Ham pr disasters 61! ….enough is enough…is enough…we can’t go on!…no more tears! ……

[jeffgoldblum]

It’s the bodyguards fault was a new revelation!
who’s fault will it be next?
answers on a postcard please…….

She could have been trying to keep Tommy J at bay with promises of a passive pay out with a book once Tom snr passes... but as said above Tom snr is living too long for their liking & Tommy J wants his piece of flesh early..

Samantha's next move will be interesting

It'll be constant unfortunately. Then Hamlets bleating about exclusion when they are older. But I predict Archie Markle and his uncle Tom will have their own channel from some trailer in US!

It's like there's been a fecking D-Notice put out on her for a decade. The Guardian needs to put one of its proper investigative journalists like Lanre Bakare on the trail.

Tom Snr may be a lot of unmentionable things but he paid for Meghan to have a very expensive Catholic education. Like everything private in America education is extremely expensive

I don’t see it like that . So many people talk about M dumping H but what is she without him ? Hopefully the RF learned their lesson with Fergie and ensure that M loses her title if she walks .
And if/ when she walks what then ?
She is heading towards 50 and has a dreadful reputation so I cannot imagine any billionaire being interested .
Yes she could write a book or do some interviews but who would believe a word she writes ?
As ever is a flop and I have no idea whether if not she is still flogging clothes.
In my opinion , it will be H who tries to extricate himself in a desperate attempt to get back into the RF .
I do feel for those DC especially as they have moved house yet again .
Anyway , I am off to do some public service ( shift in charity shop) so will catch up later . No doubt we will be on the next thread !!

I've been watching quite a bit of coverage of the King & Queen in the Caribbean during the past few days

It seems to have been quite a relentless timetable of events particularly for KC who arrived several days before QC

I've been wondering what it would have been like if H&M had remained within the RF. They were given a Commonwealth role by HMQEII which I think was to do with young people. So they could have been out there attending the youth rallies which would have been far more appropriate than KC attending them and he could have either had a rest or done more appropriate events.

That's just one aspect of what they could have done with the roles QE gave them. If H&M had achieved anything during the past few years I wouldn't feel like that but all I feel is that it's so sad, such a waste.

Or worse "George adoes Lili" and "Charlotte has taken Archie under her wing". It is adjacentcy MM really needs ( although snubs are useful too.)

I try and read all the posts on these threads but its fast moving!! I cant believe how trashy her family is! Has there been any other family in the public eye thats had this much drama ? and I refer to H&M and her family. Its so relentless!

Plus, no doubt, endless yammering about his mental 'elf - even hints about suicidal ideation - which would probably fly with some

Can you imagine giving up that amazing opportunity? Most people could only dream of such privilege.

It's a risk for Charles so I'm not sure. Originally they were offered a large apartment at Buckingham Palace. But HAM demanded a Windsor property because they wanted proximity to W&C

But now KC has to consider the potential reputational risks of offering them a Royal or personal property

• will Meghan use it to flog tacky As Ever products as she did with the Wace property? - Don't know if it accurate but I have read that Wace thought he was lending a property to a very private family with security concerns (his property is hard to search and as a billionaire with teenage kids Wace must have his own concerns) - it said was very unhappy that M used clearly identifiable features of his house for influencer style photo shoots of products and her kids.
• risks that Harry will use a property as backdrop for ranting against the judiciary, RAVEC, pr press etc. Or that he would spout off about international affairs and contradict government property.
• risks that Meghan will give "big payday" interviews about her dad, the kids etc

Yes.. I think William got her looks and caring nature, Harry got her loose cannon. lack of brains, and caring nature. I think he probably is good with kids. Good job really as his wife seems not to be. She never had a blueprint for being a good parent, did she. Harry did at least.

Where is the evidence H is good with kids? I see that bandied about a lot.

Without doubt they'll still have more money than most of us, William, but almost certainly not enough for the life they aspire to

And while Meghan may see only the $$$$ I'm not convinced it's really about the money per se for Harry ... more the fact he's no longer got people spinning him into something he never was and sweeping up the results of his behaviour

Perhaps KC could offer them the B&B he owns in Romania! 😉

No internet - which would be a relief for the rest of us 😂

Judging by her facial expression at the wedding, I suspect the late Queen had more information about Markle and her family than we knew and had already foreseen the damage they would go on to wreak.

Reading along and keeping my eye on the ball!
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I'm not sure about Meg leaving H in UK. I'm not sure what her latest "keeping her father's secret " damage has done to her reputation in the US

I've always thought that Harry's "love of Africa" was a bit nebulous - a bit "White saviour" with him rushing in to save elephants, speeding past the locals in SUV motorcades to visit Sentebale projects (which caused bad feeling) and insisting that Africa Parks employed staff protect that wildlife rather than employing local people... that resulted in the abuse/rape allegations.

I think he liked the Spencer cousins' lifestyle when they lived in South Africa - large compounds with armed guards and trips with those really posh tour companies to go camping or on safari.

I never said there is evidence ..
Is evidence really a thing on this thread anyway ; ).
I said I think he probably is good with kids as he had a blue print from his parent (mum).

Not sure that really follows?

It's difficult to know whether he is, or whether he got a "blueprint" from Diana. He may have got ideas from seeing film of her interactions, perhaps?

Ok! 😃

I don't think Diana was the super mom Harry and others try to trundle out. She spoke to William about her various boyfriends and broken heart. Depended on him emotionally. Was away from them quite a lot. I would imagine the reality very much differs from H's ridiculous narrative about her

No no no- human attachment theory starts from birth. He would have known he was loved and looked after from the beginning. Many imprints are formed in the first few months. The first years of life are extremely important. And he had 11 with his mum, some fcked up of course. But he always had her.