livid with my child's school!!!

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So for over a month now my oldest child who is 8 years old and usually loves school and refuses to stay home sick has been sent home nearly everyday for vomiting. We have taken him to several doctors... No one knows what is going on with him.... He recently told the doctor he poops blood now and then, so they did a fecal smear test ( if you have had one of these you know it's painful and no child would continue to be sick if they were faking after that)
He also told us his stomach " burns " a lot.. He says he tells his teacher and she tells him he is lying and to sit back down... We have an appointment tomorrow and he will be checked for ulcers ( I'm sure that's what it is) but I'm pissed because this stupid woman could t even be bothered to inform me that my child was making this complaint.... I am currently trying to get in touch with her to ask her myself if he is complaining of a burning sensation yet she won't return my phone calls or emails.... She could have written a note informing me of this. But no... She just tells him he is faking... Now my son hates going to school because his teacher calls him a liar, and refuses to call on him when he is trying to be a good student and raise his hand to answer a question.... I am ready to just home school him!!!

Wrt your child not fitting in with other children -- the ball is in your court here when it comes to awareness of this problem. Your child did not approach you about his unhappiness. Perhaps you feel bad about this and perhaps you choose to direct anger at the school instead of asking why your child does not confide in you?

You are expecting that the teacher should have found out about the burning sensation you knew about it and you described cries of pain he makes you want her to have the same 20/20 hindsight that you now have about the burning, which you knew about, because he told you. But you spoke to the teacher about faking.

You are asking that the teacher have the same 20/20 hindsight that you now have about the burning, which you knew about, because he told you and that is why you asked the teacher. But you spoke to the teacher about faking.

He says it is during school but I also need to know how often this is happening. And if it is REALLY happening. I am not their so in order to get the entire story I ask him, and then speak with the teacher.
How is the teacher to know if he is faking or if it is real? You are portraying your child as a liar here and to the school, then turning around and saying he is so terrified of doctors he would never lie, but it's all very confused.

You complain about the teacher being nothing more than a babysitter and yet you ask that the teacher do your job. Your son tells nobody about things that are bothering him. Or possibly he is faking. He doesn't talk about blood in his poop, about feeling left out and bullied, or about burning sensations. You really need to get to the bottom of this inability to reach out to his parents, instead of congratulating yourself on raising 'independent' children.

I am amazed you are dictating on your phone about all your frustrations and your anger ('venting'), about the school, the teacher, the doctors, the hospitals, all the systems that annoy you so much -- in the presence of a child who suffers from anxiety.

hear hear Mathanxiety, but I hope you're ready for the roasting you're now going to receive for that...

As I said before... at the centre of this is a little boy who is not getting the care he NEEDS. From YOU.

Right now, instead of flailing about being angry at teachers, education systems, medics, 'bullies', the military (except they seem to be able to do no wrong), you need to be having a long hard introspective look at YOU.

Children with the greatest confidence - it doesn't come from being forced to be independent. Neglected children are forced to be independent. Confidence comes from absolute certainty that your primary care giver has got your back, and is there, approachable, ready to support and help navigate the tricky spots of life. Hence the shy child can become a confident adult with the right care, or a brash and confident child can become withdrawn and anxious with the wrong care.

Yes, some children are naturally more anxious than others, and this can result in physical manifestations (at the risk of repeating myself: I know, I have one, it's a tough nut to parent), but these children need MORE love, more support, more fundamental knowing that Mum is available - emotionally.

Independence comes precisely because of being able to be secure in dependence. Children are naturally dependent, and allowing them to be so means they grow in to confident independent adults.

THAT'S what you need to be focussing on right now: getting your boy back to a place where he feels safe, can share information with you, can trust you and then others. Where he can learn to trust himself again.

I sincerely hope you use your home-schooling time with him to nurture this in him, not the academics that are nice to boast about. For bright children, academics can be advanced endlessly (again I know, and I have in fact spent some years begging teachers NOT to do this), but to what purpose if the building blocks of love and security aren't there? One day the tower of bricks will come tumbling down. In my experience, the very highest academically achieving children are often the most anxious. There are so many reasons for this, but knowing it is half the battle. Yes you could have him jumping through endless academic hoops, but it's to no purpose. He's a boy, feed his natural enthusiasm and curiosity whilst making love, nurture and re-building his confidence the biggest goal.

And let him know you've got his back and that he doesn't need to be independent from you, yet.

Teachers are not nurses and they have 29 other children to look after I'm afraid. It sounds like you are sorting it, so why have a vendetta against the teacher. I'm surprised you have her email and number .

Op I do hope things with your son sort them selves out.

We have a friend who had similar symptoms. He was finally diagnosed three years ago with social anxiety and Ibs. And put in a special diet. He refuses to eat said special diet and as such is now more anxious about going out in case he throws up. He's 30 something like us. So I hope that whatever is the root cause of your ds' anxiety is discovered and dealt with quickly.

I do agree that the op's description of treatment her son has recieved does sound alarming. But I had heard from a friend who's dh is US military that things are done a bit differently. As far as I am aware if you are military personnel or affiliated as such you get priority treatment at a military hospital. And In Her experience the staff there (at the facility where she gave birth anyway) while trained properly in medicine like civilian medics were tougher. She said that while medical facilities and care was excellent bedside manner needed work.

There's bedside manner and there's doing things which are clinically nonsensical.

Also, one minute the OP's son has severe heavy bleeding, the next it's red food dye that he saw in his stools.

Except that red food dye wouldn't be visible by itself in a stool in the manner that fresh blood is, it would be mixed into the stool.

And the excess red food dye would colour the stools in a different colour then blood further up the large intestine would.

One question I have to ask, is it normal for a child with such high levels of anxiety that they are vomiting almost every day for a month, to beg to go to school and lie so they can go, when being in school is the actual cause of the anxiety.

Would a child of 8 not normally be reluctant to go to school under these circumstances and be finding excuses as to why they can't/shouldn't go?

Mumtryingherbest- your right that it is unusual for a child to " hide " their anxiety and not out right refuse to go, in some cases where a child is afraid to disappoint their parent ( this is actually hard wired into us at a young age not to do) they may just do as they are told and hide the fear, or anxiety, or even pretend it isn't happening. ( just as many girls who start there period and don't know what it is, very early will panic and hide all evidence in fear it may upset there parents even though the girl didn't do any thing wrong )
It took a month for him to tell us about the first boy bullying him, threatening to do physical harm and when ask why he wouldn't tell us his reasoning for it was that he would be seen as weak for being afraid of the boy, and for allowing the boy to scare him: he told my mother " mom is tough she isn't scared of anything she beat up bad guys at the prison and she wasn't scared I can't be either "
I have since then explained that even though I was scared every single time I went to work as a correctional officer it was my job and I couldn't let it take over. That just because I didn't show my fear doesn't mean it wasn't there. He also thinks I am BIG, I am not lol I am 5 foot nothing 120 pounds, but at the same time he has seen me take down a full grown man in order to protect him and run out side of our home dodging bullets to save 2 friends- he has this fairytale out look on me that nothing scares me, and while I did what I had to do to save lives as a law enforcement officer I was always scared.... He has expressed all of this to us and how I may be disappointed if he isn't brave , and tough like me---- he doesn't understand I was always scared....

Thisismypassword- his teacher doesn't have 29 students. Our student teacher ratio is only 17:1 at this school because it is only for people living in this housing community ( neiborhood) he only has about 15/17 students in his class, a couple have recently moved due to being military and PCS season is upon us lol
We all have the teachers email and phone number to the class-

Ememem84-- since the issues only began since he started at this school ( we moved during the school year) and puking has stopped since he is no longer at the school we are sure the anxiety has something to do with this one school. I am going to be taking him to a behavioral therapist and homeschooling him for a while, our next station is Japan and if he wants he can try school once we get there. Since it will be a DOD school and I know from experience that they do not tolerate any form of bullying in those schools. And teachers are held to a much higher standard than civilian schools.

A student:teacher ratio of 17:1 does not mean there are 17 in a class.

Ginandjag- I have his class roster - how many and students names from Valentine's Day ( they have to give every child a valentines card) that is a common practice here to have that for birthday invites and such as well as Valentine's Day cards and other events in the class- he didn't even have 20 kids in his class.

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As you are adamant that you are right and that the school is wrong there is no real point in discussing this.

I do however wish you and your DS all the best.

mom is tough she isn't scared of anything she beat up bad guys at the prison and she wasn't scared I can't be either " I have since then explained that even though I was scared every single time I went to work as a correctional officer it was my job and I couldn't let it take over. That just because I didn't show my fear doesn't mean it wasn't there. He also thinks I am BIG, I am not lol I am 5 foot nothing 120 pounds, but at the same time he has seen me take down a full grown man in order to protect him and run out side of our home dodging bullets to save 2 friends

And after all of that -- we are sure the anxiety has something to do with this one school.

Please get your son into counselling. He urgently needs someone he can trust to talk with about the terror he has been feeling. He must find his world absolutely terrifying.

It is not good enough to move environments and hope that the coccoon of a foreign posting, base life, and a DoD school environment will do the trick here. Your son and your family have not coped in a world where children and parents are supposed to communicate with each other. It is not a world where you can pull rank like your father did when you had the run in with the hospital. It is a world full of gray, not black and white and protocol as far as the eye can see.

This world is also known as the normal world. You might call it the civilian world, since you are military. Unless you want your son to have no other place where he feels safe and can cope other than the military bubble, you need to help him deal with environments that are not structured and hierarchical. It strikes me that you might not find much wrong with the prospect of life in the military system for your son, but I urge you to equip him with the sort of coping tools he needs in order to be able to choose. So please find him some counselling outside of the military system.

I am not disparaging the system just for the sake of it or without any concept of the culture and what it can do to people. I am not military myself but my father and grandfather were (British Army and RAF). My DS (here in the US) has a close friend who is fourth generation Army, and has just signed up himself. Another close friend will be joining the Navy in a couple of months. It is not a career to just drift into. It is a world of its own and it makes you different from other people and not necessarily in a healthy way.

Class sizes can be quite small in US schools and all parents have a class roster plus phone numbers and addresses for all the children, plus phone and e-mail contact info for the teacher and possibly the school board and principal, vice principal, etc.

In a really good school district, parents are expected to be doing the heavy lifting regarding communication with their children. There is an assumption that the school will teach and the parents will parent. The army is much more of a 'parenting' institution in many ways.

Mathanxiety- we are seeking counseling threw a behavioral therapist. ( referred off base to a civilian practice )
He actually hasn't always been a military dependent. We lived in the civilian world until he was 6 and I married my husband. But with my family being pretty much nothing but military ( men join up, women go to college ) he prefers the military structure and on more than one occasion has ask to go to a military live in academy ( hell no my baby ain't going to live away from me !! Is my thought)
He wants to go to west point college after high school and all ready has a full ride scholarship threw his biological father ( died when he was a baby and was military )
Since this is the only school he has ever had an issue at ( he has been to 4 schools, I know it's a lot for his age but I was a single mom and moved for work a few times) we figured it best to remove him from this school until another option arises. I wish I could afford the Christian academy that we have near by, but 2,000 per child per semester is more than I can afford. They have an amazing science program and actually have a biology class for his age on the beach ! But like I said we are unable to afford that at this moment.
But we are taking him to counseling. That way we can definitely get to the bottom of this issue. His behavior has changed since he isn't at the school, he isn't quite as angry, and frustrated. He seems happier and back to the kid I knew before he started at this school. He is excited to start his homeschooling studies, once I told him he could move at his own pace he got very excited ( he hates going over the same thing repeatedly )... We will continue to work with him, but no vomiting episodes since he was last in school ....

(West Point (like all the other service academies) is free to everyone accepted. You don't get full ride scholarships through family connections. You get a stipend while you are a cadet, and out of that you are expected to pay for uniforms and books, etc. But tuition, room and board are free. There are no scholarships except for further degrees.)

Your child's extreme anxiety related to doctors should show you that the anxiety is not just related to this one school. (It really is not normal for an 8 year old to behave as your DS does in medical settings). Exposure to an incident where he saw his own parent 'take down a full grown man in order to protect him and run out side of our home dodging bullets to save 2 friends' could very easily have caused PTSD. So could prolonged and unaddressed fear about your safety thanks to hearing details about your job as a corrections officer. He should not have heard any details about your job in a prison. He is too young for exposure to that aspect of life. I have friends who are prison doctors and they were very careful about how much information their children were exposed to about their daily work.

You are very immersed in military culture even though your lives were in the civilian sphere until your DS was 6, and therefore you may not see just how different your assumptions and attitudes are from civilian attitudes. Some of military culture is not a healthy model for children.

In addition, thanks to your career, you are clearly trained to respond to emergencies with a physical response (paramedic/law enforcement) and to deal with situations that are potentially volatile (in prison for instance) by means of tactics like verbal judo and actually tackling violent criminals.

Your preferred response to the school (in your head) is to grab the teacher by the hair. Your response to your child saying he would like to go to military school is 'Hell no!' -- you go into mama bear mode at home as well as at work, in other words. When things frustrate you or upset you, you have a physical or man-the-barricades response. If DS opens up more in future, try to cast your training and maybe your temperament aside and practice listening between the lines, so to speak. Ask him what would be good about military school. Ask him how military school might be different from regular school. Speak with a curious tone of voice, not accusing or deadly serious.

I understand it was unavoidable, but multiple moves and four schools from age 4 or 5 is not great either. And you are all off to Japan next year... Yes, military children move a lot (I have an exSIL who was all over the world by the time she was 10 and has no place she considers 'home') but your child seems to have had a lot of changes, and this can lead to deep-seated insecurity. There is nothing you can do about that, but there is much that you can do to try to understand how all of that may have affected him. Does he crave the school environment because it offers stability, predictability, or routine? Is that why he might like to go to a military academy? Or to West Point? I don't think a behavioral therapist is all he needs, though I can see how retraining his response system and habits of mind might be helpful.

Your DS has the impression that you are a tough cookie: his reasoning for it was that he would be seen as weak for being afraid of the boy, and for allowing the boy to scare him: he told my mother " mom is tough she isn't scared of anything she beat up bad guys at the prison and she wasn't scared I can't be either" Your 'resting personality' and the way you respond to situations that arise are perhaps a reflection of your training to demonstrate 'tough' and 'in charge' posturing. But that approach won't work to get a child to open up. He is already afraid of seeming weak. You need to drop the tough gal act when you are dealing with him, and seek ways to assure him that showing vulnerability and acknowledging feelings of weakness and smallness and reaching out to others are healthy ways of dealing with life's challenges -- you don't always have to go into superhero mode; life is far too subtle for that response anyway. It's fine for certain types of work. Not for home.

I think he needs a huge amount of reassurance that he can talk about feelings, and in order to accomplish that you are going to have to show him an alternative to going ballistic with representatives of 'systems' that you blame for problems (try not to blame at all), or venting in his presence. He shouldn't be living in a mental world where he feels he has to protect himself with thoughts of a superwoman mom, or where he has to worry in silence about mom in prison with hundreds of bad guys.

You need to look at the video games he plays too, and try to ease him away from them. 8 is too young for anything more complex than Oregon Trail (an old quest-style game) and other children's material. If he is playing games with any sort of violence then that needs to stop at once. If you are homeschooling him then you are ideally placed to introduce him to books and maybe even movies where characters express a wide range of emotions and responses and communicate in a healthy way, not just shooting lasers at each other, etc.

MathAnxiety- the video games he plays are games such as mine craft ( he builds intricate buildings complete with automatic doors and such , he doesn't play in survival mode. Only in creative, he seems to enjoy the more engineering side of the game. ) my husband plays this game with him and they challenge each other to build new crazy buildings or elevators. I even play it ( it's kind of fun lmao ) we don't allow him to play the real life style violent games like modern warfare ( I can't stand to see kids playing that) the only violence in any of his games is the one game FABLE, in that game you get to decide who you will be, the hero or the villain and every decision you make impacts the story line to some degree.
He reads a wide variety of books, but always goes back to any book about dinosaurs ( kid is crazy about real paleontology books)
This is probably one of the reasons he finds it hard to make friends with children his own age. He has had friends before but they were usually in his gifted and talented classes ( which this school does not offer).
He has explained to us why he wants to join the military, and I have never had an issue with that as my family has a very long history of war hero's. We are currently on our 4th generation of special forces and my oldest is convinced he will one day be the 5th gen but he will be the officer who calls the shots lol. ( at least he doesn't want to be a grunt lol)
The only reason he wants military school that he is told us of is that he thinks it will be fun lol I don't think he yet grasps the amount of physical work it would require since they do make them participate in PT.
like I said though until this school he has always been his normal self- I've never been the most emotional person , but I've never been a hard a** on him, and he never had problems talking with me before this school. He has always talked to me before these recent issues. And if he didn't want to talk to me he would have talked to his grandmother ( she lives around the corner they are military as well) yet he wouldn't even tell her about these issues until after he had finally told me.
We have always told war stories around the kids, my dad gets to telling them and My boys dive right on in and listen as close as possible.... We are very proud of our military past and future in our family, any my oldest is right on the ban wagon with it. He prefers military life over civilian life. ( we talked about it before I married my husband) He also Knows his father died a war hero, and we let him keep that as something to hold onto. But like most little boys they want to be soldiers, cops, something to do with guns lol all my brothers did at that age lol

I get that, very loud and clear (that you are a proud military family). I am sure your son gets that too.

Is it possible your son only tells you what he thinks you want to hear?

I am not talking about being a hardass, drill sergeant, etc. I am asking if you are projecting to him that desirable character traits are toughness, endurance, 'independence' -- you say you are raising him to be 'independent' but does that mean 'the strong, silent type' who do not talk about feelings of being weak or powerless? Or does that mean someone who makes his own bed in the morning? I understood from your response to me on this topic that you meant children who don't approach parents to confide in them.

A lot of little boys want to be firemen, cops, heroes of some kind. But your son is 8. By that age my DS had moved on a bit. He was going to be a vet as far as I recall. He became obsessed with guns and weapons and protection for a while after our house was burgled. It took a lot of putting clues together and many 'casual conversations' that were really fishing exercises to understand how much that had affected him, and a lot of reassurance and help to get him past that. Your son has had more to cope with as far as I can gather. He has a dead war hero father to live up to as well. That is a lot of trauma and a lot of pressure.

I would try hard to get to the bottom of his fascination with the military. Does he believe he would be safe in a heavily armed environment? Is his focus on the military life and military school a way to express in an acceptable way that he feels unsafe? He may not be able to talk directly about feeling weak or powerless. But a child who has allergy shiners, who is small and bookish and a bit of a nerd and also a pacifist who dreams of being an officer in special forces has something going on that he cannot express to you for some reason.

(he is a pacifist and doesn't want them to get into trouble because he thinks that will only make them angrier, like I've said he is a bit on the wimpy side. And fears other kids will hurt him due to him being much smaller.

Look, you need to tone down the acceptable violence. Your son saw your friends being shot at and you RUNNING INTO BULLETS to protect them. That is terrifying

Also, don't get me wrong, I love Fable. All three of the main games, love 'em to pieces. You do realise those games are rated M (I just checked on my shelf Fable 2 is age 15 rated and Fable 3 is 16 rated), he's 8, why is he playing a game rated for someone twice his age?

I'm glad he's getting some help, and I really do hope that the move to Japan is a good one. Hopefully you can get off base and explore this new and interesting culture with him. Go and see Japanese dinosaurs in the museum, it'll be nice to see some different species.

Of all the things you have listed on here-and you pick one teacher as the cause of his anxiety??

Poor little boy.

Betrand - poor little imaginary boy, there fixed it for you.

Not sure how there can be 4 generations of one family in US Special Forces, when they weren't established until 1952.

I do hope so.

Knew it

I hope so too.

Mathanxiety- keep in mind he has never been the " normal " kid. At 2 he didn't say " I'm mad at you" he simply said " I'm cross with you" ( in quite an adorable voice: we still don't know exactly where he got that but think is may have been Thomas the train) He never threw fits in front of people, he at 2-3 years old would calmly walk into his room and throw his fit and come back out when he was done. He knew fits are unacceptable and if you need to lash out you better go away from people to do it ( we don't allow public fits from any of the children we tell even our 4 year old " if your gonna be like that do it in your room and come see me when you are ready to talk")
He is just his own person lol and to really understand him you have to be around him constantly- until placing him in the school he never really had behavioral problems either, maybe the occasional slip up but nothing extreme; and definitely not these break downs he has recently had ( which have stopped since removing him from the school) he is no where near as frustrated ( he would be in a pissy mood the moment he would get home but swear everything at school was fine)
With him if you question him straight on you won't get anywhere we literally had to dance around the issue to get him to talk about it. I can understand his frustration with the teacher. I was finally able to get some information from her this morning when I took him to un enroll him from school. ( it was during her classes lunch ) She openly admitted to not calling on him when they took turns reading aloud because she feared his advancement and not struggling to read would negatively effect the other children, ( make them feel inferior ) she also admitted that she has stopped calling on him to answer questions because he always knows the answer , or he is asking too many questions about the subject and if she doesn't know the answer he asks her to look it up ( he does not handle " I don't know " as a response or answer which I explained to her in a letter when he first started her class. Her being a fairly new teacher I am sure she meant good but did not understand the reproductions it would have. ( you can't just ignore a child in your class like that)
I was fairly upset when she admitted to this behavior as if nothing were wrong with it. But I held my composure while kindly informing her that this behavior did not help with the anxiety of not fitting in well at school and has made him feel un welcomed. She should really understand that when you are working with young children there perception of mean is not the same and even if you aren't actually being " mean" on purpose they can still take it that way.

But like I said, before this school he was fine. He talked to me about everything at his last school ( literally could not get him to shut up as much as I loved him being happy sometimes it was just too much lol) He has no real issues about his fathers death, he never knew him. He sees it as a matter of fact. We talk about his father quite often. Since he never knew him he never really had a bond to him, until I married my husband I always told him " I'll share my daddy with you" and I did lol my dad was his father figure for years and is still somewhat of a father figure ( papaw is God to this kid lol )
His behavioral issues have cleared up since being away from the school and getting one on one time studying with me- he loved the assessment exam he took this morning I wanted to see what areas he knew and such. But he passed the end of year exam for first grade with flying colors! He even said " mom it's a test you can't help " lmao I had to walk away while he did it lol
He also went on base with me for our overseas screening stuff and got to speak with a man about why he flew a confederate flag on his truck with our American flag. ( he loved the interaction and willingness of the man to answer the questions he had )
This is one reason I prefer the military life, most of the people on base are quite happy with how he is , and how he asks them questions about the uniforms, flags, and why we are not allowed to move during colors ( sound off of music moment of silence daily)
We never had these issues before from hi and they seem to be disappearing rather quickly- he also had never been bullied prior to this school. ( I really wanted to spank that one evil little child that was threatening him, he needed it and so did his parents because that child learned it somewhere)
We will still be taking him to see the behavioral therapist at least for an evaluation, to ensure everything is ok in that head of his.... Smart kids think too dam much, and it's hard to tell what all is going on in that brain of his lol.

Seryph- that happened years ago when he was 4. It was not acceptable. But was also out of my control. We lived in the nations of Nashville tn at the time. You even hear gun shots on Christmas in that area. We were only in that area for a year before I got out of the lease and moved to a trailer in the country. ( I hate the inner city ) that area of Nashville is crawling with thugs. He only witnessed violence such as the gun shots once, and once a man tried to mug me, and once the idiot father of my second son thought he would be stupid while drunk. That was only one year. The most of his life he hasn't dealt with violence unless it's how to survive a slender man attack in minecraft or to take on the evil villain of fable. Any time the people fired off shots and he heard them we just told him it was like the army out at the range ( we lived close enough to the range at one point to feel the percussion from the weapons) or someone else practicing lol but somethings are just out of your control, and kids will see something now and then. Btw he didn't see much when I went running out for the two girls; he got yanked from his bed and hidden in the closet with his brother behind a bomb/bullet proof gun case my dad had given me. We didn't have time to tell him what had happened until after the thugs were gone- yes her heard the shots but; he also seen the two girls after and seen they were ok. He also witnessed courage that night---- I could have sat inside and just called the police on duty- but since my friends were in execution style on the ground I'm sure they wouldn't be here now had we not acted the way we did ( it turned out being a gang initiation and when the boys where caught they admitted the plan was to kill the girls and be " true bloods" ) Right after that we left that area, and so did many people. You can't always control if your child will see violence, but you can control how you react and if they will see you cower in fear, or stand up and do the right thing no matter what. He is quite excited about Japan, we refuse to be those people who stay on base the entire three years. ( I couldn't handle that)... He is extremely excited about the fishing ( we fish all summer and crab too) he is excited to see a new country and take in the culture. He is showing us what is fun nearby the base to check out lol he already had a list of places to visit, shrines and such... And rivers you can find giant salamanders. Fable is the only m rated game he plays. I'm pretty sure mine craft is everyone rated, but I'm not at home right now to double check. We are talking about the child who knows the illuminati symbols and who the illuminati are theoretically suppose to be. Regular little kid games would really be a slap in the face to him lmao he isn't going to play finding Nemo and be entertained. That would piss him off lmao...

Ipittythepontipines---- when people join at 17 and stay in until they are forced out it does in fact happen- my great grandfather, my grandfather, my father , my brother... My son is not " imaginary " in the least. .... My father and brother both served together in separate units my father is still in btw. And is almost 50 just like my grandfather they will have to force him out... I wish these issues were imaginary !!! Hell I wish like hell this boy had no issues at school... Maybe if he were imaginary I would have been able to take that scholarship offer lmfao but hey if that makes you feel better, go for it.

Sorry not imaginary guys lmfao

when people join at 17 and stay in until they are forced out it does in fact happen- my great grandfather, my grandfather, my father , my brother

You don't join Special Forces at 17 as a fresh recruit. You don't have people near retirement age knocking about in Special Forces either.

It's bad enough all the lies you've told about your son's medical treatment without all this Walt nonsense as well.

Enough.