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Dan Wootton obsessed with H &M

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BeverleyMakka · 22/07/2026 15:16

Why is Dan Wootton so obsessed and full of hatred for Harry & Meghan?

i recently listened to Spare on audible - purely because it was free and I was interested to see what he had to say. ( most of it was boring self indulgent crap imo)
predictably the algorithms have filled my YouTube with H &M stuff!

it seems there is a daily barrage of videos from DW about them, such vitriol from this man. It’s unhinged!
I mean don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of theirs at all but Jesus he acts like they murdered his granny.
He’ll post a picture of one of them literally smiling and turn it into a massive conspiracy theory about smirking at the Queen on her deathbed or some utter nonsense

rant over!!!

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IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:06

threesocksmorgan · 26/07/2026 19:02

You said it was “ tongue in cheek “
that is minimising.

Do you think he really meant it?

It was unequivocally a horrible thing to say. But he no more meant it than someone saying “I could kill him for that!”

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:07

And now I’m getting House of the Dragon ads.

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 19:09

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2026 12:59

What were we saying about discussion?
Impossible 😔

Yes it is impossible when posters go on about pigeons to try and shut discussion down like only their opinion is valid and everyone else is a pigeon on a chess board

Its dehumanising to call other posters pigeons. It's actually really nasty and degrading and well people who do that says alot about them and their attitude really. I would never go that low not even if I hated someone even let alone strangers I don't even know.

Justdancevance · 26/07/2026 19:18

Well I see Clarkson is undergoing cancer treatment so I wish him well.

IAmATorturedPoet · 26/07/2026 19:25

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 19:09

Its dehumanising to call other posters pigeons. It's actually really nasty and degrading and well people who do that says alot about them and their attitude really. I would never go that low not even if I hated someone even let alone strangers I don't even know.

Wasn’t there a poster very recently, on a now deleted thread, that felt the negative opinions on HAM on the RF board weren’t reflective of the general publics opinion (that opinion being their own more favourable one) and so their answer to that was to shut down the entire RF board? Or was that all a bad dream?

I really don’t think people should be too concerned about the odd 🐦 reference 🤷‍♀️

threesocksmorgan · 26/07/2026 19:27

If it was an odd reference. Fine, but it is used a lot

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 19:28

Back to OPs question, well the constant vitriol from commentators like Dan Wootton isn't journalism it’s a commercial enterprise built on triggering outrage loops for views and ad revenue.

What’s wilder than him, though, is the obsessive crowd he feeds on platforms like X and YouTube etc.

its interesting to observe from a behavioral science view which explains exactly why his followers find this daily malice so entertaining:

Dr. Albert Bandura (renowned pyschologist) proved that people frequently project their own real-world frustrations, boredom, or anxieties onto safe, distant targets as an escape

Dr. John Maltby publised research on the Celebrity Attitude Scale established that spending hours daily dissecting or inventing conspiracies about a stranger's family life is an unhealthy coping mechanism deeply tied to personal isolation.

Dr. Jonathan Haidt (renowned social psychologist) explains how toxic online echo chambers use 'moral licensing' to frame obsessive bullying as a noble act of 'holding people accountable.'

Ultimately, commentators like Dan only thrive because he knows how to manipulate people into finding malice entertaining.

Maybe that helps to explain it 💁‍♀️

BasiliskStare · 26/07/2026 19:30

If I don't mentions pigeon and promise you I disagreed with Clarkson's comment (which I think went beyond the line of even his humour ) am I allowed to join in or are there other rules?

Upthread someone said criticism of MM is "partly racist". I'll ask again Do we have any evidence of this, on related threads. I'd like to know because I would report this myself.

IAmATorturedPoet · 26/07/2026 19:33

jeffgoldblum · 26/07/2026 18:50

I’m having my explanation that it was a tv reference, twisted into “minimising “ and “excusing “ and even better!! “Defending “ ….when I have not actually given my opinion on him actually using it!! 🤣🤣🤣
I probably need to attend confessional and say 100 Hail Marys!

How very dare you provide an explanation😂
Nevermind 100 Hail Marys, it’s self-flagellation for you!!

Justdancevance · 26/07/2026 19:40

What Clarkson should have done is said ‘I never wrote that, it was the media’ because if you say that, it never happened 🪄

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:40

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 19:09

Its dehumanising to call other posters pigeons. It's actually really nasty and degrading and well people who do that says alot about them and their attitude really. I would never go that low not even if I hated someone even let alone strangers I don't even know.

I thought pigeon was a term of endearment?

Justdancevance · 26/07/2026 19:41

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:40

I thought pigeon was a term of endearment?

Only if you say it in a French accent.

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:46

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 19:28

Back to OPs question, well the constant vitriol from commentators like Dan Wootton isn't journalism it’s a commercial enterprise built on triggering outrage loops for views and ad revenue.

What’s wilder than him, though, is the obsessive crowd he feeds on platforms like X and YouTube etc.

its interesting to observe from a behavioral science view which explains exactly why his followers find this daily malice so entertaining:

Dr. Albert Bandura (renowned pyschologist) proved that people frequently project their own real-world frustrations, boredom, or anxieties onto safe, distant targets as an escape

Dr. John Maltby publised research on the Celebrity Attitude Scale established that spending hours daily dissecting or inventing conspiracies about a stranger's family life is an unhealthy coping mechanism deeply tied to personal isolation.

Dr. Jonathan Haidt (renowned social psychologist) explains how toxic online echo chambers use 'moral licensing' to frame obsessive bullying as a noble act of 'holding people accountable.'

Ultimately, commentators like Dan only thrive because he knows how to manipulate people into finding malice entertaining.

Maybe that helps to explain it 💁‍♀️

I wonder if you could persuade some of Dan Wooten’s followers to chime in here? It would be interesting from a behavioral science point of view.

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:47

Justdancevance · 26/07/2026 19:41

Only if you say it in a French accent.

😁

BasiliskStare · 26/07/2026 19:58

@LipglossAndLies - it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that people who put themselves out there for publicity will be noticed and examined and possibly criticised.
Not everyone who criticises people they do not know but has seen what they have done and said via tv appearances , interviews , books , instagram etc is "obsessive".

I'm not disagreeing with you in that there is a sort of little "industry" for want of a better word around H&M and commenting on what they do, But Occam's razor, if the criticism outweighs the plaudits , could it just very possibly be because people don't agree with them and don't warm to them.

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 20:16

Celebrity attitude scale could be useful!

mrsharrispsychology.school.blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/335612253-celebrity-attitude-scale.pdf

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 20:19

Are we allowed to ask here if something was generated via AI or is that verboten?

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 20:59

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 19:46

I wonder if you could persuade some of Dan Wooten’s followers to chime in here? It would be interesting from a behavioral science point of view.

I doubt they would be interested in actually discussing these points and the behavioural science aspect of the parasocial relationship. After all they find it entertaining to mock people.

BasiliskStare · 26/07/2026 20:59

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 20:16

Gordon Bennet that is weird , Thanks , but some of those questions are just, well weird . Am I wrong?

@LipglossAndLies are you suggesting posters on MN have a parasocial relationship with M & H rather than just seeing what they say and post and commenting on it for some interest and discussion ? Fine if that's your opinion.

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 21:04

BasiliskStare · 26/07/2026 20:59

Gordon Bennet that is weird , Thanks , but some of those questions are just, well weird . Am I wrong?

@LipglossAndLies are you suggesting posters on MN have a parasocial relationship with M & H rather than just seeing what they say and post and commenting on it for some interest and discussion ? Fine if that's your opinion.

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You are not wrong!

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 21:06

LipglossAndLies · 26/07/2026 20:59

I doubt they would be interested in actually discussing these points and the behavioural science aspect of the parasocial relationship. After all they find it entertaining to mock people.

What does Wooten talk about? I’ve frankly never read nor watched any of his content.

AnAutumnCrow · 26/07/2026 21:24

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 20:16

Ah, a quiz that asks ‘are you mental?’ over and over again in increasingly bewildering ways. How frightfully modern.

BasiliskStare · 26/07/2026 21:27

AnAutumnCrow · 26/07/2026 21:24

Ah, a quiz that asks ‘are you mental?’ over and over again in increasingly bewildering ways. How frightfully modern.

How unlike the home life of our own dear Queen 😂

Bonkers

IndefatigableSusan · 26/07/2026 21:29

Can we just take a quick poll?

Does anyone here think any member of the Royal family would be happy to see them if they walked into their home uninvited?

(Please don’t answer yes if you’re a solicitor and your Royal is AMW.)

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