Thinking of handing my notice in

[Jessie40]

Hello, I am a LSA in year 1 and after the Pm's latest statement regarding R, Y1/6 to be going back to school I am seriously thinking about handing my notice in.
It terrifies me the thought of having that many people in such a small area. The younger ones will not understand distancing.
I love my job so I feel torn.
I can't decide whether I'm overacting or not.

No we don't know but until teachers are afforded the same protections as every other worker in the country, I guess we will have to keep on talking about it.

I can only make a decision on my own life and my child's life. Yes I am willing to "gamble" because we are very statistically unlikely to die.

If other people don't want to "gamble" then they can stay home.

It seems that teachers have decided that they WILL get it and they WILL die. Why is that?

Good luck with your decision op.

Teacher here. I’m resigning and having made the dedication it is like a weight off my shoulders.

I love the children, and I am good at what I do. My children are happy and make fantastic progress.

I like HoneyBadger trained in 2001. I dare not think how much of my own family’s money I have spent since then, topping up resources etc.

I am going to put my family first this time. The plans are not fit for purpose or in the best interest of children or or staff.

Come September I will feel much better knowing I can homeschool my own children if I feel the need without the worry of being tied in a contract till Christmas.

To any of the non-staff who are looking forward to training and having my old job. Enjoy working 9-3 and the amazing holidays you’ll get totally worth it!

trust , if you like t bring chocolates and flowers tot he staffroom you are welcome, otherwise the door is over there.

But older, non-white teachers are going to be more at risk. I really feel for teachers and TAs who are older and non-white who have asthma and other health conditions.
From what I understand someone who is more at risk is less likely to be asked to work initially, and therefore children won't necessarily have the same staff as the did for the school year so far.

I also wonder how many lunchtime supervisors will resign. It's hard enough anyway employ people to work for 1.5 hours a day. I don't expect all will want to return in September.

@Piggywaspushed if that was aimed at me I'll post where I like thanks.

TrustTheGeneGenie

It seems that teachers have decided that they WILL get it and they WILL die. Why is that?

What absolute bullshit, made upon to suit your own agenda.

We are saying that we should have the same rights and protect afforded other people. Or is that to hard for you to comprehend?

It hasn’t been disproved. All evidence suggests that children don’t spread it. Schools have remained open for key worker’s children ( who would be high risk normally) there hasn’t been any obvious increase in teachers catching or under dying from covid. It’s male low skilled workers and care workers who have suffered the worst.

What absolute bullshit, made upon to suit your own agenda

It's really not though is it? Or else there wouldn't loads of threads about how terrified they all are.

"We are saying that we should have the same rights and protect afforded other people. Or is that to hard for you to comprehend?*

For me if you want Ppe, fine. But kids will never be able to social distance and this won't go away in September so I really don't know how you can have the same rights as everyone else because of the job you do?

I mean there is no solution to that other than shutting schools until there's a vaccine.

What do you actually think should happen?

stairway

All evidence suggests that children don’t spread it.

Blatantly untrue, the limited research shows no such thing.

Given that schools have only been open to minimal numbers any research that says that is flawed.

TrustTheGeneGenie

It is bullshit, because no teacher or TA has said it.

I mean there is no solution to that other than shutting schools until there's a vaccine.

No-one has said that either.

What do you actually think should happen?

You first.

epy - where is this figure from?

For the sake of comparison, men who are doing the most "at risk" jobs still only have a 25 per 100,000 chance of death

Worldometer has 0.4% for an old fart like me

@TrustTheGeneGenie if you can’t play nicely then don’t play at all.

Ihate: congratulations on your peace of mind. If you’ve been teaching since 2001 you deserve a gold clock. I’ve had a couple of long breaks in that time where I’ve done different work.

Never say never-take a break be there for your family do some different less draining work and in a year or two you might think hmm maybe I’ll do some supply and a leads to b leads to c. You’re a teacher and good at it and will probably go back to it at some point.

Home educating can be lovely. I took ds out of primary for a few years and have never regretted it.

@FrippEnos I think what should happen is schools should gradually open in June because I trust that the scientists advising the government know better than I do.

What do you think should happen?

All evidence suggests that children don’t spread it Fuck me @stairway, you should get onto Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance because they obviously made a mistake a last nights briefing then!

The solution (as I keep saying) is that schools stay at the current limited opening (which other countries are opening up to match) until we have effective test, trace and isolate procedures in place.

Trust, the proposals say 15 in a class, which is not 2m distance.

Why are countries with lower death rates than ours not sending them back in this size classes?

Denmark is 10 including the teacher?

The solution is already here. Essential workers are having childcare provided by teachers and all children are having online education from teachers. Teachers and children are wfh where possible just like everybody else.

I understand the fear, I was terrified going to work in a hospital during this pandemic , shitting my pants kind of thing. However if you are low risk there is very little risk. I think teacher’s should be able to wear a mask if they like. If schools reopen families might be able to go back to work, the economy might get a boost and the well being of many children could improve. At some point low risk people need to be brave.

TrustTheGeneGenie

I think that schools should open gradually, with a selected year group, that can be socially distanced and fully monitored and tested.

Pupils and teachers can wear PPE if they wish to.

Increased cleaning of all areas at the end of each day.

If classes are too large (no more than 10) pupils) the year group comes in on a rota.

Social distancing is implemented at all times including breaks and lunchtimes.

Any pupils that break social distancing are sent home.

Any pupils that cough at, spit at or otherwise threaten other pupils or staff are sent home.

Any member of staff or pupil that has symptoms will shut the school for 14 days and all pupils that have been in contact with the teacher or pupil are tested.

That is most of it and most of that is either what other schools are doing with the same information or the same guidance that is given to all people.

It was trust. This is not AIBU and the OP is now not getting the support she asked for, and deserves.

Show some sympathy and human kindness, for pity's sake.

I wish this thread had stayed just between school workers.

What I would add to the current measures is ensuring social workers are checking in on and supporting the children on their caseload with particular attention to those on the at risk register.

I’d also institute a zero tolerance approach for domestic abuse with offenders being forcibly removed from the household and locked up.

I’d also double child allowance to support purchasing of resources or meeting other additional child related costs.

I’d instigate proper testing, tracking and tracing and close airports.

I could go on but most critics aren’t interested in education, public health or safeguarding. They just want their free childcare back and to go back to abdicating all responsibility for their children’s development and education to the state. Even though they think teachers are shit

If other people don't want to "gamble" then they can stay home.

So they have a 'choice' - gamble with their lives at work, and the lives of their own children or stay at home and be unable to pay the bills and so end up in debt, potentially losing their home and being unable to adequately feed their children?

Some choice.