Ham pr disasters 61! ….enough is enough…is enough…we can’t go on!…no more tears! ……

[jeffgoldblum]

It’s the bodyguards fault was a new revelation!
who’s fault will it be next?
answers on a postcard please…….

And Meghan doesn’t have a clue about money either.

When you see her family background; she will have been brought up thinking as soon as you get some money, you spend it. That’s what she did on Suits. Remember she had one of those “giving away all my Zara clothes parties” at that time. (I’d never heard of that but apparently it’s a thing in some US circles to signal you’ve moved up in the world.) Ironic really when you think POW sometimes wears Zara.

She spent all/most of her Suits money on agents and PR to get the next big thing. I’ve always doubted that she brought much money to the table however much the press described her as a millionaire Hollywood actress.

They've spent a lot of money on staff since they left RF. That’s real cash out the door and not the sort of thing you can blag off a rich friend.

Navigating work, household, kids, etc is stressful enough for mere mortals. Both H&M have shown they are not very capable people. Even with staff, they struggle. Meg has spoken out how stressful the school run is (apparently H did this in Cali) so another lie

Apparently H is the more hands on parent (god forbid). I think a settlement will involve H and hamlets in UK. Her in the US (that seems to be out of bounds for her at the minute though). A lot of talk around H back in a RF role post divorce but he'll have hamlets so will probably want a role for them

People say that they have money but I doubt it. They will have spent millions keeping up with that lifestyle. They didn’t get €100m from Netflix to spend on clothes. They will have had to pay all the production and staffing costs out of the €100m, the As Ever business will be chomping through the €€, their own staffing and security costs will be considerable. Any money they do have is being spent on £4000 trousers that don’t fit.

I wonder how much the MIGS were involved in MM early press. Her career was massively exaggerated, the press was very kind in general and heaps of dodgy stuff from her past seems to have been buried, exspunged or ignored.

I don't believe there is any way the Hamlets will have a role.

And H can't have it both ways ~ he left the RF when he already had a child so presumably didn't want a role for Archie at that point.

I feel very sorry for the Hamlets - their parents notoriety will follow them everywhere they go and I think they'll struggle to find a place in society in the way that Princess Anne's and Prince Edward's children have done

I don't think she could've sent the trousers back either, the state all that trailing white fabric must've been in after dragging up and down the London street...

Does anyone actually believe they have a property in Portugal ? I always assumed it was some sort of marketing deal with Jack Brooksbank .

I think because they were clear to the press when they returned that they didn't want their address or their children's school published.

Rebecca English said on Palace Confidential back in August that they, and most reporters, knew both the address and the school but wouldn't be publishing it for that reason.
Details were being discussed by online commentators that were never mentioned by legacy media.

I dont hate you 😆. I just decided 6.99 a month over one year could be better spent. I seem to recall paying 99p at one stage and I’ve no idea when it became 6.99.

Considering the gossip of the last few years, it's very likely HaM have not covered themselves in glory vis à vis the staff, hence being shunted into smaller accommodation that presumably is cleaned once every few days but doesn't expose the majority of staff to their tongue lashings.
It's not just the Queen that doesn't like her staff being spoken to rudely.

I think MM thought Archie's future prospects at that point were akin to that of Baron Trump meets Hollywood royalty offspring.

Yes , and neither of her parents could manage money and went bankrupt.

Unfortunately, I think he’s still cuntstruck ; in too deep to see clearly.

There are two versions of the Noelle Rasmussen 'Daily Mail' piece. In one, Loveless asked her to send the letter to Meghan's security team. In another, Loveless asked her to send it to Meghan. NR did not know the letter was about paedophilia and TMs. Her grandmother didn't think to inform her grandchildren.

If the letter was emailed, that should be helpful for the police.

What a very stupid family they are, incapable of getting even rhe basics of their story right.

If there was an award for wasting police time, the Markles would win it. If there was an award for wasting court time, Harry would win it.

Yes, how embarrassing. Wace having to have a “we don’t speak to staff like that here” conversation with them like HMTLQ was forced to do.

I wonder which billionaire will be prevailed upon to provide a home in Australia when/if Meghan +/- H and the Hamlets go there for the Junior Masterchef filming.

Harry won't work for the RF again. He's too much of a loose cannon - a term often used to describe Diana when she was alive, interestingly.
His behaviour has shown he isn't a good representative of the King.
He will be a rather pathetic figure in time, but I think would calm down if MM left. I think they wind each other up, and he'd be fine just filling his time gaming if she wasn't there. (Although she will probably wind him up from afar unless she finds a new man and moves on.)

Yes, that passage as written is just so unbelievable, given that Harry grew up in Kensington Palace.

It's a shame Rolf Harris has turned up his toes, pretty sure he had a big house in Australia standing empty.

KC is the oldest child of a Monarch whose maternal feelings led her to try and provide sanctuary for a younger child who was riddled with revolting PR & appalling choices.

The result of that maternal urge is now a problem KC has to manage.

He might have more typical paternal instincts tempered via the experience of being the brother responsible for a problem sibling. There may be some resentment that the mutual parent failed to force Kid 2 to stand on his own, big & ugly enough feet, much much sooner than when the really stinky shit hit the fan.

KC has seen how “obvious solutions to the problem offspring” do not exist. Because people are who they are, and so are their wives. There are only trade-offs with a moving target of “associated complexities”. Those trade-offs lead to a life-time of having to manage all future slipperiness, tantrums and “cunning plans to get my own way”.

So would KC want to risk saddling the PoW with a similar headache to the one his own head has throbbed with ?

I’m sure as a father it is painful to watch your child struggle so hard to launch into the life he said he wanted. Especially as he unfortunately funded the launch by slagging off his family.

It’s tempting to immagine a perfect world, where everybody could be trusted to stick to agreed terms forever. So unpleasant tendencies could be tidily curbed with the sweetener of home & stipend. However that temptation will probably be countered by his personal frustrations with the realities of being saddled with his brother’s ugly mess of a life until his very last breath, cos the world is not perfect and not everybody is trustworthy.

IMO Harry is probably out for good. And he might not believe it when the realisation comes, but it really is in his own best interests.

All of us with tricky backgrounds and false starts into adulthood eventually have to look at how we have lived so far, where that has taken us, and embrace the autonomy of doing things very diffently.

Even when that involves letting go of helplessness flavoured expectations of others, and turning ourselves into the knight who will save us.

Certainly for the HAMlets’ sake, daddy letting go of the ghost of the boy he was and working towards being the better man he can be, is the way to go.

None of that comes from a mean spirited place. I had to let go of rescue expectations and the ghost of the girl I was. I know by the scarred over blisters on my own feet it is a hard, hot, long road. But the destination is worth the painful trek. Especially when you have children who really don’t need family burdens passed down to them.

The Istanbul Soho House goodie bag story is here:

https://archive.is/zVzke

Just use archive.ph

Surely no-one but Graham Norton will do.

Many thanks - it's some time since I've read that story so couldn't remember all the details but I've never forgotten it

No wonder H feels entitled to complain that he had the smaller bedroom and one less sausage than William when she has a reputation for shenanigans like this. They both feel so hard done by when, in reality, they could have had a life of privilege that very few experience

I think this was MM’s plan all along with the relocation.

She’s very happy to drop PH and the kids in the UK to accumulate Britshness and Royal glitter which she can then merch post divorce in the US for the rest of her life. She’s even doing that now with her latest Tweedy Cotswolds As Ever shtick.

It would suit her for PH and the DCs to be doing faux royal stuff maybe even RF public stuff (Sandringham walk, garden parties, Christmas concerts, Ascot, Trooping etc) - in time before anyone bites my head off. She’s savvy enough to realise that this won’t happen with her on the scene so she’s happy to step back from that stuff if her absence makes it happen and ultimately lines her own pockets.

Their first relocation announcement centred on MM needing to work from their international bases - ie don’t expect to see her too much as she’s fading her broke, volatile, shabby, addict STBXH out - attempting to ensconce him safely into the arms of his community, country, family and friends because she’s done with the fool - but she still needs to rinse his residual legacy value however little it may be by being a Prince. Same with her DCs she needs them with the specific aesthetic British accent, boarding school, hunting, shooting, fishing look to flog on.

She’s always looking at the next rung / neck to stand on. I think the TMs crisis will just expedite this process and a bit like the 2019 letter somehow provide her with in her eyes the perfect excuse to publicly dump her STBXH (he didn’t support me in 2019 - he silenced me and made me bury it and go to the Royal Albert Hall - he didn’t support me when this then blew up etc etc.

Shes on her way out of that marriage - shes happy to leave PH and DCs behind if it serves her goals.