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Ham pr disasters 60! ….they are mysterious and murky….mendacious and moany …..the markle family ….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 18:03

Well apparently this story isn’t going anywhere!

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InspectorDefect · Today 10:41

Voolio · Today 10:26

Surely each and every incident reported to police is an allegation until it’s investigated and tried in a court of law?

In this situation any investigation of those specific allegations were thwarted due to the failure of the Met to pass on the information to the appropriate LE agencies.

But it's not an "incident" is it. It's half a sentence.

Kingzandqueens · Today 10:42

MerryAquaKoala · Today 10:38

Hmm.. I think at That stage, yes there had been an original letter but clearly they all thought it was just another bonkers letter, they / the authorities must've received many. With no basis except trying to make money / cause problems. so .. it was checked out and put aside as nonsense. I really don't think she thought that her dad was a child abuser at that point. Surely not.

MM only referenced it recently as she mistakenly - inexplicably - thought it was a get out of jail card for the fact she'd cut her dad off in 2018 if not before, for other reasons.

And she declares in her 2025 letter to TM that she knows but yet no investigation seems to have taken place in the Philippines at that time?

Rhaidimiddim · Today 10:43

FancyKitten · Yesterday 23:54

On the first quote, I’ve sometimes wondered if MM is secretly on the payroll of some dastardly character (there are a few running the show!) out to destroy the RF. Like she’s working for a Bond villain, if you know what I mean. So much of what they (she) do is absolutely batshit… It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that she’s an agent of chaos. Anyhoo…

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I have long thought this, and have sometimes raised it here.

But I don't think we'll ever know.

Voolio · Today 10:43

readbutdonotpostoften · Today 10:27

I posted something similar yesterday about the statistics of how many letters the Met receive it year about the RF, so I can add to it now, of the total number of letters received, how many do they pass on to other countries?

For all we know, there may be thousands of letters received by the Met with various accusations, how many do they deem a serious threat? I expect they did in 2018/9 receive many such letters and probably still do now, for each one they will make a decision as to do nothing, pass on to the RF offices and/or pass on to others whether abroad or in the UK.

The Met have referred themselves to the IOPC, exactly for the reason Meghan made a statement therefore it is a high profile case and individual, but that does not mean they acted incorrectly, that is for the IOPC to decide, not the media or Meghan.

The IOPC have decided. They announced yesterday an independent investigation to WHY the Met failed in this standard obligation. And the Met are now forwarding the letter to appropriate LE agencies, seven years later.

Tiddlywinks63 · Today 10:44

Kingzandqueens · Today 10:40

She has really made a dogs dinner of it.. so if she says she knew does that mean she got clarification or more information in 2025 since the original letter sent in 2019

And why directly write to Thomas Markle saying she knows rather than passing on her relevant knowledge to the Filipino authorities?
She is married to the King of England's son any information she gave world have been treated with the utmost seriousness.

It makes zero sense. She is a self styled activist & humanitarian & she writes a letter to an alleged abuser saying she knows he abuses girls instead of using her immense connections to have it stopped?

No sense whatsoever. She’s no more an activist or a humanitarian than I’m the Queen of Sheba 👸🏼

bluegreygreen · Today 10:47

ImaPrinceImaPrinceanddonchaforgetit · Today 10:07

I have tracked down the auction of Royal and Noble jewels which will take place on November 11th.

Just incase @DaisyDooley has some spare cash.

I have spotted a couple of modest items with appeal for my modest needs and would like to point out it is my birthday next week. Just some rather lovely earrings. Lot 1024 or 1036 please. Though I also like the pearl ones similar to those that various royal ladies wear 1033 but they are considerably more expensive than my more modest choices.😉

www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2026/royal-noble-jewelry-ge2609?lotFilter=AllLots

So many lovely things there!

I would very much like 1028, as I've wanted an Art Deco watch for some time.

Also 1005, 1030, 1057 and 1081, if anyone is feeling particularly generous.

ImaPrinceImaPrinceanddonchaforgetit · Today 10:54

WilIiamsExtraSausage · Today 10:10

I can’t keep up either! So now I am a Plopper.

Us poppers can still bring news and enjoy the laughs where we can find them.
And add a sprinkling of react emojis along the way. Important public service!

Rhaidimiddim · Today 10:55

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 09:10

So could it be that this wasn’t actually a lapse in memory but was a deliberate attempt to imply that the letter could have been seen by the Cambridges

Overall there's starting to be an assumption that every piece of paper that came into their offices was seen by the Cambridges. It's like saying that every piece of paper that came into the accounts dept where I worked was seen by the CFO (which of course it wasn't). And I can't imagine MM saw that letter (whatever it said) and went running to the Cambridges to show them.

Apologies if that's been pointed out, just catching up.

And the Sussexes were pulling away from shared offices as early as October 2019, and the two offices had separate Christmas parties that year.

I can't see MM standing for her staff sharing any information, let alone stuff this sensitive, with the office of the woman who made her cry and the man who wagged his finger in her face.

ETA - they didn't even keep BP informed of when their son was born, they were being that squirrelly about sharing info with the royal in-laws.

MindThePause · Today 10:57

SiegfriedSassoon · Today 10:32

Perhaps that was what she was trying to prompt, for him to be proactive in burying any evidence. Not to protect him of course, but her own reputation by association.

I’m going to assume weaponised “believing” over Cunning Plan For Destruction of Evidence

You get a letter. The source lacks credibility by the shedload. You do not believe the allegations.

Fast forward many years, with or without any further information to move the needle on how much you originally believed the allegations, you can kick somebody when they are down by deliberately adjusting your previous “I didn’t believe it” into “I did believe it”.

That nice hard kick might just dissuade your relative from continuing to blab about you to the press. You’ve just created leverage.

Voolio · Today 10:58

Rhaidimiddim · Today 10:40

This is a thread about HAM PR disasters. So the pertinent thing to this thread is MM's appalling behaviour, from the time she got sight of that letter in 2018. Er, 2019.

Listen up ladies - no chatter about baubles allowed…..

diddl · Today 10:59

Rhaidimiddim · Today 10:40

This is a thread about HAM PR disasters. So the pertinent thing to this thread is MM's appalling behaviour, from the time she got sight of that letter in 2018. Er, 2019.

🙄

Rhaidimiddim · Today 11:00

Dontevenlookatme · Today 09:15

Can I ask people what they mean by saying that earlier action would have prevented children from being abused? As I understand it the allegations are about internet material, not actual direct abuse by TM of children. Is there more to this I haven’t seen? (I admit I’m not following that closely)

Well, the stash just found in Mexico includes pictures of TMSr with a young woman who could be a child - I've only seen images in which her face was blurred - and pictures of that same individual naked.

And as long as men like TMSr have the money and the appetite, direct abuse will occur.

diddl · Today 11:01

Voolio · Today 10:58

Listen up ladies - no chatter about baubles allowed…..

Yeah, that was me told & I think I'll bow out.

FancyKitten · Today 11:01

Kingzandqueens · Today 10:40

She has really made a dogs dinner of it.. so if she says she knew does that mean she got clarification or more information in 2025 since the original letter sent in 2019

And why directly write to Thomas Markle saying she knows rather than passing on her relevant knowledge to the Filipino authorities?
She is married to the King of England's son any information she gave world have been treated with the utmost seriousness.

It makes zero sense. She is a self styled activist & humanitarian & she writes a letter to an alleged abuser saying she knows he abuses girls instead of using her immense connections to have it stopped?

Because she doesn’t actually know anything about charity, humanitarian work (what does Archewell do?). She just wants to waft about in lovely clothes looking important. Like when she met Malala. What did they even talk about?

jeffgoldblum · Today 11:13

Rhaidimiddim · Today 10:40

This is a thread about HAM PR disasters. So the pertinent thing to this thread is MM's appalling behaviour, from the time she got sight of that letter in 2018. Er, 2019.

Yes thankyou, I didn’t want to stifle the conversation but the met really isn’t strictly on topic , plus it’s over shadowed the daytime Emmy ( which I can find no information on) and the rather lacklustre drop of the invictus tickets ( again hardly any information available!) .

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Rhaidimiddim · Today 11:15

Voolio · Today 10:58

Listen up ladies - no chatter about baubles allowed…..

I'm always up for a baubles-based digression.

Starryfifty · Today 11:16

FancyKitten · Today 11:01

Because she doesn’t actually know anything about charity, humanitarian work (what does Archewell do?). She just wants to waft about in lovely clothes looking important. Like when she met Malala. What did they even talk about?

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Her statement last week sums her up. Media were mean to me oh and btw, hope no kids got hurt (paraphrasing)

This is what she released to public domain. Says everything you need to know about Meg M

Starryfifty · Today 11:17

Apparently Meg did not attend the Emmys

nicegreenwillow · Today 11:19

Starryfifty · Today 11:17

Apparently Meg did not attend the Emmys

It was won by a dog quiz anyway

jeffgoldblum · Today 11:19

Starryfifty · Today 11:17

Apparently Meg did not attend the Emmys

Have you found any media reports at all about this? , ive only seen second hand sm posts! , apparently the dog documentary won but nothing conclusive has come out yet!
edit to add….Meghan was announcing this from pillar to post previously, her fans were trumpeting the Emmy nomination and then ….nothing!

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FancyKitten · Today 11:21

jeffgoldblum · Today 11:13

Yes thankyou, I didn’t want to stifle the conversation but the met really isn’t strictly on topic , plus it’s over shadowed the daytime Emmy ( which I can find no information on) and the rather lacklustre drop of the invictus tickets ( again hardly any information available!) .

H will be on the Invictus promo trail shortly? Wonder how all of that will go for them, now… Will MM be involved? I’m sure she had planned to be! Instead of the statement they should have gone with either of these methods -

Be photographed together, on a country walk, MM looking sad, being comforted by H.

Come out, Vicky B style (skiing after the R Loos affair) & fiercely stare down the paps.

But clearly there are backroom dealings going on with the papers with the Markles & HAM. Of course RF work with the press too, but this is all just so Machiavellian. Not good.

jeffgoldblum · Today 11:23

FancyKitten · Today 11:21

H will be on the Invictus promo trail shortly? Wonder how all of that will go for them, now… Will MM be involved? I’m sure she had planned to be! Instead of the statement they should have gone with either of these methods -

Be photographed together, on a country walk, MM looking sad, being comforted by H.

Come out, Vicky B style (skiing after the R Loos affair) & fiercely stare down the paps.

But clearly there are backroom dealings going on with the papers with the Markles & HAM. Of course RF work with the press too, but this is all just so Machiavellian. Not good.

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Yes Harry really should be promoting this ! , if purely for the invictus contestants….when are they going to notice he’s not helping but instead hindering their efforts at this point!

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jeffgoldblum · Today 11:27

KCitsweyourHammiewevecomehomenow · Today 11:21

https://www.thewrap.com/industry-news/awards/2026-daytime-emmys-complete-list-of-winners/

this one mentions ‘Adifferent breed’ as the winner in the lifestyle category

Many thanks! , so as losing to a dog program is probably not good pr , I’m assuming it’s being ignored now in the hopes everyone will forget the song and dance created at the time!

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Starryfifty · Today 11:31

jeffgoldblum · Today 11:19

Have you found any media reports at all about this? , ive only seen second hand sm posts! , apparently the dog documentary won but nothing conclusive has come out yet!
edit to add….Meghan was announcing this from pillar to post previously, her fans were trumpeting the Emmy nomination and then ….nothing!

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Probably not the most reliable

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2262065/meghan-markle-snubs-daytime-emmy/amp

Meghan Markle snubs Daytime Emmy Awards despite nomination | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

The Duchess did not attend the award ceremony despite her nomination for the 'Outstanding Lifestyle Program' category

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2262065/meghan-markle-snubs-daytime-emmy/amp