloe my old school were happy for me to prerecord a PowerPoint. Not sure what the new schools policy will be.

I feel like the pandemic has normalised things that really wouldn't have been considered normal before. I've had staff who have had to take days off due to child illness and, yes, they had to provide work but we sorted cover staff. Is the expectation always going to be joining via Zoom now?

I could honestly see some members of leadership in some schools asking staff to Zoom in whilst ill (with anything not just Covid).

I could honestly see some members of leadership in some schools asking staff to Zoom in whilst ill (with anything not just Covid).
This happened to someone with a broken leg last year.

twitter.com/dr2nisreenalwan/status/1431985452966318087?s=21

An interesting thread starting here about what’s being done in schools in different countries…

inews.co.uk/news/health/boardmasters-festival-new-delta-strain-cornwall-event-1172393?fbclid=IwAR2-aUt5FcrK3KDY7viFa1TJvtdyIxvkTsa6dCC5A55572GhLqZ7T1PoMD0

Don’t know why a new strain is more likely to emerge at a large gathering - have asked the people on Data! Maybe something to do with many unvaccinated?

Let’s all set sixth formers a “What did you do in the holidays?” essay - so we know who to avoid!

The article helpfully quotes the ERP report which discovered... (wait for it).... that behaviours were very different at the Euros from those at Wimbledon!

@JanglyBeads

The article helpfully quotes the ERP report which discovered... (wait for it).... that behaviours were very different at the Euros from those at Wimbledon!

…which were then very different from your average mosh pit.

The new strain probably emerged elsewhere beforehand and was merely incubated en masse via the festival.

Yes born

Kids on the train to Reading festival yesterday were not doing LFTs properly at all. The 'negatives' they were getting will not have been remotely robust, even for an LFT.

On that note, I need to do one tonight too. Boo.

Just been to lunch with some friends who are medics. The NHS is already in deep shit with covid. There is a lot of stuff going on to fudge and disguise numbers - same as there is with school data. Instructions from on high to put anything but covid on the death cert, putting people who come off ventilators after 28 days and die, down as respiratory failure and so on. I've got a right doommongery feeling about this winter.

Wow rule, to all that.

Wow indeed.