Ham pr disasters 61! ….enough is enough…is enough…we can’t go on!…no more tears! ……

[jeffgoldblum]

It’s the bodyguards fault was a new revelation!
who’s fault will it be next?
answers on a postcard please…….

The middle of the Australian outback would do me. PH could whine to the camels and the emus.

More likely M was trying to keep TMJ on side with offers of a future share of the goodies, when she did a big reveal after TMS passed on. But he is lasting longer than expected and TMJ wanted an earlier payday and jumped the gun.
Now M is running around trying to regain control of the narrative. Any future book/big reveal post TMS death is ruined.

I presume Wace offered them another property in order to get them to leave the big house.

I wonder if either of them reflects on the fact that they are now scrabbling for scraps of what was previously handed to them on a plate?

It must hurt to reflect on that. Bloody fools.

I dunno. It sounds attractive but it has a degree of long term strategic planning that MM hasn't so far shown in any of her projects. If she could plan something that complex (and bloody cold) she could make a better stab at all the other stuff she has launched.

In the meantim the idea of justice for CSA victims….

Yes, I would imagine he's edging them nearer the gates . . .

Seriously though I think it's actually to do with staff. I would imagine the Big House is permanently staffed - H&M have a pretty horrendous reputation regarding the way they treat staff. So I think H&M have upset the staff, who have complained to IW and he's moved them out to an unstaffed property so he can keep his own staff happy

Well he always said living in Africa was his dream. I always thought he seemed genuine in his love for Africa.

Agree

They had (and still have) money to buy a large property. They don’t need to be handed more.

The problem with the estate after the marriage was Megan's cultural issues. I know quite a few Americans who have moved to the uk and all have been shocked at how culturally different we are - they assumed we would be much more similar and it was harder than they expected to settle in. Meghan clearly did not feel settled here in a way that had nothing to do with the specifics of the RF.

Can we please not use the term child porn? Its child sexual abuse photos

This.

I think he genuinely did have a great love for Africa and, if M hadn't come into the picture, he could have found happiness there. He had good friends there, enjoyed the lifestyle and, at the beginning, did a lot of work with Sentebale

But as soon as M arrived on the scene all that fizzled out. I think Sophie C really pushed for him to visit the Sentebale projects because he didn't go there for several years

It's all down to "what M wants, M gets" and she didn't want Africa as part of the agenda (even though, IIRC, she stated on one visit that she is Nigerian)

They had (and still have) money to buy a large property. They don’t need to be handed more.

I'm beginning to wonder if PH actually has a clue about how to handle large scale money issues. He was brought up as a royal prince, the best of everything provided....I really question if he ever thought about where these things came from, because to him as a child all the expensive toys just appeared without any effort on his side. He seems to have carried that into adulthood. Need a house? just ask a billionaire for a loan of one. Life in the US not quite what we expected? come back to the UK and get into the family bank account again.

Watch the footage from the Nigeria tour where she’s snatching the presents they are being given. There’s textiles and jewellery/beads, I recall. She’s so busy snatching first, she doesn’t realise she’s got hold of the presents intended for Harry, and nor does she care. Her long arms and hands are out in that strange ‘mine, mine, mine!’ gesture with her eyes really focused.

Harry stands there like a complete dolt just letting it happen. They had to swap everything round later, it was reported. Utterly bizarre.

I wonder where all those ceremonial presents from their travels are now. Maybe those travels actually cost the HaMs a lot of Harry’s money and that’s why she was so snatchy over the ‘gifting ceremonies’, like she was at all-inclusive buffet.

I read a story some time ago about when M was invited to the opening of a new Soho House. All the invited guests were given a lovely time, taken out on a boat for a tour of a lake etc etc and at the end of their stay were given a goodie bag. M allegedly went to reception and complained about the contents of her goodie bag as she didn't think there was enough in it!

I could understand her behaviour if she'd grown up in poverty - that fear of never having enough never goes away. But from all accounts (except her's of course) her upbringing was pretty comfortable.

Yes..

Prince Harry’s Legal Debt After Court Loss
Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, is currently ordered to pay an interim £9.54 million to Associated Newspapers following the dismissal of his privacy lawsuit Global Banking & Finance Review. This figure is due by 28 August 2026 and is set to be paid on an indemnity basis, meaning the court is not requiring Associated Newspapers to prove the costs were reasonable or proportionate.

The High Court ruled in July 2026 that Harry and six other high‑profile claimants (including Elton John and Doreen Lawrence) failed to prove allegations of unlawful information gathering by Associated Newspapers

The Guardian
The judge, Mr Justice Nicklin, assessed that the claimants’ conduct justified indemnity costs, which can be far higher than standard costs
Global Banking & Finance Review.
Associated Newspapers’ total legal costs in defending the case are reported at £34.5 million, but the claimants’ insurance cover was only £16.2 million, leaving a shortfall The Guardian.
The £9.54 million interim payment is the earliest court‑approved amount Harry and the other claimants must pay; the final total will depend on further hearings and a separate costs assessment if the parties cannot agree Global Banking & Finance Review

Global Banking & Finance Review.

What this means for Harry

The interim payment is a immediate liability. If the final costs assessment exceeds this, Harry could face many more millions in legal fees Global Banking & Finance Review.
The ruling also reflects that the High Court found the claimants’ evidence insufficient and that the litigation strategy was unreasonable www.theroyalobserver.com
Because the costs are on an indemnity basis, no limit is currently set on the final outcome — the court will determine this in subsequent proceedings Global Banking & Finance Review.

In summary: As of now (August), Prince Harry owes £9.54 million in interim legal costs after the court loss, with the possibility of a much larger final bill if the full Associated Newspapers costs are assessed Global Banking & Finance Review

Bit of a pickle

Even people who grow up in genuine poverty never act like this.

That would be my guess too

He won’t give them any money outright. QEII tried that with Fergie & Andrew - remember the “South York” monstrosity that they then sold in a dodgy deal! And both have been homeless ever since. The Edinburghs only have their property on lease. Anne is the only one who owns a property gifted outright and she has managed that very well for herself and extended family - the wisest of the lot!

He’s not going to give them any significant ££ outright - now or on death because of IHT. At most they can expect access to a discretionary trust with the trustees being people highly trusted by RF, if not William/Charles themselves.

Meghan might get a cash sum on divorce. I think she is still being advised too much by US lawyers/PR/agents who simply don’t understand the royal family set up - the structure of the finances or the constitutional position.

Charles Spencer is one to watch. As it turned out his hospitality over the summer was actually timed to coincide with the launch and PR for his book. So there was something in it for him. What is there going forward? He has plenty of property he could offer Harry. He didn’t want Diana on his Northants estate - supposedly for security reasons but probably also because of the press circus - H&M are that in spades. But he offered D a large place in Warwickshire so presumably cld offer Harry that. D didn’t want it as W is not that convenient - but it’s handy for Birmingham airport for their private jets.

I question this great love for Africa. Lying under the stars, smoking weed. If he really was committed to it, he would have moved there years ago and do what? I really don't know as he's too lazy to do conservation work

There is footage of her having to take the necklace off that was intended for Harry and giving it to him, then putting the one that was given to her.

There wouldn't be a large settlement on the table though. Harry isn't heir to the throne, he's irrelevant to the LoS now.
The RF wouldn't use children they don't know as bargaining chips, they aren't hankering for them.

Gosh yes that was one of the worst. Mortifying. It's definitely a powerful compulsion that overpowers any self awareness or sense of occasion or proportion. I am always highly sceptical about unproven stories but I would be astonished if there was no truth to at least some of the stories of her light-fingeredness. The stories are quite possibly the top of the iceberg. I believe excessive acquisitiveness can be classed as a disorder of the mind in the same way as kleptomania. There is also plutomania.