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Let's boycott all school threads outside of Education

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Everyexitisanentrance · 17/04/2020 23:04

Honestly guys we are getting a kicking on other threads. We repeatedly have to explain our contracts, holidays, why we are not doing more online, why we should be doing less on ...... it is never ending. So far we have been off for the Easter break plus a max of two weeks. There is a lot of the population that do not need childcare. We are open for key worker children but that gets ignored. All the social distancing issues are ignored. All the ppe requirements are ignored. Now it could be that the trolls just see us as an easy target, hence all the forlough calls. So as a union member, I am requesting that teachers do not have to explain themselves on other threads as we are just fueling the fire. (I have been guilty of this).

So I am calling for a union boycott!

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TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 26/04/2020 16:17

Just found this in the TES

Teacher haters will be hating for our blood. Bug let them!

www.tes.com/news/raab-school-openings-inconceivable-if-no-distancing

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 16:30

Thanks emoji I also read this in summary of the Australian research.

Study conducted in time when CT not happening , kids began to be kept home
Low numbers of cases
Incomplete testing
Disingenuous conclusions intended to be more powerful than they are
Info on presymptomatic and asymptomatic transmission still developing

Paper says “only one of 168 individuals was identified to have been infected following close contact with a school case in these five primary schools”

Again, can not say that as did not test 168 individuals
Only swabbed 53 and serology on 21 who obviously overlapped

ard to extrapolate any real conclusions under these circumstances and it is a shaky foundation on which to do so

bettybattenburg · 26/04/2020 16:30

I suppose teachers could each carry a stun gun...would the haters be happy for schools to open then?! Grin

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 16:32

I tried google translate some interesting points.

Including this

the school holidays on February 14, and the confinement of Crépy-en-Valois, on March 1, led to a sharp drop in the circulation of the virus;

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 16:48

Someone can give a better translation in a minute but in summary.

661 people connected to a lycée (essentially yr 11-13) were tested for antibodies to covid-19. The median age of the population was 37

25.9% of those 661 people tested positive. Of the people who were at the college most often (students, school staff) 41% were positive. Only 11% of close relatives (parents/siblings) tested positive.

At least 17% were asymptomatic but this is likely an underestimate because some of the symptoms reported are likely to have been from other respiratory viruses circulating at the time.

5.3% were hospitalised. And none died. Those hospitalised had an average age of 49 vs 18 for the non-hospitalised.

There are two symptoms that seem to strongly tie with having the virus. 84.7% of people who lost their sense of smell and 88.1% of people who lost sense of taste has the virus.

There’s a difference between smokers and non-smokers. 7.2% of smokers and 28% of non-smokers have had the virus. But smoking is responsible for 75000 deaths a year in France so they don’t suggest taking it up to protect yourself.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 16:51

That’s one of the paragraphs I’m not sure of the translation on Iam.

The other one i think says the risk of a college student infecting a parent is between 9 and 17% and infecting a sibling between 3 and 21%. But it goes on to talk about blood donors. I think it’s about how they came to those numbers based on an estimation of circulation in the community, but I’m not totally sure.

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 17:11

Thanks Rafals

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 17:18

No problem.

I’m still laughing at ‘Smoking cannot therefore be offered as a means of protection against the novel coronavirus’. I imagine the authors looking at the results and thinking FFS we’d better put a warning in. Grin

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 17:26

Agree!Grin

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 17:52

That’s not even the same study, so they have more than one piece of research showing smokers are less likely to be affected. They are both small studies, but it is interesting.

Piggywaspushed · 26/04/2020 18:02

That's interesting as one of the first things they assumed about why more men than women died in Italy and Wuhan was because they smoke more. And lower prevalence of smoking was touted early on as to why we would be less affected in the UK at one point ( when Boris was shaking hands).

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 18:14

Good point piggy,

Also interesting that the under 20s do transmit infection despite people saying they don't really.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 18:15

That’s what I thought piggy. Looking at an article in the French papers there’s a study in China showing something similar. 12% of covid patients were smokers compared to 28% of the general population.

www.lepoint.fr/sante/coronavirus-la-nicotine-protege-t-elle-les-fumeurs-22-04-2020-2372449_40.php

I think they’re suggesting that the nicotine stops the virus from attaching to the nicotine receptors and so prevents it propagating/replicating.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2020 18:23

There’s a downside that if you get it you are more likely to get a severe infection if you are a smoker.

WriteAndErase · 26/04/2020 18:32

I just want to pop in here and say a great big thank you to all you teachers.

I have nothing but praise for the way our kids school have feltwith this whole situation.

We have a child in year 1 and one in the nursery at the same school.

The head master has sent out emails every other day with positive messages in. Pointing people in the direction of work they can do and websites they can use but also saying don't worry about it if you can't do anything.

The year one teacher has recorded videos of herself reading the phonics and has uploaded a bunch of work we can try to do some of if we can. There's a subject for the term and ideas on how to work that subject into all the different parts of learning.
I really couldn't ask for more.

All the teachers are contactable via email and reply within 48 hours. Usually the same day.

Even the nursery have uploaded a subject for the term and ideas things to do with the 3 year old. The teacher has uploaded a video of her reading a story and a video of a little game once every week.

Keep up the work. Some of us see you and we are gratefulThanks

Piggywaspushed · 26/04/2020 18:39

That's lovely to hear. Thank you:)

lamplamplamo · 26/04/2020 18:54

Thank you write

Blackdog19 · 26/04/2020 19:09

Hi. I have one dc at secondary and one at primary. Secondary have been fantastic and uploaded work daily for all lessons and been really responsive with feedback. Primary have now set one piece of suggested work. That’s it, apart from list of websites. To be fair I don’t begrudge the teachers not having done much because I think they normally work hard and will have to work v hard when they all go back but am I underestimating what the primary teachers are likely to have been doing? School of 200, 8 teachers and approved 4/5 key worker children going in.

Blackdog19 · 26/04/2020 19:10

I’m not trying to have a go at teachers at all, more wondering if I’ve missed what they are likely to have been doing.

FrippEnos · 26/04/2020 19:13

Blackdog19
I’m not trying to have a go at teachers at all, more wondering if I’ve missed what they are likely to have been doing.

Yes you have

And a teacher support thread is an interesting choice to post this on.

TubereuseNordlys · 26/04/2020 19:14

Blackdog19

Why on earth would you choose this thread to put those posts? Hmm

Mistressiggi · 26/04/2020 19:16

Blackdog just drop an email to them saying you've finished the work and followed all the links, and ask for some more suggestions. Smile
All the emails from ds' school turned out to be going on his dad, which was pretty pointless Hmm

Blackdog19 · 26/04/2020 19:21

Because I am grateful for everything the secondary school have done. I’m not fussed with primary because I’m happy enough doing my own plans- there’s loads to be find online. This is a thread with lots of teachers on it. I wondered if there is likely to be lots going on in the background re primary but we just haven’t seen it yet. I don’t know what other primaries are doing 🤷‍♀️ I really am not having a go, I know teachers work ridiculously hard in usual times. And I’m sure they are now. And having to go in to work with key worker children can’t be pleasant, especially little ones without any concept of personal space.

Blackdog19 · 26/04/2020 19:26

And I’m only not fussed about the primary work as I hope I will have to home educate for a fairly short amount of time. I am under no illusion that I could teach as effectively or well as a proper teacher if this went on beyond the next month or two.

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