PR disasters thread 26

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Let the conversation continue……

Not that I know of. I'll take one for the team and keep trawling Twitter and Redditt...

Not that I can find. It started being talked about on Reddit based on something else on the internet.

No real credible source as yet. But M’s own leak to Closer makes me wonder if it’s true …

IMHO, the foundational questions for HaM is: how they will make money to support their desired lifestyle for the next forty-odd years?

There is no path back. Endgame was the endgame for HaM. There's no way to undo what their proxy Scobie did. KW5 and KG7 are a hard no.

As for M, IMHO, she wants someone else to fund her lifestyle. The math is not mathing on any of her so-called business ventures. Food items have thin margins...as every single analyst who covers FMCG will attest. (FMCG is Fast Moving Consumer Goods such as spreads or jams).

M may want the adulation, but she has not put in the hard yards to give her projects the best chance for success. For example, other artists including A-listers do the rounds on TV/radio/podcasts promoting their projects. Compare that to M...what promo did she do for her Netflix show or the Spotify podcast? I do not see the effort consistent with someone who takes her projects seriously and wants to make her own money.

I fail to understand how a picture with KC3 would magically give HaM the project management skills to create entertaining products that generate profits. And I can't see media investors being keen to engage two proven losers when they can invest in many other creatives who either have a track record or seem talented and are hungry for a chance.

Either way, I would advise HaM to enjoy this time under KC3 the enabler because the future holds a hard reckoning.

' But she can’t moan about the restrictions of marrying into the BRF because that’s what she chose. She CHOSE this. So, now put up or shut up. Or, more likely, divorce.'

By all accounts she didn't just choose to do it, it was a focused campaign to pursue h and get that ring asap. He couldn't believe his luck that she was interested, absolute pillock. H is not marriage material, only an ambitious, agenda driven person would tolerate him. It's a shame QE and KC didn't sort him out sooner to be socially acceptable. They didn't allow amw to marry koo stark, they dropped the ball with h or maybe they were glad to be rid of him.
I doubt m will ever understand she just isn't that important or her husband, they fucked it up. She's had more than her 5 mins of fame, it is awful to watch them both clinging on by their nails, gasping the last bit of oxygen, attention and goodwill.

I missed that article upthread.

What on earth is "Meghan" or the source on about, if the quotes are accurate which they may not be of course.

The royal Instagram pages are there to publicise the work of senior working royals, not members of the family. We don't see Beatrice or Zara on there having tea with their Uncle Charles because it isn't the place for private family events.

No one stopped her posting photos of her trip, she couldn't post photos of a private royal family meeting, because no one posts those. Catherine, when she released the film celebrating the end of her cancer treatment didn't include private moments with the King, only her own parents.

Considering they managed an entire trip where no one took photos of them why does she need security? Why this talk of not being able to hold her head up high? They were invisible not bothered by the public; we are used to delusional security talk from Harry, this is new from Meghan.

What a very strange decision to let sources air all that.

I do wonder though, has Harry finally realised that financially they are sunk without his family. Jam isn't going to bring in the millions they need do reconciliation is really the only option at this point. (Which doesn't mean they'll be back as working royals, that's a separate issue)

I don't think there is a way back, they would never accept the conditions imposed for house and allowance. They want to be top dog not like pervy uncle Andy in exile. Though I suspect h would happily go back to living like a juvenile gaming all day stoned, no worries or bills to pay.

Though I suspect h would happily go back to living like a juvenile gaming all day stoned, no worries or bills to pay.

I have said this before - I can clearly envision a scenario where Harry lives in a cottage on the Sandringham estate and does bugger all, having all his needs met and paid for in exchange for keeping out of the way and being a private citizen. Unfortunately, Meghan would last approximately three minutes in this scenario before doing something to make herself the centre of attention. There is not a cat in hell's chance that woman will ever live quietly under the radar, and certainly not in a cottage in Norfolk! Dear me, no. Even Sandringham House itself wouldn't be enough for her Majesty.

But his friends warned him . Charles Spencer warned him . Prince Philip warned him .

I agree . Had KC and QC fawned over Meghan and included her from the minute they arrived , I doubt we would have had these complaints .
If it wasn’t true that she and the DC had to wait with an Aide then there would have been a clap back .

I would advise HaM to enjoy this time under KC3 the enabler because the future holds a hard reckoning

Just the end line from your excellent post, @My2cents1975, but bearing in mind we don't yet know what William will do we can only hope so

IF the sources are correct they've just been hosted by family members from his side and hers, and yet she's still not satisfied but "humiliated" instead - which is ironic since her behaviour would normally see her nowhere near the tables of the priviliged (edited to add his neither if it wasn't for his title, but the article was about Meghan so ...)

I'd say she could perhaps take her vulgarity somewhere private, but doubt she has the wit to recognise the need even for that

Everyone warned him. He's unbelievably stupid. Rich, privileged bachelors are constant prey for gold diggers / grifters. Generally they listen to counsel. He only has himself to blame. However, I do think they are well suited

That Closer article is very damaging tbh. Is that coming from a "source"? This pair are extremely lucky to be let within 10km of the family they have sold down the river

Even AMW warned him.

I know believe me it will always be W’s fault - that is the sibling dynamic.

It isn’t logical, it isn’t reasonable etc. but to H the fact W exists means he doesn’t get what he wants/wanted I.e. the bigger bedroom, the extra sausage, the Duchy of Cornwall, the Crown.

AMW knew his number was up. I would imagine he was warned to keep his head down and keep quiet. Unfortunately H will not. He'll be a constant sore on the RF, demanding the balcony shots, walkabouts, bells and whistles.

He's a young man. There's a chance he'll fall for another two bit grifter and there's another shit show

I think the article or the source is quite disingenuous - it talks about the ROYAL privacy conditions of no photos - but they didn’t post any other photos where anyone else’s privacy could be invaded - eg Ian Wace. Lots of people hosting weddings / events these days ask that no photos are posted to SM - it’s a basic etiquette. They didn’t step on Ian Waces toes and complain or anyone else they stayed with in Portugal or UK.

Also there is an conflation in the article that they broke ROYAL protocol and they are hurt that they are being criticised for photos of the DC - but this was at Althorpe which is not royal and looks like CS allowed this - so what’s their gripe?

They are twisting the facts and even their own behaviour and compliance to at least 3 venues / hosts - just to muddy the waters that they are raging they had to toe the line with KC3.

The sibling rivalry is very, very odd. What is it ? Surely he realises this is completely out of his and William's control. H would have had a very prominent role in the WRF, especially considering how small the WRF is now.

I absolutely believe she was told to wait outside while Harry met with KC, the Palace knew exactly how to play that meeting, putting Markle firmly in her place, they will have had to go through security checks as well, they both will have been searched for hidden cameras and recording equipment, Markle would have been absolutely furious, the jaw clenching would have been off the scale and Harry will have felt the full force of her narc rage once they were all escorted off the premises.

She never wanted to marry PH and stay married to PH unless there was money and clicks - that’s why they left the RF and UK. They desperately wanted HIHO.

MM retained her agents, lawyers, accountants and PR team from the US throughout - from her first meeting with PH and throughout her time in the BRF - their assignment was max out the deals Stateside and propel her into A lister Hollywood elite society - they did well to be fair with initial deals with NF, Spotify, PRH …. but H&M couldn’t deliver the talent, work ethic or aspirational USP / X factor to sustain any of these deals into the medium term…..or even display any professional competence, integrity or emotional intelligence behaviours.

They are just greedy, grasping grifters.

They haven't clapped back about that statement which speaks volumes. I would hope H was searched also. He's no better than his grifter wife

I suspect everyone would be worrying a repeat of the ridiculous Kris Kardashian birthday party photos might ensue. Yes the pics of Harry leering at Kris’s cleavage were gross. But even more embarrassing was having them pulled, the competing narratives around the pulling of the photos, Kim saying something about it months later…just made them look like idiots who can’t even go to a party like normal folk. Given that context why, just why did Meghan have to post the Loch photo, trying to be all cryptic and intriguing? Because unless the world knows about it, it may as well not have happened. What a sorry personality flaw, and what a risk being anywhere in her environs if you have anything she might covet.

I'm not saying I don't believe that Harry had a short time with his father separately. It makes sense, even on a normal family level. I'm just interested in where the story appeared from.

I haven't seen it written in any mainstream news source, even from a 'source'.

(I'm also certain there will have been very careful security checking.)

But surely they realise a photo is on the internet forever? Same with that awful freedom flight video from H where he is completely stoned and he's thanking a very good friend who he never met. He tried to get that pulled. Also the OW interview

Fact is, Harry isn’t defending her like he used to and that stings. She wants and expects a lot more from him in that regard and finds it disturbing and depressing that he’s not putting her first

This after the Alison Boshoff report

Harry never wanted to be estranged but he was madly in love. Now the veil is lifting'

As @Mylovelygreendress said, trouble in paradise?

I definitely think the meeting went something like this! 😂

https://youtube.com/shorts/QPPeARVmcOY?is=44rFlalUgbRakHkD