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PR Disasters thread 21

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thenightsky · 08/07/2026 17:34

Lunde · 08/07/2026 17:24

Charlotte Griffiths has written a tell all article about Harry!!

Not read it yet but she was really unhappy that Harry threw her under the bus in the podcast

archive.is/wHsNV

Blimey, such barefaced lies from Harry! I'm amazed he thought he'd get away with them.

Mylovelygreendress · 08/07/2026 17:36

cheezncrackers · 08/07/2026 16:50

Seriously? They are so fucking deluded and entitled. Well, good riddance! I'm glad MM never wants to come back to the UK - we don't want her here and won't miss her. She has been nothing but trouble.

I feel for the King, who will now presumably never see his GC again, but I have the utmost respect for him standing up to HAM and not allowing them to blackmail and manipulate him. What a despicable pair they are.

You know what? It would serve the RF and the U K right if Meghan and Harry give up their titles and those of their DC !
That will teach them .
No more pleading with them to come back and for M to be the face of the RF .

Lunde · 08/07/2026 17:41

CrocsNotDocs · 08/07/2026 17:24

It’s from the Mail Plus section and I don’t know how to archive. I’ve cut and pasted a section in the ANL thread.

I've archived on the post above yours

Aprilfountain · 08/07/2026 17:45

thenightsky · 08/07/2026 17:34

Blimey, such barefaced lies from Harry! I'm amazed he thought he'd get away with them.

I suspect there may be many more stories like this to emerge in the future. For now, I think Hazbeen needs to go home, lick his wounds and just leave the British people alone, we just don't want him here anymore!

Lunde · 08/07/2026 17:47

So Harry and Meghan also set up the journalist he barely remembers for the PR balcony shot last year with Meredith, Liam and Tobyn meeting - by tipping off CG in advance, and then running to the Telegraph pretending to be shocked at the leak!

I can now reveal that, during the summer of 2025, a close adviser to Harry and Meghan had contacted me out of the blue and invited me to lunch at the Ivy restaurant in London.

As a result of information given to me at that lunch meeting, I placed a series of stories in The Mail on Sunday that portrayed the couple in a positive light. This included a front-page article, which ran in July, suggesting that Harry and Meghan were attempting to rebuild their relationship with King Charles. It revolved around the fact that Liam Maguire and Meredith Maines, Harry and Meghan’s US PR chiefs, were to hold clear-the-air talks with the monarch’s aide Tobyn Andreae in London.

I was duly tipped off about the meeting, which was held at the Royal Over-Seas League near Clarence House. The attendees settled themselves on a balcony plainly visible from the public park below. The Mail on Sunday arranged for a photographer to capture the cosy but very embarrassing scene.

In a development which speaks volumes for their integrity, ‘sources close to the Sussexes’ then briefed the Daily Telegraph that they were ‘very frustrated’ that the pictures of the Royal Over-Seas League gathering had ended up in The Mail on Sunday – suggesting, quite falsely, that the Palace was responsible for a grotesque betrayal of trust.

KatherineParr · 08/07/2026 17:47

I actually wonder if attacking the judiciary and legal system is a strong enough argument to remove Harry's titles and place in the line of succession. I've always said there's no point in doing this but it's obvious he's not fit to represent the UK. You can't have the royal family implying the judiciary are corrupt.

EmpressSisi · 08/07/2026 17:50

Omg Charlotte, that’s brutal!

But I have very little sympathy for Harry here. This is what happens when you’re caught out lying and this is what happens when you do your own tell all and air your (and your family’s) dirty laundry.

😬

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 18:00

Jesus, steady on CG😂 blatant lies, leaking etc from HAM. More of this, I'd say

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 18:01

KatherineParr · 08/07/2026 17:47

I actually wonder if attacking the judiciary and legal system is a strong enough argument to remove Harry's titles and place in the line of succession. I've always said there's no point in doing this but it's obvious he's not fit to represent the UK. You can't have the royal family implying the judiciary are corrupt.

I don't think the LOS is that big a deal ? AMW is still in LOS ffs and there's more chance of me or you getting to the throne than these pair of twats

IcedPurple · 08/07/2026 18:04

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 18:01

I don't think the LOS is that big a deal ? AMW is still in LOS ffs and there's more chance of me or you getting to the throne than these pair of twats

Edited

Yes, and the procedure for removing someone from the LoS is extremely complex, involving not just Westminster but all the overseas realms. I don't think it's ever been done in history.

As you say, the chances of Harry ever being King are remote and he's just not worth the bother.

EmpressSisi · 08/07/2026 18:04

Oooh Cressida was still in love with her ex when she was with Harry…ouch I bet that will hurt his ego 😬🤭🤣

Edit: Oh that ex is the one she ended up getting back with and marrying!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2026 18:06

Lunde · 08/07/2026 17:47

So Harry and Meghan also set up the journalist he barely remembers for the PR balcony shot last year with Meredith, Liam and Tobyn meeting - by tipping off CG in advance, and then running to the Telegraph pretending to be shocked at the leak!

I can now reveal that, during the summer of 2025, a close adviser to Harry and Meghan had contacted me out of the blue and invited me to lunch at the Ivy restaurant in London.

As a result of information given to me at that lunch meeting, I placed a series of stories in The Mail on Sunday that portrayed the couple in a positive light. This included a front-page article, which ran in July, suggesting that Harry and Meghan were attempting to rebuild their relationship with King Charles. It revolved around the fact that Liam Maguire and Meredith Maines, Harry and Meghan’s US PR chiefs, were to hold clear-the-air talks with the monarch’s aide Tobyn Andreae in London.

I was duly tipped off about the meeting, which was held at the Royal Over-Seas League near Clarence House. The attendees settled themselves on a balcony plainly visible from the public park below. The Mail on Sunday arranged for a photographer to capture the cosy but very embarrassing scene.

In a development which speaks volumes for their integrity, ‘sources close to the Sussexes’ then briefed the Daily Telegraph that they were ‘very frustrated’ that the pictures of the Royal Over-Seas League gathering had ended up in The Mail on Sunday – suggesting, quite falsely, that the Palace was responsible for a grotesque betrayal of trust.

Edited

Quelle surprise Hmm

There was never the least chance that the "balcony shot" was a coincidence, but it's a bit much that Harry tried to suggest he barely knew CG

Just more lies to go with all the rest ..,

cheezncrackers · 08/07/2026 18:06

EmpressSisi · 08/07/2026 18:04

Oooh Cressida was still in love with her ex when she was with Harry…ouch I bet that will hurt his ego 😬🤭🤣

Edit: Oh that ex is the one she ended up getting back with and marrying!

Edited

Yeah, that's quite a bombshell isn't it? I certainly haven't heard that one before.

IcedPurple · 08/07/2026 18:07

EmpressSisi · 08/07/2026 18:04

Oooh Cressida was still in love with her ex when she was with Harry…ouch I bet that will hurt his ego 😬🤭🤣

Edit: Oh that ex is the one she ended up getting back with and marrying!

Edited

Also called Harry and taller, more handsome, more educated and all round apparently a much better person than the Spare!

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 18:07

I do think Ingriftus will get shot if him. Insulating the British judiciary when UK are to host next year games is not a good look. HAM and the Sussex brand is just too toxic now.

I'd say the Afghanistan movie is out too. Not that they had any work ethic/commitment to drive it 🙄

AtIusvue · 08/07/2026 18:12

The Guardian:

It really hasn’t been a very good week for Harry. Our fifth in line to the throne will retire to Montecito, his gated California fastness – not, as seemed at least possible a week ago, having visited his mother country to public sympathy and applause, mending a few broken fences and seeing his old dad again. Now instead it will be a retreat in confusion, not having stayed in a palace, or seeing his busy pater, and worst of all, bested at huge cost by the Daily Mail, the bete noire of all bete noires.
The prince might reflect that he has brought many of his troubles on himself. He will leave with the rightwing press chortling that, for a crusader for personal privacy, he has outed himself much more comprehensively than they ever managed with his rancorous TV interviews about how horrible his family has been to him, his glutinous Netflix series and, most of all, his memoir Spare, with its revelation, among much else, about his frostbitten penis.

Worse still, his obsessive campaign against the tabloid press has dragged other people, most notably Doreen Lawrence, with him into a legal case he was unlikely ever to win. As Mr Justice Nicklin pointed out in his 436-page ruling at the end of the three-month phone-hacking trial, inference and hearsay are not enough: hard evidence is needed. Perhaps his lawyers should have pointed that out and perhaps they did, and he didn’t listen. It was unfortunate that the chief witness, Gavin Burrows, retracted his evidence that he had been paid to hack celebrity phones 20-odd years ago, but without him the case was fatally undermined.
Harry, or his lawyers, should known that newspapers don’t like to be challenged and employ their own legal teams to check details painstakingly closely before publication (the legal director was a former Labour shadow attorney general when I worked there). The Mail simply could not afford to lose, especially against the prince, and it was relentless in fighting the case. No wonder its former editor, Paul Dacre, was crowing on Tuesday night as the paper lavished the story across 11 pages with sententious moralising about the freedom of the press.
The ruling may well kick press regulation further into the weeds, so Harry’s hopes of wielding the simple sword of truth – as Jonathan Aitken, a former, spectacularly unsuccessful litigant against the Guardian, once had it – would seem to be indefinitely delayed. Instead, on 29 July a hearing will begin to give a ruling on the reported £50m legal costs of the action, much more than Harry alone can afford and enough to blast a large hole in Elton John’s bank balance – let alone Doreen Lawrence’s or Simon Hughes’s. Dacre was particularly hurt by Lawrence after the Mail championed the family when their son Stephen was killed by white south London thugs in 1993. There was talk yesterday of an appeal against Nicklin’s judgment, but with the judge having dismissed all 97 allegations against the Mail, this would seem to be wishful thinking.
It is unlikely that King Charles will help to pay his estranged son’s debts as the late Queen apparently did his uncle Andrew’s, after the Virginia Giuffre case. At least, the king may reflect, Harry did not learn the news while staying at Buckingham Palace.
Harry’s rancour against all those he believes have persecuted him have long since cost him most public sympathy, in the UK at least. The world does not see him on his terms. His demands for special treatment, including police protection for his family while he is in Britain, are unlikely to be met while he is not performing royal duties, and his apparent spurning of the offer of a bed in one of the 52 state bedrooms at Buckingham Palace on his current visit will not elicit much understanding.
He seems doomed to eke out a sad life in California, and we may not see either his wife Meghan or his children Archie and Lilibet here any time soon. Maybe the young ones will only see the family realm a decade or more hence if they come backpacking as students – but that might be good for them and the royal family. Perhaps Uncle William will put them up. Time heals.

Lunde · 08/07/2026 18:16

I wonder how long we'll need to wait for the Sussex clapback? 🍿🍿

Although it's a pretty long article so it'll take Harry some time to read it

... and the Cressida bit is just a bonus 😂

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 18:17

AtIusvue · 08/07/2026 18:12

The Guardian:

It really hasn’t been a very good week for Harry. Our fifth in line to the throne will retire to Montecito, his gated California fastness – not, as seemed at least possible a week ago, having visited his mother country to public sympathy and applause, mending a few broken fences and seeing his old dad again. Now instead it will be a retreat in confusion, not having stayed in a palace, or seeing his busy pater, and worst of all, bested at huge cost by the Daily Mail, the bete noire of all bete noires.
The prince might reflect that he has brought many of his troubles on himself. He will leave with the rightwing press chortling that, for a crusader for personal privacy, he has outed himself much more comprehensively than they ever managed with his rancorous TV interviews about how horrible his family has been to him, his glutinous Netflix series and, most of all, his memoir Spare, with its revelation, among much else, about his frostbitten penis.

Worse still, his obsessive campaign against the tabloid press has dragged other people, most notably Doreen Lawrence, with him into a legal case he was unlikely ever to win. As Mr Justice Nicklin pointed out in his 436-page ruling at the end of the three-month phone-hacking trial, inference and hearsay are not enough: hard evidence is needed. Perhaps his lawyers should have pointed that out and perhaps they did, and he didn’t listen. It was unfortunate that the chief witness, Gavin Burrows, retracted his evidence that he had been paid to hack celebrity phones 20-odd years ago, but without him the case was fatally undermined.
Harry, or his lawyers, should known that newspapers don’t like to be challenged and employ their own legal teams to check details painstakingly closely before publication (the legal director was a former Labour shadow attorney general when I worked there). The Mail simply could not afford to lose, especially against the prince, and it was relentless in fighting the case. No wonder its former editor, Paul Dacre, was crowing on Tuesday night as the paper lavished the story across 11 pages with sententious moralising about the freedom of the press.
The ruling may well kick press regulation further into the weeds, so Harry’s hopes of wielding the simple sword of truth – as Jonathan Aitken, a former, spectacularly unsuccessful litigant against the Guardian, once had it – would seem to be indefinitely delayed. Instead, on 29 July a hearing will begin to give a ruling on the reported £50m legal costs of the action, much more than Harry alone can afford and enough to blast a large hole in Elton John’s bank balance – let alone Doreen Lawrence’s or Simon Hughes’s. Dacre was particularly hurt by Lawrence after the Mail championed the family when their son Stephen was killed by white south London thugs in 1993. There was talk yesterday of an appeal against Nicklin’s judgment, but with the judge having dismissed all 97 allegations against the Mail, this would seem to be wishful thinking.
It is unlikely that King Charles will help to pay his estranged son’s debts as the late Queen apparently did his uncle Andrew’s, after the Virginia Giuffre case. At least, the king may reflect, Harry did not learn the news while staying at Buckingham Palace.
Harry’s rancour against all those he believes have persecuted him have long since cost him most public sympathy, in the UK at least. The world does not see him on his terms. His demands for special treatment, including police protection for his family while he is in Britain, are unlikely to be met while he is not performing royal duties, and his apparent spurning of the offer of a bed in one of the 52 state bedrooms at Buckingham Palace on his current visit will not elicit much understanding.
He seems doomed to eke out a sad life in California, and we may not see either his wife Meghan or his children Archie and Lilibet here any time soon. Maybe the young ones will only see the family realm a decade or more hence if they come backpacking as students – but that might be good for them and the royal family. Perhaps Uncle William will put them up. Time heals.

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One thing is very inaccurate. "He may reflect" he absolutely won't. He never does.

Serenster · 08/07/2026 18:18

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2026 18:06

Quelle surprise Hmm

There was never the least chance that the "balcony shot" was a coincidence, but it's a bit much that Harry tried to suggest he barely knew CG

Just more lies to go with all the rest ..,

And don’t forget the story that the “Sussex sources” were dismayed and upset at the Palace’s breach of trust came out on the day of the Wimbledon finals, when Kate would be appearing. A carefully planned strategy to get themselves in the papers, undermine Charles and grab attention from Kate…

Strawberriesandcaviar · 08/07/2026 18:24

jeffgoldblum · 08/07/2026 15:20

Where is that from @RecoIIectionsMayVary? I’m on the app and I don’t get that!

I'm on a PC and get it, it's really annoying

Rhaidimiddim · 08/07/2026 18:29

Mylovelygreendress · 08/07/2026 16:31

One insult too many': Meghan Markle vows to 'never see' Royal Family again after multiple UK snubs leave Prince Harry 'embarrassed'
Meghan Markle is said to be "furious" after a series of snubs threw Prince Harry's UK visit into confusion and shrouded the Sussexes in humiliation.

2 min read
July 8, 2026 - 2:50PM

Prince Harry has been sent a brutal message by Buckingham Palace, after they announced the Duke of Sussex will not be staying there. This comes despite Harry’s team announcing that the duke had accepted an invitation to do so. Royal sources have indicated Harry had not responded in time to the accommodation offer, thus informing him he would not be able to stay there.
Meghan Markle has vowed to never return to the United Kingdom to see the Royal Family again after a series of complications threw Prince Harry's homecoming into disarray.
It was previously reported that the Duchess of Sussex would be joining her husband for the five-day visit along with their children, Archie, seven, and Lilibet, five, to attend the one year to go Invictus Games events in London and Birmingham.
However, a royal expert has revealed that the 44-year-old has pulled the plug on the plans after Prince Harry was denied taxpayer-funded security for the family and had his accommodation offer from Buckingham Palace withdrawn "at the last moment".

Buckingham Palace has denied Prince Harry will stay there during his trip to the UK, despite the Duke of Sussex saying he had accepted an invitation. Prince Harry’s spokesperson said it was “disappointing that the offer has now been withdrawn” partly because of the impending judgment on the Associated Newspapers Limited case. “It is therefore unclear why, having formally accepted the accommodation offer, it has now been withdrawn at the last moment.”

“This was one insult too many,” Rob Shuter revealed on his Naughty But Nice Substack.
According to the journalist, well-placed sources say that Meghan feels like she and Harry have “bent over backwards" for his relatives, "only to be embarrassed again".
“As far as she’s concerned, she’ll never see them again,” he added.
Shuter says that the Duchess of Sussex had predicted there may be drama surrounding the Prince's UK return and is said to have warned the royal that this would happen.

News Corp columnist Angela Mollard argues Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and Prince Harry have "decimated" the standing of the Royal Family. “They still command audiences and viewers … the issue is when I was reporting on the Royals back in the 90s, the monarchy operated separately to celebrity. Now, it’s like a sort of subset of celebrity,” Ms Mollard told Sky News host James Morrow. “With Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and Harry, the standing of the monarchy in people’s eyes has decimated.”
“She believes every time he reaches out to his family, they find another way to reject him. She’s done. She has no interest in ever putting herself, or her children, through this again.”
On Monday, an official statement revealed that King Charles' son would not be staying at Buckingham Palace, despite Harry's spokesperson, Liam Maguire, announcing just hours earlier that he had accepted his father's invitation.
Well-placed sources claim that Harry did not reply to the Palace's offer before the deadline, and he was told on Saturday that logistics would not allow him to stay there.
According to Buckingham Palace, Harry's representatives formally declined the invitation on Saturday, but pulled a one-eighty on their decision later that day and accepted.

BBC additionally reported that the Palace had concerns about the Duke of Sussex staying at a royal residence around the same time as a result would be published of his court case against Associated Newspapers, which the Prince lost on Tuesday.
To make matters worse, Harry's appeal for taxpayer-funded police protection for him and his family during his five-day stay was denied last month.
The Duke of Sussex's access to police protection was taken away when he and Meghan walked away from royal duties in 2020 and relocated to the United States.
Despite submitting a review into his request for taxpayer-funded security for his family during their upcoming UK trip, Harry's appeal was officially rejected by the Royal and VIP Executive Committee (RAVEC).

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Is that message directed primarily at the RF, do you think, or at her useless husband?

Serenster · 08/07/2026 18:36

"I have 30 years experience of looking behind the curtain, and seeing how the system works and how it runs. I mean, just constant briefings about other members of the family, about favours, inviting the press in. It's a dirty game…There's leaking, but there's also planting of stories….I would far rather get destroyed by the press than play along with this game

Harry, hypocrite and bare-faced liar, in the Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary. Oops.

Looks like the press have chosen destruction this week, Harry.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2026 18:36

Serenster · 08/07/2026 18:18

And don’t forget the story that the “Sussex sources” were dismayed and upset at the Palace’s breach of trust came out on the day of the Wimbledon finals, when Kate would be appearing. A carefully planned strategy to get themselves in the papers, undermine Charles and grab attention from Kate…

I hadn't forgotten, Serenster, but then I set no more store in it than in anything else these idiots come out with

As for the risible "news" that Meghan willl never see the RF again, I see it's the usual "sources", but even if it was true is it really likely they'd want to welcome her?

At least it turns out Harry's still doing something though ... meetings about Invictus at the Royal Hospital Chelsea according to People, though it's disappointing they don't seem to have required him to step down as patron

BreadInCaptivity · 08/07/2026 18:43

Recklessismymiddlename · 08/07/2026 17:13

Thanks for posting.

Very interesting and well worth a listen.

I agree with the point made that many people (including H himself) are still probably underestimating how big a PR (and particularly lifelong reputational impact) this judgement has had.

Not2identifying · 08/07/2026 18:45

This really does feel like his comeuppance. And it's been a long time coming. It was incredibly obvious they were playing juvenile games last year with the photograph of that meeting. The RF had absolutely nothing to gain from stoking the psychodrama. I'm really glad he's been properly outed this week.

I believe every word of that CG article. He brought it on himself. I found it absolutely shocking that he'd put an unknown pill on the tongue of an unknown person as a test when he first met them. He had better PR then but that's appalling conduct. Absolutely no respect for the humanity and personhood of the 'little people'.

What's next for HAM? Wound licking, I can foresee. Self-pity, yes, buckets of that. Beyond that, I really don't know. A return to taking pictures of condiments and the backs of their kids' heads? I think they've done as much (indeed, more) of that than anyone could have expected and surely they've realised the diminishing returns on that approach? Who knows, but I'll be there for it.

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