The Twenty Fourth Republic - conditions not great and are teachers becoming modern day lepers?

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Thanks for all the thoughts. Going to mull on it. I would like to email the head and make sure she's aware of my qualifications and previous experience and capacities and point out that all of these are useful for the school and I certainly use them in my own classrooms and generally but can't use them for the whole school unless invited to do so. I will also ask if she can be more clear as to which criteria she thinks I wouldn't meet in writing.

quick meeting with head earlier in day basically saying don't bother applying for threshold as you won't get it

Email them saying this is what I understand you said at our meeting of XYZ. Don't ask them to clarify. They will shit. When they huff and puff and deny they'll have to say what they did say. Then you ask for meeting to agree.

Next time, go in with a notepad. Write it down. Read back: I think this is what you said. I speak from experience as union rep about the willingness of SLT/HTs to lie in their teeth.

They won't like you any better and you might not get the post, but they won't fuck you around again.

VERY interesting prog on radio 4 about over parenting and education system.

We have the most testing in the world.

Makes me think of the comment you ended up then getting a pile on and then a load of deletions, Nobel, as I listen.

Over parenting = increased anxiety and lack of confidence.

Then linking to economics.

I think they're going to talk about the lockdown etc and home schooling.
4 part series.
(Which is why I'm posting here!)

@echt

quick meeting with head earlier in day basically saying don't bother applying for threshold as you won't get it

Email them saying this is what I understand you said at our meeting of XYZ. Don't ask them to clarify. They will shit. When they huff and puff and deny they'll have to say what they did say. Then you ask for meeting to agree.

Next time, go in with a notepad. Write it down. Read back: I think this is what you said. I speak from experience as union rep about the willingness of SLT/HTs to lie in their teeth.

They won't like you any better and you might not get the post, but they won't fuck you around again.

Good point. I think she deliberately did not write it in an email but I still can.

Positive case in my year 11.

Sits at the back but quite a few will be sent home as he plays football.

He had a stomach upset last week... funny that...

He is the one the boys were bitching about last week for 'always being off' . they said' but, miss, he should be in school. He's just skiving. he is definitely not ill'.

I think she deliberately did not write it in an email but I still can

Quite. How they hate to put it in writing.

Think of them as arsey students you need to discipline: find out what they don't want, then make sure they get it.

All the best, The HoneyBadger

Also just noticed, my year 12 who commenced isolating last Weds is back in. The note on SIMS says 'mum keeping her at home for a few days'. Ermmmm…. no, school, that's NOT how it works!!

@echt

I think she deliberately did not write it in an email but I still can

Quite. How they hate to put it in writing.

Think of them as arsey students you need to discipline: find out what they don't want, then make sure they get it.

All the best, The HoneyBadger

Thank you echt. I have emailed her. Way too long and probably wrong but I needed to. Would you mind looking at what I sent her?

I feel I'm going to get a beating on the pubs thread for daring to criticise parents who think the school should do their job for them. Oh well

On top of emailing the head I may also be in trouble for my response to a pastoral email. It was basically saying can you catch up with so and so and so and so in year 7 because they don't understand the homework.

I'm afraid I emailed them saying with requests with that could they please encourage parents to put the onus on their children and encourage them to find their teacher or someone in the department to help as students need to be more important at secondary and parents may not be aware that eg. I see over 300 kids a fortnight as a very part time teacher rather than as it was at primary being 'the' class teacher.

Literally names thrown at me - no form group details etc and I'm meant to search to find out what class they're in and whether I see them in time or if I'm meant to go in my own time to hunt them down in another lesson to explain their homework. It's just not realistic and that should be explained to parents instead of endless forwarding/abdication of duty of emails.

Am I just being a grumpy bitch or trying to put some boundaries in?

independent not important sorry. Feeling a bit fed up of the ridiculous amount expected of us currently. Setting work for isolating kids who have no intention of doing anything has tipped me over I think.

Am I just being a grumpy bitch or trying to put some boundaries in?

The latter. It was a lazy option from the HoY and doesn’t help children become more independent in any way.
Pressure already seems super high and loads is being layered up. Student teacher at breaking point already and a member of SLT was trying not to cry in the staff room.

You're not being a grumpy bitch (or at least If you are it's justified) HOY needs to do some of the heavy lifting on requests like that - Joe in year is not helpful!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8833969/What-SAGE-scientists-REALLY-told-Boris-Johnson-10pm-pubs-curfew-wont-work.html

Gov completely ignoring sage
Who did say about masks in schools and offices.

Not HOYs which is half the problem. As I've said (moaned) previously we don't have them - we have non teachers paid little in these roles and it shows in the 'forward to the teacher' rather than do something approach. Thanks for reassurances. I'm sick of having to go into go and search a child's name to even find out what group they're in and if I am in fact the lead teacher who set the homework and what homework was it anyway. I literally give minimum of a week to set homework so plenty of time to go to the history department and ask.

I've realised that it's an independent task that requires them to do some research hence the parents phone calls and endless emails I'm getting saying, 'we haven't done this yet/we don't know the answers'. It's not even me that determines the homework - it's dictated what we set each week.

Sorry - all i seem to do lately is moan

@HerdyGerdy

Am I just being a grumpy bitch or trying to put some boundaries in?

The latter. It was a lazy option from the HoY and doesn’t help children become more independent in any way.
Pressure already seems super high and loads is being layered up. Student teacher at breaking point already and a member of SLT was trying not to cry in the staff room.

The student I'm supporting is terrifyingly nervous and beyond needy and doesn't seem to have any idea just how much work you need to put in to plan something. I'm not professional tutor (or even UPS lol) but I have spent time with her after school etc and she is meant to be having her very first go at being in front of a class in my lesson this week. I'm hoping and praying she surprises us and has the kind of charisma with kids or natural thinking on your feet quality that sees her through despite issues.

I'm expecting to have to give tons of input and hand holding and extra time to her and frankly after the 'don't bother applying for threshold' thing I'm not feeling massively inclined to use hours of my own time supporting someone who recently told me, 'she's rubbish at explaining things' when I asked her to tell me what she was planning to do with my one and only goodish year 8 group.

Now I really am just being a grumpy bitch.

But I think it's fair to say Herdy that it's a shit time to be a student teacher.

So we actually have 3 staff with Covid but its not being mentioned and its all being kept quiet. Why I don't know!

That's terrible Riga! Have you emailed head and asked why? It's nice to at least clear your own conscience when you're caught up in stupidity.

Year 6 class bubble burst. Positive case in a student who just had a runny nose and tummy ache. They were off then their sibling had symptoms so they were all tested and all have it.

Now I have to isolate for two weeks.

@TheHoneyBadger

That's terrible Riga! Have you emailed head and asked why? It's nice to at least clear your own conscience when you're caught up in stupidity.

I dont want to let on I know. Its very strange.

Bottom set year 11 shouts out today.

' ere miss that Boris is a gimp says I can't go round my mates house but can sit in here packed in. Well he can do one'

Someone said something a bit more eloquent about why we can't have an open evening but everyone can all be in school all day. better class of student

@phlebasconsidered

Year 6 class bubble burst. Positive case in a student who just had a runny nose and tummy ache. They were off then their sibling had symptoms so they were all tested and all have it.

Now I have to isolate for two weeks.

Oh *phleb