The Twenty Fourth Republic - conditions not great and are teachers becoming modern day lepers?

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I think about 16000 of those cases are old cases though. Which would bring it down to about 7000.

We seem to be back to ‘the stats are broken beyond repair’ so I’m not sure how we can tell what the situation is anymore.

These are the corrected figures:
September 25, original figure 6,874 now 7831 September 26, original figure 6,042 now 6786 September 27, original figure 5,693 now 6450 September 28, original figure 4,044 now 4044 September 29, original figure 7,143 now 8558 September 30, original figure 7,108 now 10 157 October 1, original figure 6,914 now 11 047 October 2, original figure 6,968 now 11 754

A lot higher than we were led to believe.

That’s why the whole thing is fucked. 7000 would look roughly in line with the released figures from last week, except that last week’s figures were only c7000 at release and have had a load added to them over the past 48hrs. So I’d guess that there may still be more to be added to today’s figures that should have been released IYSWIM. But who knows.

In a way it’s quite impressive that in a country with a nationalised healthcare system, the government has managed to fuck up testing and reporting of results this badly. It probably could actually have been world beating.

mobile.twitter.com/Dr_D_Robertson/status/1312865105512669187?s=20
This might shed some light on it.

And, at the risk of overusing the word, I believe ‘Oh fuck’ is possibly the only correct response to 16,000 people receiving a +ve test result, but whose details probably weren’t passed on to tracing teams.

Yes, I'm sorry, ohthegoats, you have no idea that the figure of 2 cases in your area is accurate with all the lost data. It very probably isn't.

Those amended figures are genuinely shocking since the ones released made people think we were plateauing or even declining.

Not that 7000 was ever good!

Someone denied him ever saying it on another thread but Chris Whitty DEFINITELY said a while back that if we got to 1000 a day we would need to look at new measures.

And literally nothing has happened in schools. Not one thing. Apparently, Westminster says the return to school has gone 'better than expected'. So they expected it to be a shitshow then, despite all their silly positive noises?

Christ. Happy Monday morning.

We are at level 2. I do not savour level 3 which I can see happening soon.

It's really shit not seeing anyone apart from at work.

Though I'm finding going to nat trust places gives me a momentary imaginary snapshot of near normality. I can forget it's all happening as there's lots of people and kids and you can get a coffee and even the shop is open at one place. quite like the fact the playgrounds are closed, forces us to walk

Don't forget that the government claims to have tiers of actions for schools, which includes total closure at top alert level. The Guardian report utterly contradicts that. The tiers of action were produced to shut the unions up before term started.

It's 11 degrees here today but it's only going to get colder, and that will mean more people shutting windows. I might persevere but others won't, and it will be so uncomfortable! So we have more and more cases and are going to struggle with one actually useful mitigation as the weeks go on.

Our new Sunday morning routine is an amble in the grounds of our nearest NT equivalent property (though it's right in the middle of the city!) and it's a proper oasis. Just surrounded by social distancing sensible, naice families and giggling kids, some tourists etc. A takeaway coffee and a sit and people watch.

I know we're being told that the missing positive figures were told they were positive, so were SI, but I'm concerned that if the figures were missing from the stats, then those people weren't told, or at least a significant number weren't. Especially when I've seen anecdotal statements of people who were waiting for their results for days longer than expected. Likely some of those people with delayed results decided, sod it, no news is good news and carried on with their usual lives.

Of course, it could just be the paranoia sneaking in. But as @Mistressiggi notes, it's getting harder and harder to enforce open windows. I had to tell a teacher I wouldn't work in their class if there wasn't an open window the other day. I'm an LSA. Maintaining social distancing is impossible even though I try to stick to the 15 minutes/1 metre distance as much as possible. But some classes are so cramped because of making space for the teacher at the front that I am always in that 1 metre zone of pupils.

Morning all. I thought you'd all gone quiet yesterday, but it turns out you're over here having a lovely chat without me

I hope all ill people are feeling a bit better today. If you don't feel better, don't go to school.

From a selfish perspective I'd be ok with a circuit breaker except for gym and pool closing. I can see it's awfully unfair for those who want to go away and unfair for kids not to be allowed to hang out with friends they've been crushed into classrooms with for the last 7weeks.

Today is my one really short day. Will go in a bit early to do photocopying but pretty determined to leave as soon as I've finished teaching.

It’s all gone quiet on the circuit break front, hasn’t it?

Their next priority will be trying to persuade us that they’re on top of everything and 22000 positive tests is nothing to worry about.

From a selfish perspective I'd be ok with a circuit breaker

Me too sorry all We’re still going with the notion that no one in my school has tested positive. I cannot believe that considering that our local amount has doubled and other local secondary schools have cases. So we’ve been keeping away from family (especially super vulnerable PIL) and friends anyway.

And sorry @marplemead about your school - I thought schools had stopped that kind of bullshit once they realised that they couldn’t recruit easily anymore. Awful behaviour.

Two confirmed staff cases. Husband and wife with a child in school.

I saw that they are saying no covid vax for under 18. And under 50 unless in vulnerable.
Just feels like that confirms my feeling their plan is infect the children.
They do maybe seem to be trying to not get all uni infected.
A ECV mum on brtus taken to a&e last night with suspected covid after dc seems to have symptoms.
Thing is human error doesnt really was about the numbers as the cmo or whoever predicted it so someone should have queried why when actually 6 from different households could be worse.
Also apparently france are banning home school from next sept.

Well, I know two people who had their tests in that exact window of missing data and never got their results. I am not convinced they all got to people...

Just feels like that confirms my feeling their plan is infect the children.

Just feels like that confirms my feeling their plan is infect the children. their parents and their teachers...

Fixed that for you !

@Keepdistance, What do you mean, France are "banning" homeschool from next year? They'll be insisting that all kids are in school with no Plan B?

Yes, it was in the news. Under the guise of concerns about extremism.

I think France is trying to tackle Islamic extremists who indoctrinate kids instead of sending them to school. A blunt tool though.

unfair for kids not to be allowed to hang out with friends they've been crushed into classrooms with for the last 7weeks

This is what's getting to the kids. Ds wanted to go a swap cards in the park at the weekend. I've lost track of what we can and can't do but I had to say no; but actually he could do it with mates at after school club.

Though I'm trying to work out if they'd need quarantining. Seems stupid when they're side by side using the same crayons and games .

I’m not happy about further restrictions, especially ones that might limit how far I can travel to exercise in a day, as originally set up. I currently can’t see my family who live nearby unless I stand on the pavement and wave.
Pubs, restaurants etc won’t personally affect me, but the economic repercussions will be horrendous for communities. Massive difference between my parents’ local pub observing all the guidelines and the city centre clubs pretending to be pubs and packing people in.
But I have seen grassroots football matches played with lots of contact and spectators all huddled together. And a colleague’s dd plays a sport where masks were mixed up and swapped about 🤦‍♀️. Every higher restriction in those tiers is based on people not doing what they are supposed to do, so 🤷‍♀️. We’re all going to suffer because of the stupidity of others.

I don't think you'll get a circuit breaker unless you're at tier 2.

And in a way you'd already be accustomed to the main restrictions. If they bring in tier 3 here I'm imagining that nat trust will close and that would be the only thing to affect us.

No one is going restaurants or pubs really as you can't meet friends. Not bothering with museums etc.

Ds is going swimming and I was thinking I'd quite like to try sometime as I do think their system is really secure (way more than school!) though I'm reassessing due to the known and level unknown levels round here.

Oh gosh, yes, the NT! . I was really upset by the closure in March. Might be a bit middle class and self-indulgent but hey, you can stuff your Costas and Prets, leave my parklands alone!
Favourite property is still closed, despite being large and free flowing and with extensive grounds, but the volunteers were in the older age group so that’s understandable.