Why are primary and secondary school teachers paid the same if secondary school teachers have a degree and then do a PGCE?

[worried63xx]

Just a genuine question really, not meant to antagonise.
Don't secondary school teachers have to have better qualifications to get into teaching?

[Aragog]

QTS is not normally treated as a separate element for any of the routes into teaching. It's normally taught within the normal course curriculum and via the various work placements.

It is, however, a separate award which is normally incorporated into the studies. It is not awarded by the university or college.

On completion of the course you take, you are put forward to the Government body as recommended to be awarded QTS. The Teaching Regulation Agency (TRA) then decide whether to award or not. This is based on their knowledge of the course - it would be very unlikely that this was refused once the college or university has sent your details for recommendation.

[Cat0115]

Piggywaspushed I too have my face squashed on the glass ceiling. SLT all 30somethings now. I'm eyeballing 50. HoD but no further must be on a post it note on my back!

[Piggywaspushed]

Solidarity sister!

[DrMadelineMaxwell]

I'm primary. I was made head of key stage this year and another random lead title, then had to put my foot down to get the same tlr that another member of staff had while I languished on a tlr3. I won.
The only way for me to move now is dept and that would mean leaving a fab school with a short commute, a mostly nice catchment area and brilliant colleagues. I'm lucky that the SLT structure in primaries has tlr opportunities otherwise I'd just be stuck on ups3.