PR Disasters thread 20

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I did read the Windsor demand from another commentator too so am inclined to believe there might be some truth in that especially as H and M wanted to live in Windsor Castle post wedding .

They would be committing criminal offences in the UK

But how would he know? Genuine question. I’d love to know how these people know anything tbh.

Mind you we now know, that Harry, has been feeding certain journalists, information last week, as they are now fuming it was a load of lies. Funnily enough exactly what he blamed the royal family for. Couldn’t make it up eh, Harry?!

There's your answer. We know that Harry can't keep quiet and he leaks to tabloids all the time. That's the source.

Well exactly , it’s clear that Harry and/ or Meghan have been planting stories for years . It’s the written equivalent of Meghan tipping off the paps when she is going for a “ hike” on Coronation Day.

Obviously
gosh I’m thick without my first coffee of the day 🙈

But how would he know?

He wouldn't. He's an engagement farming hack. And it works.

There are some 'journalists' who do get genuine 'leaks' from the Sussexes. But Neil Sean is not one of them. I doubt he knows much more than you or I. So much stuff out there on social media is simply made up.

So predictable!

I also wonder if Invictus are finally ‘reading the room’ somewhat and asking Harry to do the Invictus stuff alone without Meghan ?

The optics and criticism of Invictus supporting the Harry & Meghan show, and now Invictus being hit with the accusation by Harry that Invictus events are a target for a terrorist attack because of Harry’s presence, they must be scrambling to try to claw back some / any credibility and reputational damage.

IG need to offload the pair of them.

If security was my number 1 priority, no WAY would I be demanding helicopters.

I can well believe they wanted Windsor, for a variety of reasons, most of which would be exactly why they wouldn't be given Windsor. I would expect William to veto that in no uncertain terms. I recall when they were here, staying at Frogmore Cottage during the period leading up to The Queen's funeral, there was a photo of William stopping to talk to Harry as their cars passed going in/out of the park. The last thing William would want would be to bump into either of those two, or for his family to have to get out of the way while Harry's motorcade barrels down the road.
A dusty apartment at the back of Buckingham palace it is. And don't forget to sew name tags into your underwear if you want laundry doing while you are here! 🤗😂😂😂

As for the will they/won't they visit Diana's grave, whilst it would be unkind of Earl Spencer not to allow Harry to visit her grave, I don't see why he should be expected to have the entourage to stay, and entertain them for a weekend or even lunch. If he were agreeable to offer to host them I would think he would

1. want to know his invitation has been accepted and 2. demand total secrecy.

The whole they might or they might not must be mightily pissing him off and I think probably means they won't. He is one person who I think could get on the blower and give Harry an icy blast of home truths. And withdraw any invitation that exists. Plus of course he won't allow any photography. He should put an extra padlock on those gates and tell him to stay away because...security. (In this instance highly relevant).

"Total secrecy"
That's the very opposite of how the Sussexes operate.

True but in that case the Earl would be entirely within his rights to say No Visit then. Why should his privacy and security be compromised? I wouldn’t allow Meghan access to the grave either. She never knew Diana. She isn’t family. I just wouldn’t allow it.

Wanting Windsor - what do they think this is ? Disneyland? 😂😂😂

The Hamlets ! 😂😂

Harry has a bespoke arrangement whereby, with 28 days' notice (to allow for assessment time and employment law requirements) he has an up-to-date security assessment and the security provided that he is considered to require based on that assessment.

It is insulting to the professionals involved, who are the most skilled in their specialism and have access to the most recent intelligence, to suggest that they would not do a thorough job.

The King cannot intervene in matters of security. It is also well established that police security cannot be bought. If it could, there would be plenty of billionaires in London who would attempt it.

My only comment on Harry's service is that he is currently doing a dis-service to the veterans associated with Invictus, who are lost in his temper tantrums.

I think Neil Sean is spot on about Windsor, and he will have been fed it by Palace sources who are exasperated on the King’s behalf that this has become such a shit-show and that Harry’s entitlement is the sticking point.

How do they think Windsor is more secure than BP or any of the KP choices? It's all about adjacency and the opportunity to be seen with other members of the RF, isn't it? To be seen as being back in the fold.
I wouldn't put it past them to just rock up at the Wales' door as if nothing has happened. I think M is brazen enough and H is thick and entitled enough.

They don't, @Butteredtoast55, because it's not about security. It's status.

Haha yes - Buckingham Palace is too famous and recognisable, we’ll have Windsor Castle instead - so nondescript and discreet, nobody even knows it’s there 🤦‍♀️

Depends in the perceived threat, which we don't know.

There are certainly good reasons for using them from a security POV in certain circumstances, but probably hard to use security to justify using one to e.g. London>Brum and return

It's definitely about adjacency. They will want to spin the narrative that Project Thaw is happening, and that their paths might have crossed with William and Kate given the proximity and that all was dandy. Where do you think the stories in the US came from this week that Kate was apparently pushing William to make peace with Harry and was desperate for her kids to meet their cousins? Utter bollocks from the Sussex camp again.

No way!!! Where are you reading those stories, @Passingthrough123 ?

Can you imagine the trauma some of the veterans might be suffering on reading the headlines that the event could be a terrorist target? The idea they could end up in another bomb blast? It's so irresponsible of Harry to leak that possibility for the sake of positive press when these veterans have already experienced so many horrors.