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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

The Third Republic - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/05/2020 19:51

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are not staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

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pinkrocker · 09/05/2020 15:39

Don't know if anyone's got access to the Times online, but this quotes a MN survey. I can't read the whole thing. But sure as shit I didn't see any survey on here sponsored by The Times and if I did, is it ethical to speak of it as representative of EVERY parent?!! www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-head-teachers-fear-ghost-schools-as-parents-keep-children-at-home-7kxgm36gx

phlebasconsidered · 09/05/2020 15:49

No. We have lots of nqt and ones training on the job because they are cheap or free. About half are wonderful but a few just seem so thick and to lack critical thinking. It doesn't help that we are in a very Brexit / Britain first area- very rural and very conservative despite being higher on the deprivation index than Hackney! And the ones training on the job tend to be from here.
When we were doing extremism training I pointed out that our area should be on guard for right wing extremists and we then had to explain to the same teacher what that was..... it's a real issue where we are. When I had to log some very nasty anti Eastern European comments from a student this year it got very nasty with the parents. I think several of the teachers would have let the comments pass by, unfortunately.

The nqt in my team.is a wonderful girl and if i could adopt her I would - so sensible and kind and she gives me hope for the profession as she's already acquired the ability to call out bullshit while bringing in some lovely new ideas to the team. I miss her!

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 15:50

I’m in a little courtyard of barn conversions all facing onto a central area. Sounds posher than it is. Most households appear to be doing sd, a couple clearly not. One has had different visitors every bloody day and he’s well into his 70s. I wouldn’t complain but I do a lot of tutting to myself.

Haven’t seen any groups of kids out and only one idiot has tried calling for my son (usually endless door knocking) and he got my teacher face and voice and hasn’t been back.

Piggywaspushed · 09/05/2020 15:51

We already know Times journalists are on MN - waves!-and trawl the threads. I get a hard copy Times but didn't spot this.

Piggywaspushed · 09/05/2020 15:53

Thete was a fairly obvious journo on MN a few weeks back. Went quiet when called out on jounalistic turns of phrase and leading questions

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 15:57

Here is probably the place to confess. A girl on fb was offering online ‘tutoring’ for years 3 and below. She was doing a btec in childcare at the college and claimed to be starting teacher training in September. Is that really possible?

The confession is that I thought how can someone who hasn’t even done a levels be a teacher? What would their specialist subject/area be? Is academic ability not a requisite now?

Never told anyone in case I’m just a snobby dinosaur but I am interested if this is really all it takes to get onto a BEd?

borntobequiet · 09/05/2020 16:03

It might be a Level 3 Early Years course. HoneyBadger.

borntobequiet · 09/05/2020 16:05

I know some people who claim this is “training to be a teacher”.

PerplexingWords · 09/05/2020 16:10

I know someone who said they were training to be an EdPsych when they were doing a Level 1 OU course.

Appuskidu · 09/05/2020 16:12

I knew someone who claimed they were on a 7 year MSc.

They were doing a foundation year. They dropped out after about 3 weeks...

phlebasconsidered · 09/05/2020 16:12

I have to admit I haven't been.impressed by the on the job training at our school. It turns out academy trust bots and there's no pedagogical training just in at the deep end and do it like this, follow this scheme. The difference between the on the jobs and those that have done a degree or pgce is quite marked in my school. So much must depend on what school you are in. Mine just use them as free classroom fodder.

Feenie · 09/05/2020 16:15

Yep - my sil's niece got onto a Primary Ed course with a BTEC in Childcare, then failed one of the teaching practices so switched her degree to Childhood Studies. Graduated then got onto a.PGCE this year and will be an NQT in Sept having not taught since March.

She posted 'Your beautiful' to someone on Facebook the other day. I wanted to cry!

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 16:19

Are we going to be phased out as expensive relics whilst an army of huns are brought in?

Appuskidu · 09/05/2020 16:29

Don't know if anyone's got access to the Times online, but this quotes a MN survey

I think there was a poll done some weeks ago about if people would be prepared to send their children back if the schools reopened on a certain date. I can’t find it now though, which is odd?!

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 09/05/2020 16:44

Are we going to be phased out as expensive relics whilst an army of huns are brought in?

The army of huns will not last a week! There be some excuse about chipped nail polish, or the Head is being mean about not allowing open-toed sandals or a surly lad who is bigger than them tells them to fuck off or says he fancies a shag and the huns will be gone.

Now reflecting upon it .... let’s get the huns in just for shits and giggles!

#solidarity

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RigaBalsam · 09/05/2020 16:45

I am dreading this road map.

DreamingofBrie · 09/05/2020 16:49

Here's a share token to the Times article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fa318518-908c-11ea-a1ff-1dde97c98818?shareToken

I just caught the end of the buckets thread. Surely half of these posters must be trolls?

I've spent the last two mornings trawling TES for fun resources which are easy to self assess. One particular author is going to think in stalking him!

mumsneedwine · 09/05/2020 16:50

I cannot go back to school until I have had a hair cut. I look like a yeti. Not sure I know where my shoes are either (not left house for 7 weeks as had 'the letter'). And my eyebrows would give Denis Healey a run for his money. I figure if it's not safe to have a haircut it's not safe to be in a room with year 10 boys who will think coughing on me is really amusing.
At least I have a nice sun tan for Monday's lessons. But can someone get teams to add soft filter because I look rough.

FrippEnos · 09/05/2020 16:51

StaffAssociationRepresentative

You know as well as I do that the huns will only fail because the teacher that left didn't leave enough work.

GravityFalls · 09/05/2020 16:51

I had a BTEC level 3 student last year who was planning to be a primary teacher. I’m pretty sure he’d get on to a degree with QTS (he did have experience leading Beavers etc too), and would probably make a decent primary teacher despite having to resit his maths GCSE about a million times. Wouldn’t last a second in secondary though.

I took DS out for a cycle ride while I ran alongside. Most people were SD even though it meant an interesting slalom course along some parts, but then right when we got back we saw DP’s dad who was standing right next to DS on his bike (he’s 8 and fucking oblivious to what’s happening at the best of times). Then I went in through the front gate and left DS to go in through the side gate on to the driveway - I got round to see an old man helping him shut the gate, leaning over practically with his face touching DS! I’m not bothered about DS but you’d think an over-70 would have some common sense.

Anyway that just put the fear of going back to work into me anew. DS is very bright and week-behaved, he understands Covid and SD perfectly well, knows all the news and can follow the basic science but he’s 8 and lives in a bloody dream world.

Cyberworrier · 09/05/2020 16:52

Hello again, thought you may be interested in this doc NEU published showing what questions they have asked the govt - along with evidence to support concerns- which have of course received no replies. Gah. Apologies if you’ve all already seen this. I’m dreading tomorrow waiting for the announcement from the despicable blonde buffoon.
twitter.com/maryboustedneu/status/1259131431143510023?s=21

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 16:59

I don’t like the idea of teachers with no general education or life experience. You’re probably right about the huns not lasting ten minutes.

I’m wondering if this September might give the September when I worked in a school that switched from an upper to a secondary a run for it’s money. 3 new year groups at once, split site to accommodate them and a total timetable fail that saw us needing to teleport between sites to make it to lessons.

Thinking nothing can top that though. Nearly half the staff left at Christmas including me.

Appuskidu · 09/05/2020 17:03

That NEU document is great.

It worries me that they’ve written to Boris 3 times in five weeks and he hasn’t responded once though.

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 17:03

I just reread my post and I’m sorry for awful grammar. I blame auto correct and rushing because my crappy phone often crashes on MN.

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 17:04

Thanks cyber