Harry & Meghan

[Idayatatime]

I'ts wonderful to see Harry & Meghan happy & smiling & back in the UK supporting their charities.

Regardless whether people agree or disagree with their return, like all families we may not always agree,we may even fall out for long periods of time. The important thing is finding it in our hearts to forgive while leaving bitterness in the past. Above all we must consider the unforgiving legacy we may leave behind & the children who can never be happy & fulfilled being brought up within a fueding family.

I do feel a bit sorry for W&C with what they've had to put up with from the Sussex's but you are right, it's certainly perked them up a bit, they're a bit work shy usually but have finally upped their game!

Slagging off the royal family on Oprah. Shaming the queen in her last few years on earth and throwing it all in the kings face writing books and doing Netflix documents about how awful Britain is.

Now that is intel, not that I’m going to ask.
What I want to know is - simply for being nosey - why are they really here?
Why drag your children away from a familiar home, lovely house, grandma nearby, all that space and sunshine to come back here?
That is what is off to me.
I don’t know what the sugars think after saying for years that their queen would never come back to beans on toast island?
It is him who grates on me now.
Well, it keeps the Daily Mail online in business I suppose.
I am but sure what their game is but if definitely doesn’t feel like a purposeful move more like another escape.
Whatever is going on, I hope their children are okay.

Oh here we go… 🙄
obsessive
haters

How about…
mildly irritated
duped British taxpayers

They've not caused me any angst or trauma. They've come back and that doesn't bother me at all.

I am uncomfortable with much of what they did, like the Oprah interview and the Spare book (which I did read and it was interesting) but do sometimes think that some members of the Royal family did need a kick up the arse too.

No effort was made by the Royals or their advisers to tackle the blatant racism in the press against Meghan and they took the "never complain, never explain" mantra way too far. They clearly weren't happy, so getting away for an extended time was probably for the best.

Personally, I think that the now infamous "Sandringham Summit" was a whitewash. A smokescreen. Far more effort could have been made to try and help or accommodate them, but nobody could really be arsed, the Queen included. The only options given were all in or all out.

I personally wouldn't have an issue with half in, half out. The former Duchess of Kent could be argued to have done just that, and in the end was mostly out, by her own choice. I am sure compromises could have been found, but no effort was made.

The Royal Family can accommodate and help if it wants to. They didn't want to at the time, perhaps down to the outdated views and stubbornness of the late Queen.

Perhaps the King will be quietly more lenient. They won't be working royals, they are private citizens. Private citizens can still support and champion charitable causes, and why not? Harry and Meghan have a high enough profile to do this very effectively. If that puts some other royal noses out of joint then so be it. Probably deserved and no harm done.

That's my tuppence worth and I see little reason to change it.

@Topseyt123

I really like your post and agree with so much of it. I think the Oprah interview was a huge mistake. It was pathetic and not thought out. Spare not so much, Harry has had hundreds of books written about him, why not write his own and despite what some people say he was very loving about his father. Some of it was a bit 'ouch' but it wasn't that bad.

I agree on the Sandringham Summit, didn't someone forge his signature or something? Or present him with a fait accompli or whatever. I just don't think they tried to accommodate the couple, I honestly believe that they thought if they cut off everything that he would give up Meghan and stay in the fold. Eight years later...

I also have no problem with the half in half out. Other Royals do it! Zara/Mike, York daughters (yes they do turn up to royal garden parties and all that, but that's probably now come to an end), they are all trading off their royal status in some ways, some more blatant than others.

Lots of private citizens/famous people support chosen charities! Why can't they? Good for them. It's given the rest of the Royals something to ponder on and K&W have done more engagements these last couple of weeks than I have ever known.

My thoughts remain despite the let's keep up the scorn towards a family whose children deserve to be treated with tolerance & respect within the the UK.

The RF know there are people who are ultimately against them breathing the same air so this scenario offers the perfect excuse to vent & justify their disdain.Those of us who are not of this opinion are at the same time entited to be against bringing children up within a family at war, whether they are Royal or not.

The Queen forbade them to do so, so has the King.

Has he, though?

That simply means that they can do the same things as private citizens. Nothing to stop private citizens championing charitable causes. You don't have to be royal to do that, though having a high public profile does help.

The Queen could only forbid that it be done in the name of the royal family. Otherwise, she had no power over it at all, much as she might have thought she did.

Same for the King now, though I think he might have enough common sense to realise it. He is quite old fashioned, but slightly less so than his mother perhaps. He has only said that they will be private citizens rather than working royals. He hasn't tried to dictate how they achieve that or what they do with their time. He can't.

Is this some sort of inspirational propaganda,? Such odd phrasing

Harry and Megan chose to leave the royal family. They chose to attack for money, no one forced them to, they chose to seperate their kids , again no one forced fbem, it was all a proactive choice they made,

No she didn’t, she said they could not monetise being royal. So they could not do royal engagements and work in the way fhey wished.

the engagements they do now are not royal, they are just private citizens pretending,

Forbade? The word of the monarch isn't law anymore. It's a bit hypocritical of someone behaving like royalty to try to stop other people from behaving like royalty.

For being lying, toxic bullies who have tried to trash their families, and worse still the RF for money.

Huh? The queen was fully within her rights to remove their right ti use hrh and say no royal engagements, are you maybe not from the uk?

No she didn’t, she said they could not monetise being royal.

Someone needs to tell other Royals that. Peter Phillips, Zara/Mike, York daughters. And the wonderful Sarah Ferguson who capitalised on her Duchess title for 30 years.

@simpsonthecat

Yes, the Oprah interview was a mistake. It would always have been a sticky wicket.

"Spare" was very informative. I'd originally told myself that I wouldn't read it but then I loaded it onto my kindle for holiday reading and was glad I did.

That's the beauty of a kindle. Nobody can immediately see what you are reading.

I agree, no one needs to apologise for calling out racism and bullying.

That was the deal!

Screaming Lord Such calls himself a Lord. Anyone could call themselves His/Her Royal Highness. Isn't that how kings started being kings, by calling themselves, and getting other people to call them "King", in the times when there was good old-fashioned threat of violence if people didn't. Fortunately these days no one has to take them seriously.

Screaming Lord Such calls himself a Lord. Anyone could call themselves His/Her Royal Highness. Isn't that how kings started being kings, by calling themselves, and getting other people to call them "King", in the times when there was good old-fashioned threat of violence if people didn't. Fortunately these days no one has to take them seriously

they could, but the king wouldn’t give a shit, the difference for Harry and Megan is he would, they agreed to stop using and any reneging on that could see them stripped of their titles like Andrew by an act of parliament,

now of course they could just continue, but they’d look even bigger twats than they currently do, and the public backlash and mocking would be off the scale. So it’s not like screaming lord sucb,

I don't understand the hate towards the couple. They are just people who could do so much good in the world. Harry is a prince and that is that. All this HRH nonsense is ridiculous.
If they're out and about it's up to them if they want to go and greet people.
If people were threatening my life I'd be staying indoors.
Megan has more opportunity than many to help others. The disgusting things said about her because she is mixed race should have been prosecuted. Our press is vile.
Personally I'd stick a hat on and go out and about. We're not all raving loonies just because we support the Royal Family.

It appears most countries have people of some description representing their country & bringing traditional practices do they not? 🤔

I don't understand the hate towards the couple

im surprised anyone doesn’t understand it, people are disgusted by rheir behaviour, selling trash talk and gossip on his family for money.

Exactly!
one minute it’s not safe to visit the UK in the summer, then a few weeks later they are moving back. So much drama created and as you say, we have now come full circle. What was the point?