PR Disasters thread 20

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@DaisyDooley ❤️💐 to you.

There is a warmth and genuine connection that seems often to be missing in Sussex family photos

I guess part of the problem is that the Sussex photos are very contrived as everyone becomes self conscious of standing in their spot, maintaining their pose and making sure the kids don't accidently look at the camera. So it becomes more modelling/acting - like a Boden catalogue shoot.

A beautiful post, @DaisyDooley. I'm sorry for your loss but I'm glad that you found comfort in your dog 💐.
So touching about James Middleton, the poor man, but I really hope that he's in a better place now. In no small part due to his family.
They are very emotionally mature, and meet challenges head on. No life is trouble free, but having people close makes all the difference.
What a lovely, genuine, kind and caring family.

They also regularly grow extra or deformed limbs.

A lot of people come from fractured, dysfunctional families. Me, for one but I put my energy into my children, their other halves and their parents, etc and my very close friends. A lot of people have to make their own family, if you get me.

Meg's Father appears to have been quite a supportive hands on dad, even more than Doria. She doesn't seem to put any value on relationships at all

Agree. And how can Harry say that his kids are more at risk that the actual heir?

Boden catalogue photos might be bland and generic, but they would be aesthetically pleasing and well staged.

The Sussex family photos are just weird.

There is something odd and creepy about HAM family photos xx

The one of Lili kneeling on the floor as a backdrop to her mother's Armani suit was a new low in both senses of the word.

@ShamedBySiri as eloquently and beautifully shared earlier in this thread @ferryl, sadly many of our children have lost a parent in their formative years and as the remaining parent we have just had to get on with it and hope that we can help them get past this trauma to become become the best people they can be. Most will usually not have peers who understand this dynamic, and sleep overs etc with the stereotypical 2 parents can be a minefield. Parents being in a separated is not the same. Ferryl's wonderful children (and mine) have managed to create and move onto a meaningful life and adulthood becaue this is what people have to do. Harry chooses (in my opinion) to hang on to and define himself by his mother' death.

Even by aristocracy standards Charles and Diana had pretty bad childhoods

Charles - the Queen moved abroad for 2 years when he was between one and three to live the carefree life of a junior navy officer's wife in Malta - leaving Charles with her parents and their Edwardian parenting ideas. Then he was shipped off to boarding school at 8.

Diana - witnessed domestic violence from her father towards her mother and had to suffer her parents' extremely bitter and acrimonious divorce and custody war that played out publicly in the press. In those days you could only divorce for cause so the her father sued for adultery, calling Diana's grandmother as a witness against her mother. He demanded full custody of Diana and Charles and when he won, shipped both off to boarding school shortly afterwards with Diana's mother only allowed occasional visitation.

So not very surprising they were not the perfect parents

What kind of a shitshow is it going to be when H does come ? Especially with all his anger at not getting his way

William also did 3 years as an RAF search and rescue pilot on the Welsh coast which must have meant flying in some pretty dangerous conditions.

That was really horrible. That and the one with the poor boy hiding behind a pole

In Meghan’s defence I think she also had a pretty poor blueprint. Thomas Markle was a devoted father to Meghan but not a consistent one. Doria, goodness knows where she went and why. Feast or famine, parents there and not there, it all sounds very unstable.

It seems to me Meghan is acting out the role of loving mother without much clue as to what that means. She’s perpetually in performance mode, which must be exhausting.

Those photos are really touching, what a lovely close family they are, you can’t fake that. The pictures will also cut deep in Montecito, I’ve always thought part of Meghan’s jealousy of Catherine is because she comes from a stable and loving family.

I think that's very true. She doesn't know what a functional normal healthy family life is really.

Those children have missed their Mum even for that short time away . Beautiful photos !

@Ohpleeeease, so much is not known about Meghan's childhood which is absolutely ok. Her father was very successful in his field and Meghan spent a lot of time on set with him and apparently lived with him for many years. It is incredible that in this day and age, no one seems to have any understanding of what went on in her childhood, where Doria was etc. I am totally fine with that-none of my business. But how the hell this remains so unknown is quote unusual.

I was genuinely shocked when I saw the photo of Lili kneeling at her mother's feet. I thought it had to be AI. It wasn't.

The fact that this is how she chose to promote her trip to Switzerland to speak about the dangers of social media for children just makes it all the more weird.

Well, she watches Catherine like a flaming hawk. You’d think she might have picked up a few tips…

I don't think TM was inconsistent was he ? She was very gushing about him until she me H. Doria was missing for quite long periods in Meg's childhood. Inexplicable. Fair enough, the half brother and sister are horrendous but when did that relationship break down ?

Those pics are lovely. The one of William and Catherine hugging is really touching.

Meg could have had some lovely relationships within the RF. even if they did leave and forged a life without being absolutely vile about them. She could have become friends with C, supported them when C was ill. Zara, c, Meghan and the yorks, all similar ages. Plenty of relationships could have been forged but she destroyed it

She seems to have a very warped way of looking at things.