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Thinking of handing my notice in

247 replies

Jessie40 · 12/05/2020 07:09

Hello, I am a LSA in year 1 and after the Pm's latest statement regarding R, Y1/6 to be going back to school I am seriously thinking about handing my notice in.
It terrifies me the thought of having that many people in such a small area. The younger ones will not understand distancing.
I love my job so I feel torn.
I can't decide whether I'm overacting or not.

OP posts:
Piggywaspushed · 12/05/2020 17:42

They might even be able to use microsoft word and the internet, should things need to quickly go online again.

Meow.

FrippEnos · 12/05/2020 17:42

teachers*

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 12/05/2020 17:43

@HeyBlaby what do you mean teachers haven’t been working? I fear you are wrong and I strongly recommend that you contact your school because your child had missed out.

Piggywaspushed · 12/05/2020 17:45

This is not helpful to the OP, who is distressed and posted on the specialist forum if the staffroom for support , consolation, advice and sympathy.

If you want to have a row, go back to the bunfight boards for your fun and games.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 12/05/2020 17:45

@FrippEnos good point! @HeyBlaby what are you doing in the Staffroom?

Healthyandhappy · 12/05/2020 17:46

Stop been silly shop workers are working and so I everyone else get bl to work

pfrench · 12/05/2020 17:48

or want to sit at home on full pay until there is a vaccine.

You're literally posting in the thread about school staff who are going to leave their jobs. No one here is talking about sitting at home on full pay, they are getting out.

TheHoneyBadger · 12/05/2020 17:48

Teachers have been working including 2 weeks unpaid work in many cases when they were providing key workers childcare unpaid over Easter.

We’re more aware than anyone that there’s more to school than teaching-we are expected to be social workers, sen specialists, data analysers, responsible for safeguarding, deradicalising, tackling knife crime, counsellors and occasional punch bags.

Vectors for the deliberate spread of a pandemic is perhaps the proverbial straw.

Piggywaspushed · 12/05/2020 17:50

Go away healthy.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 12/05/2020 17:50

It’s not striking, it’s boycotting. They are different. We are willing and happy to work, but not in unsafe conditions.

And 75% of people in that survey (l think several thousand had answered) think the same.

I will boycott as directed by union. And actually unlike on mumsnet, most people support the teachers. I had a BBC feed about it on my fb. Over 1800 comments, nearly all thinking line me. Mumsnet is an unreal representative of UK

pfrench · 12/05/2020 17:53

Yeah, we've done a survey and only 1 in 4 has said they'll send their kids in. That's good, we'll have tiny groups, probably with the teachers they already know, and the rest of us can focus on getting the other year groups sorted with online learning.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 12/05/2020 17:58

@Healthyandhappy - clearly you are not part of the teaching community with that rather nasty attitude. Please leave the Staffroom if you can respect the community

WanderingMilly · 12/05/2020 18:01

I'm not a teacher but work in a school dealing with children. I'm part-time and earn a tiny amount. I'm also thinking of handing my notice in; the return to school is too early, not clearly thought out and for my role, there are risks which the school does not seem to think are a problem.
To be honest, the whole thing isn't worth it for the tiny amount I earn and I'm with the OP, the stress is too much...

wonkyspottyboob · 12/05/2020 18:01

I was a full-time secondary teacher for 28 years. I took early retirement at 55 last year due to the atrocious management (lack of) which characterises the current UK system. If I were still in service, I would refuse to return until a fully-effective vaccine were available because my husband has diabetes, cardiomyopathy and other serious health conditions. My returning to a full school would mean dealing with up to 180 students per day, massively increasing my chance of catching it and/or passing it to him. He is 66; it could rob him of 20 or more years of life. No way is that worth it, for any money in the world. My heart goes out to all teachers, and I hope that you are not forced to return until it is safe to do so.

pfrench · 12/05/2020 18:08

This healthy and happy person is the same one who made a post yesterday about 'how many hours are you working, how much of a reduction in pay are you getting' - it's trolling teachers, just stop replying to it.

WhyNotMe40 · 12/05/2020 18:11

For the non teachers on here - You know I think I'd be happy to have the same working conditions as care workers - surgical masks, gloves, aprons, and limited time with limited number of people in a room. Say 2 or 3 people? Maybe up to 6 in a large room? May I remind you loads of care workers have died as a result.

Or transport workers (who have also disproportionately died) who have a plastic screen, surgical masks, limited amount of time spent talking to each individual, social distancing at all times....

While teachers have been told not to wear masks, not to expect social distancing, have to remain in poorly ventilated rooms with the population most likely to be asymptomatic carriers, for hours every day, and with 15 students per room - much more than any other country who is reopening (most are reopening to what WE are already currently doing and have been doing all along).
So I guess people want teachers to die? Yes? Repeat the scandal of unprotect care and transport workers?
Oh and have all those children carry the virus back to 15 families per class, who then take it to their workplaces......

WhyNotMe40 · 12/05/2020 18:12

Sorry pfrench. Will ignore from now on. Must stop biting

stairway · 12/05/2020 18:23

I don’t think there is any evidence that teachers are the most at risk group though. Men in lower skilled jobs are the most vulnerable. Children are believed to be very low risk of catching and spreading the virus.

FrippEnos · 12/05/2020 18:23

WhyNotMe40

The only correction I have to your excellent post is

A minimum of 15 pupils, the guidance (and I paraphrase) says if possible if not fuck it.

But then it says that about all of the recommendations.

With the added proviso that if anything goes wrong its our fault.

WhyNotMe40 · 12/05/2020 18:34

Thanks for your correction.

I will also add that to my knowledge, and despite lockdown and limited opening of schools, at least 47 teachers have died, probably more, as noone is tracking them.

Also people can believe anything they want but the evidence shows that children catch the virus at the same rate as adults, just are more likely to be asymptomatic or mild and so sent into school to spread it.
As every country has closed schools to at least some extent there is little evidence about children spreading it. Teenagers however are known to spread it.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 12/05/2020 18:35

Stairway- yes children are low risk, but they spread it. How can you still think like that? It was disproved a bit ago.

FrippEnos · 12/05/2020 18:35

stairway

Children are believed to be very low risk of catching and spreading the virus.

This is untrue. It is one theory that holds little or no weight,

Bollss · 12/05/2020 18:35

And have all these people died as a direct result of their job?

We don't know and we never will know.

FrippEnos · 12/05/2020 18:36

TrustTheGeneGenie

We don't know and we never will know.

Yet you are still willing to gamble other people's lives on it.

LynetteScavo · 12/05/2020 18:37

Children are believed to be very low risk of catching and spreading the virus.

Yes, many believe this.

What I understand is children have mild or no symptoms, not that they don't catch or spread it.