PR and the Palace; are the mists clearing?

[Whentherainsetin101]

For those of us interested in the PR aspects of how the institution of the monarchy presents itself to us, the unsuspecting public, and given that Charles Spencer’s book has prompted a re-examination of events which took place over twenty-nine years ago, I thought this might be a good time to examine what Andrew Lownie calls;

“that gap between the curated narrative and the reality”.

We now know lots of things that weren’t obvious thirty years ago, for example;

We know that BP sometimes issues statements that question the credibility of the “accuser” rather than addressing an accusation directly.

We know that the relationship between the press and the palace is largely self serving on both sides.

We know that the royal rota tow the line in exchange for access.

We know that certain tabloids favour certain royals eg Fergie and The Sun.

We know that BP leaks and briefs certain stories to deflect from other more damaging ones.

We know that BP uses “safe” public figures to broadcast their spin for them eg it used to be Nicolas Soames but now appears to be Rory Stewart.

We know that many things presented to us in one way are in reality very different, eg the late Queen Elizabeth’s marriage, AMW being “banished” to Sandringham.

Given all of the above, do you think the Palace are losing the PR battle, simply because people are now much more switched on about ‘spin’ and because they favour a much more authentic approach?

For the second or third time, I was responding to a question!

To whom do you think the PR is aimed at, if not “we”?

I can count to three thanks.

See my user name 😉

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And if you look OP, I wasn’t even responding to you. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Can you drop this? Is that at all possible do you think?
Others, not just me, have said on here that he comes across as angry sometimes.
As for throwing in other people, that made me laugh as it's silly but I'll ask again, maybe you just need to accept that others may have different opinions to you.

I never said that you couldn't have an opinion. You posted something on this thread that I find a bit inexplicable and I was only asking why you made that claim? What's your evidence for seeing this personality trait in William?
Or is it just an unsubstantiated rumour?

I think posters ( myself included ) are simply looking for you to provide some examples of this alleged disguised anger.

I would like to see things dropped on other threads but they never, ever are.

I cannot repeat all that I have said in previous posts about this, so I'm not answering again

I am not starting rumours nor am I in a court of law with a demand for evidence by a barrister😅
My opinion that's all, and saying any more will only prolong the pain with more questioning and demands to qualify my opinion
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Yes, that's all. We can't see it, perhaps you have examples, simpson?.

Ok, it's fine. No, you're not in a court of law. It's just a chat thread. You made a bit of an odd claim about a public figure, we're just asking about it, that's all.
Perhaps step away from the thread if something is triggering you. 💙

A lot of people seem to be jumping on this William is incandescent with rage bandwagon. Perhaps you can link to the clips what you feel highlight this rage that is just below the surface but visible to you.

By your certainty there must be lots of these clips.Perhaps we’ll all agree with your assessment upon seeing your evidence

Or are you reading it so many times on certain pages it’s now your accepted truth and no supporting videos exist

Yes, I think that's the issue really. It appears on a lot of threads, but there's no evidence, so it seems a bit strange.

What is this " far more dissent" that you talk of ? What form does it take ?

Lots of people come across as angry sometimes but with William it has become a trope -especially with a particular group.

You have repeated this (to me) urban myth and that’s why I asked you to explain why you have that opinion- because it mystifies me. Yet it’s trotted out on here too often to be mere coincidence - it must have its origins in something you have observed.

If you asked me to explain my opinion of someone in the public eye I could do it.

Yes, I'd be inclined to explain as well.

I’ve probably seen far more fuss created when candles arrived with no wicks.

Stepping in to stop it? Just how is the king supposed to do that? He should not stop an investigation into Andrews action's that would be akin to popularity suicide

OK let’s put my money where my mouth is!

I think the “William is violent and angry “ trope is an orchestrated campaign by 3 main groups: SS, anti-monarchists and influences from hostile powers wishing to destabilise the UK by, in this particular case, defaming the next HoS.

Tin hat territory? No, I don’t think so. It’s common know that China and Russia use disinformation campaigns like this to try to destabilise governments.

It’s irrelevant what side of the monarchy/anti argument you’re on - William will be the next HoS.

Where are the grumblings and mutterings ? Genuinely asking where you see these ? Do you mean stories in the press or more?

@Whentherainsetin101

I don’t see any evidence that “people respond better to institutions which seem more democratic and accountable” (quoting your post). Our system is democratic and accountable - in what way is it not? We have political parties, they publish manifestos, we have elections, we vote and there has to be a GE at least every 5 years. Parliament is sovereign. Tell me how that’s not democratic?

The HoS being a monarch doesn’t translate to our constitution being undemocratic etc.

I'm genuinely interested in an answer to that. Is it at Republican meetings ? A particular author? News articles ? Or just a few friends who feel the same ?

Nothing is triggering me, what a truly bizarre thing to say!
I am quite comfortable here thank you, as you will see from my first post on here thanking the OP for starting this thread

Yes, we live in a functioning liberal democracy, with a varied free press.

You just seemed to get a little cross with the discussion. All good, no worries 🐱