Ham pr disasters 48! …a masterclass in grief grifting…

[jeffgoldblum]

Still interested, still not bored….a small request please 🙏…can we try to keep criticism to actions and behaviour and rather than getting personal.😁

Because nobody cares about her family.

Well yes I agree this is likely to be where their money has gone, but even so they wouldn’t have burned through well over 100million just yet. The fact they seem to potentially be in financial trouble and looking to get back in with the RF suggests that they don’t actually have anywhere near that much money

The Royal Family won’t sue.

The Markles would.

@Kingsandqueenz , I'm sure it would be of great interest to all of us to have a breakdown. But it's curiosity , we are not owed it. I have to agree with @IcedPurple and @wordler the article you quote refers to the original deal being "worth $75m. " It makes no reference to any money for the first look deal.
I think the PRH deal probably is the one most likely to be accurate. Spotify - they didn't fulfil the contract so who knows. Many magazine interviews will have been for PR not paid for. So let's be clear they have probably pocketed as I said above some 10s of millions - but do I think it's north of 100m ? , I suspect not. And as others have said , those figures will include production costs etc and pre tax. I'm sure H&M got a retainer from NF which will have been very lucrative , but having a cheque written to them for $100m - don't believe it. Nor $20m straight out from Spotify. I would believe the $20m advance from PRH, that sounds to most credible figure to me.

ETA - I would just say , they don't seem to backward in coming forward about asking for / accepting free housing , private planes , holidays , possibly clothing or jewellery - don't know but I suspect they look like they're living a more luxurious life than they are actually paying every penny for.

I guess they'd be likely to respond which I think could be interesting.

I imagine it is because her family won’t hesitate to open their mouths in return.

Harry must have felt fairly confident his would not get into a slanging match.

I don’t think her family would act in a similar fashion.

Definitely.

As I've said before, their 'lifestyle' really isn't that impressive. The Montecito house hasn't been redecorated in decades, they rarely seem to go on luxury holidays, Meghan wears mid range designers rather than couture, and so on. If they were genuinely worth upwards of 100 million, they could easily afford to do all these things, plus pay for security. From what I've seen of the latter, it's not all that impressive either.

Obviously they're wealthy by any normal person standards, but far from A list Hollywood rich.

No they probably havn't burned through it by any means but there's not as much coming in as opposed to 6 years ago when they had loads of dirt to sell about the Royal Family.

Then Spare came quickly afterwards with the big pay check plus all the TV & magazine interviews promoting it..

All they have & all they are wanted for is royal family gossip, unless they are here to try & get more material to sell but that won't happen as Camilla ,William & Kate as too wily to get burnt again.

But yes thd million dollar question is what exactly are they doing here?

I agree with this too even though I think their Montecito house is stunning. I think they have made millions by pawning their stories but that's only going to last as long as they have new stuff to pawn which is why Harry is on the Diana train now...

@jeffgoldblum this thread is on track to fill up in the next few hours. It might seem early but can you go ahead and create the next one? I’d hate to see it fill up during the night leaving us all either homeless or hijacked!

Anyone can start a new thread, but there are 5 pages to go on this one.

I find when new threads are started too soon, it splits up the discussion.

It's smoke & mirrors isn't.. You are correct in that we aren't entitled to know the exact amount the grift raked in but as they are demanding taxpayer funded security it would certainly be interesting

I appreciate your point but we’ve filled 5 pages in the space of a few hours.

They're in no position to 'demand' anything.

It seems pretty clear now that they aren't getting taxpayer funded security, at least not to the level they seem to think they deserve.

I really hope you are right!

'S okay Jeff. God help the universe if all women thought that the same man was handsome.

That's why God gave us such variety to choose from!

I think the key word in that article is reportedly.

I think they have made millions by pawning their stories but that's only going to last as long as they have new stuff to pawn

They haven't got any new stuff. There can't be anything to say about Diana that hasn't already been said. Their inside info on the RF is six and a half years old and no-one's talking to them so they won't be gathering any new gossip. They've got nothing left to sell.

@IcedPurple just further to your last post - a lot of what looks like A list - eg the private planes , holidays (eg Elton John) , borrowing houses eg NY for the purposes of interviews and being announced to an empty room 😂, I'm convinced a lot of M's wardrobe , possibly jewellery , is lent / paid for by others or they've asked for it. What do they apart from Montecito and the security actually pay for themselves? I'm also sceptical they've spent 6.2m on a holiday home in Portugal. They may have. I don't know. But that one all seems to be a bit Jack Brooksbank Soho House connected to me.

I do think this trying to maintain the look of a billionaire and Royal lifestyle must be hard work. But if it makes them happy , good luck to them. I don't think they can expect to go without some scrutiny and fair criticism when they put them selves about a bit though. & M tries to sell her lifestyle as a business.

That's exactly it... it's the Diana train now & Harry's grief masterclasses...

The royal family will also be well aware that Harry & Meghan have no insider info to flog so will avoid them like the plague to give them no ammunition!There's no way back for them.
Let's see what next week brings in grift land!

I don’t think for one minute it makes them happy though. They just strive for that A list appearance because that’s what they think “success” looks like. There is no fulfilment in their lives imo

Would they have to wear masks? Because god forbid the plebs catch a glimpse of the faces of the sacred children!

Nah. If it were to happen I'm sure HAM would use 'Hollywood Celebrity Disguise #352' for A & L; a baseball cap pulled low and a pair of HUGE sunglasses.

I also don't think they have the funds or the future funds to support the lifestyle they think they deserve.
I do believe they did make a serious amount of money by flogging their dubious royal family stories but the lifestyle they want is dependant on that sort of money constantly flowing in..
Diana memories really aren't going to cut it or make nearly enough cash..
Dancing on Ice ? I'm a Celebrity? Dancing with the Stars?

I do rather agree with you . However , when you look back at M when she was being written out of Suits and then had a chance of marrying H - I'm not sure she isn't living some version of her best life - certainly more than she could have foreseen back then. So maybe not the married to Jeff Bezos life , but I reckon she's not unhappy with the world stage opportunities , the wealth (even if not as much as she wanted ) and the fame she has.
I do largely agree with you and oh , how much more could they have made of things , but I'm not sure M is desperately unhappy in the sense that she would swap for where she was before.

A very minor disagreement @smilesy - please take it in the spirit of discussion 💐

I think in the grand scheme of things H&M must be looking back thinking the life of a working royal wasn't so bad after all..