Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

[jeffgoldblum]

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

I doubt it. I doubt he has the capacity. Did you see him on that GQ interview? So inadequate and whiny.

😂😂

I totally agree. I can just hear the howls of indignation and the accusations of racism if the RF had acted on (how, though?) or made public the very serious concerns about M's family.

Yes I was wondering where he was getting the money to fund all of this.

The DM have turned the comments back on after moderating them all weekend...

I imagine M's comms team are reading and weeping.

So the BBC, when this first came out, asked is this why Harry and Meghan returned to the UK in haste?

They asked this question to Sussex PR and they said no it isn’t. We all know it doesn’t make sense the reasons they’ve given for returning.Its why the press still ask Harry etc. Just like it never made sense why Meg fell out with her dad over a few pap shots. We know when something is off.

Now I thought it was such a weird angle, that the BBC, who are not known for asking controversial questions of Meg and Harry, went down this avenue. So I thought maybe they have some info?

Well, something that might make sense is Markle jnr said he contacted the FBI in July. But that he never heard anything in three months so contacted the police in the Philippines.(See Meg, you follow up when you don’t hear anything)

Could the FBI, doing some preliminary investigations, have contacted Meg and Harry about any knowledge they had. I don’t think there was anything formal going on, as Markle Jnr never heard anything back. But could this possibly have spooked Harry and Meghan?

I think she said a lot of things under oath or as part of her sworn statement that now warrant a combing through.

Not a chance. He too will blame the RF for this

@AtIusvue - I thought they'd returned to the UK because they needed/wanted more royal adjacency?

Stop it! 😂

That was sarcasm.

I wonder if Harry is getting advice (and taking it) as he's unusually quiet

I doubt it.

Lol, with a rubber time and date stamp as a bonus.

And she's tried to destroy the reputation of others, particularly Catherine, to the world. And C isn't just a woman M has a problem with (I'm sure her life is littered with their corpses!): she's the future Queen of the UK, so the things M and H tried to pin on her were extremely serious and not just a celebrity spat.

Maybe they wanted that for some protection? Be under the wings of the Palace? Would be much easier to navigate this shit show

Also why Harry is super keen on reconciliation?

So, apparently in the mystery letter sent by Roslyn Loveless to the Met she writes:

“I questioned Thomas Snr — he denied accusation but stated that he went to the Philippines and Thailand because 12-year-olds are legal there.”

The accusation she questioned him about isn't given in the media reports yet, but it sounds like she heard some accusation and asked him about it, rather than having any first-hand evidence of her own. He denied it but then, for some reason, allegedly said why he went to the Philippines and Thailand. I don't know about Thailand but the age of consent in the Philippines was 12 until a few years ago when it was increased to 16.

If this is indeed what the letter contains, then there may have been nothing for the Met to investigate or pass on to another force abroad because it's very possible that no law was broken. Even if that wasn't the case, the allegations in the letter are so unspecific it would be difficult to know what to investigate. Moreover, Loveless could have been referring to allegations from the late 1960s and early 1970s (when she was married to Markle), which would have been outside the statute of limitations.

Also, we don't know just what the rest of the letter says or what the accusation against Markle Snr that Loveless refers to is or even when this conversation took place. Markle Snr and Loveless divorced in 1975, which is 50 years ago now, 44 years before she sent the letter. The conversation could still have been some years later, but even then it sounds like they were having a row. If he did indeed say that then he could have just been saying whatever nasty things he could think of in the heat of the moment.

Personally, if my dad's ex had said that about him then rather than immediately cut him off, I would confront him with these accusations, and I'd also bear in mind that my dad's ex is a problematic person herself.

Not defending Thomas Snr if he did do that stuff, even if was legal, but this letter doesn't quite chime with the timeline and narrative Meghan is trying to shape.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/40806546/thomas-markle-ex-wife-sick-confession/

This is surely an example of a tale to be taken with a pinch of salt. Hospital staff in the UK simply wouldn't allow that to happen.
Agree that I'm glad my husband isn't like Harry though, but then, I decided to marry him for reasons other than just, eerrm, aesthetic ones 😅

Given his mother's questionable judgement about people (prime examples above), you wonder what she would have said to PH about his wanting to marry MM.

If he does, I think he'll have to accept that there's no way back even for the most private relationship in the forseeable future...and that the US will have to be his forever home! 😯

But H never thinks even one move ahead, does he?

(Incidentally, apparently there was a chess champion with the name Sina Movahead...I'm not joking! H definitely doesn't.)

And remember that QE2 had a lifetime of disruption and scandal around the abdication that landed on her shoulders. She also spent decades of her reign micromanaging the shenanigans of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor behind the scenes - all of those similar behaviours, histrionics, drama, chaos, conflict and division seen with H&M must have been a triggering flashback as she had already walked this road and knew where it was going with a narcissist Folie a Deux.

Why did Harry brag about it in Spare?
Why all the stories of drug taking, bad judgement and stupidity?

I agree Diana wasn't always the best judge, but something tells me she would have disliked M on first meeting. Apart from anything else, D needed to be the star - and someone who clearly intended to be front and centre, and was prepared to use sharp elbows to get there, wouldn't have gone down well with Diana. Who knows also how she'd have taken to any women in the life of 'her boys'? She sacked Barbara Barnes for being too popular with them, and was very nasty to Tiggy.

But that's just a guess!

I don't think he's unusually quite. It's not as though he constantly pops up to express his opinion on everything and he doesn't have his own social media. Besides, this thing only broke a few days ago.

I do, however, think that even Harry might realise that this latest episode in the saga is too complex even for him to handle.

Because he thinks he is badass and down with the kids 😎