Do teachers get paid extra if they go away on a residential trip?

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I was just wondering.

Well, you're all amazing! I was wondering because my DD went on the exact same trip with school as with guides and it was cheaper with guides so thought extra must be for teachers. Not sure why then. Thank you for all your hard work

Hahahahaha!

No.

I think it's voluntary/part of the job, same way I didnt get paid or time off when I used to go on business trips twice a month and had to talk shop/socialise with colleagues from other offices when I'd much rather be home.

MrSlant
No ex-h went on a week long residential course and the children were so badly behaved he basically slept in a corridor for three nights to keep them in their rooms.

Yes, our school trips are like this. We tend to have 3 teachers and alternate nights so that 2 of us stay up half the night and are "on call" during the other's half and the 3rd gets to sleep. But we all share a room usually so the 3rd has to be a heavy sleeper for it to work! I'm a light sleeper so that means I basically don't sleep on school trips except for the odd 40 winks caught on a coach from x to y ... and everyone takes a photo of my snoring face . The last one we went on I also had the 'flu.

The school may be factoring in the cost of covering the teacher's absence into the trip price.

Nope.

Nope. And Dh's class is small so not many adults go, which basically means he ends up being awake for the entire trip..... 20 versions of "Mr Duck I feel sick/need a drink of water/miss my mum/can't sleep/fell out of bed/hit my head etc"

It is amazing what teachers are expected to do for free. I'm a nurse and definitely get a better deal with hours and pay - I'd never be expected to just stay at work for an extra 3 days with no breaks and no extra pay!

Guidess might get a discount as a charity, or perhaps they've been going every year for years, but no, I've never known a teacher be paid for going on a residential.

I was paid to go as a 'responsible adult' as an 18 year old student. I think I got £30 for the week

The guide leaders may well have paid for their own places, but teacher's places covered by the cost of the trip charged to pupils.

I'm about to go on a 5 day trip, lose a day of my weekend, and get nothing in return. I'm dreading it but have no choice.

Nope and it is bloody hard work too.

Like other email have said when I organised them I didn't get non teaching time to plan etc either

Wings It's not voluntary in my school, we all do at least one residential per year (for 5 or 6 nights). The only person I've known not go in 5 years is someone whose mother was dying, and she had to take unpaid leave. Her mother died while we were on the trip. It's not written in our contracts but if we didn't go we'd have to take unpaid leave as all of the students go on a trip so there is no one left in school to teach, iyswim.

Most if not all TLRs also seem to include going on other residentials or weekend long activities with the students as and when needed (at least once a year), e.g. all HODs have to offer at least one residential enrichment trip, usually over a bank holiday weekend so as not to miss school time.

It was also not voluntary in my previous school - but everyone had a choice between ski trip or summer activities week.

No and if we go away on a day trip or similar and don't get back till 6 or later we don't get paid extra either.

No and it's exhausting. You need the whole weekend just to recover after. Plus when I went on a residential that wasn't for my class I still had to plan and leave work for the cover teacher to do with my class while I was away. This was as well as helping plan and organise the residential trip.

NO

And to the poster who said it's like they don't get paid for their business trips I do suspect it's likely they had better accommodation and nicer meals provided that didn't involve supervising dozens of children at the same time.

No, but we are able to claim back meals, taxis etc in my place.

The school may be factoring in the cost of covering the teacher's absence into the trip price.

No - they aren't allowed and most places offer X places free for adults - so the centres may increase their costs accordingly

HAHAHAHAHA.
No, we don't.
And if some parents still honestly think that we do get paid extra, that explains why some of them call them 'jollies'.

ToDuk
And to the poster who said it's like they don't get paid for their business trips I do suspect it's likely they had better accommodation and nicer meals provided that didn't involve supervising dozens of children at the same time.
And to sleep at night.
And not have parents of 17 year old boys ringing regularly to ask for a breakdown of what he'd eaten and when he'd pooed.

@Astro55 I know of schools that definitely factor in the cost of cover

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!

No.

But that made me laugh. We have three days off timetable every July and have taken a group of kids on a two night residential. Never had any problems but it's tiring. And even more galling when you get back to hear that the staff in school were given "personal planning sessions" - so essentially got an afternoon or day off where they weren't allocated anything. We weren't given this on our return either.

Par for the course sadly.

same way I didn't get paid or time off when I used to go on business trips twice a month and had to talk shop/socialise with colleagues from other offices when I'd much rather be home

Just the same. If your colleagues are all children you have to look after, you aren't allowed to sleep and there's absolutely no time for yourself.

Guides get trips at a much cheaper price than schools as they are a charity.

I have quite enjoyed going on residential abroad, has given me a chance to go to some interesting places - we are never short of volunteers at the moment - we tend to have more staff wanting to go than available places

Maybe with the guides they take some of the weekly subs and put that towards- subs that schools don't get.