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William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs

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SpaEnjoyer · 25/06/2026 16:24

I read this article in the DM which was originally brought to my attention by my MIL, who has a very keen interest in goings-on involving the RF.

'His absences have not gone unnoticed': Norman Baker asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up https://mol.im/a/15908021

I must admit I was surprised to learn that William has attended fewer events than KC and Anne over the last 3 years. I agree with the sentiment that he needs to step up to ease the burden on his father.

NORMAN BAKER asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up

He might be a present husband and father, but when it comes to carrying out royal duties, the Prince of Wales is 'workshy', a royal expert has claimed.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15908021/His-absences-not-gone-unnoticed-NORMAN-BAKER-asks-workshy-William-going-step-reveals-number-engagements-carried-far-year-future-King.html

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jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 13:54

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/06/2026 13:51

Exactly what I was thinking 😱

Ohh ! The horror!!!

Jim Carrey Omg GIF
NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 27/06/2026 13:55

For comparison

William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs
MrsLeonFarrell · 27/06/2026 13:57

noonames · 27/06/2026 13:53

My contribution to the debate:

Off topic, why do court artists make everyone look the same? It's a very specific style isn't it and no one ever comes out looking nice.

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 13:57

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 27/06/2026 13:55

For comparison

Yep! I mean yes completely scruffy and unkempt the poster has a point……………………..

noonames · 27/06/2026 14:00

I don’t find William particularly attractive but omg he looks great in a suit, the tailoring is 🤌

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 14:13

@NotTalkinBoutTheLineni took the initiative to open the article! I’m assuming this is the picture of William that is being referenced!
yes very scruffy wearing royal dress robes!

William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs
NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 27/06/2026 14:15

Not scruffy.

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:38

The constant stream of excuses of this lazy pairings is exhausting.

Using a 2024 health issue as a shield for Catherine's laziness is disrespectful to those who actually work through real, debilitating illnesses. Similarly, the parenting defense doesn't hold up—most people manage their careers while raising children, and that’s not even accounting for them sending their children to boarding school. They can’t have it both ways; if they don't want the responsibilities of public service, they should step back and live as private citizens, there's nothing wrong with being a housewife who does 18 events by year and house daddy as long they don't act entitled living from tax payers.

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 17:41

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:38

The constant stream of excuses of this lazy pairings is exhausting.

Using a 2024 health issue as a shield for Catherine's laziness is disrespectful to those who actually work through real, debilitating illnesses. Similarly, the parenting defense doesn't hold up—most people manage their careers while raising children, and that’s not even accounting for them sending their children to boarding school. They can’t have it both ways; if they don't want the responsibilities of public service, they should step back and live as private citizens, there's nothing wrong with being a housewife who does 18 events by year and house daddy as long they don't act entitled living from tax payers.

Describing cancer as a health issue!
saying cancer is not a real debilitating illness!
I have no words to describe what I think about this post that would not get me deleted!

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:44

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 17:41

Describing cancer as a health issue!
saying cancer is not a real debilitating illness!
I have no words to describe what I think about this post that would not get me deleted!

I’ve had cancer myself; it is a serious physical health issue, not a narrative to be managed or used to excuse everything or lack of work ethics. I’m speaking from lived experience here. Have a good day.

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2026 17:48

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:44

I’ve had cancer myself; it is a serious physical health issue, not a narrative to be managed or used to excuse everything or lack of work ethics. I’m speaking from lived experience here. Have a good day.

So have I ! And I didn’t use it as a shield to enable me to say hateful comments about other sufferers !
I don’t wish you a good day!

Lunde · 27/06/2026 18:09

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:44

I’ve had cancer myself; it is a serious physical health issue, not a narrative to be managed or used to excuse everything or lack of work ethics. I’m speaking from lived experience here. Have a good day.

But of course we know is Catherine's case it wasn't "just" cancer. She underwent surgery for a different condition and cancer was unexpectedly discovered during that surgery. But we have no idea what ongoing treatment she is having for the original condition.

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 18:25

Lunde · 27/06/2026 18:09

But of course we know is Catherine's case it wasn't "just" cancer. She underwent surgery for a different condition and cancer was unexpectedly discovered during that surgery. But we have no idea what ongoing treatment she is having for the original condition.

The " we don't know what's going on" defense is becoming a permanent shield and people see through it. She has been in remission since 2025, and in the real world, that signifies a return to normal professional life. People like me, Charles and most working people maintain a full workload throughout own cancer treatment, which makes the constant excuses for her absence almost two years later, hollow. The other issue is that this lack of work ethic predates her diagnosis. I fear that even 10 years from now, her fans will still be using the cancer and children excuses to deflect from their lack of duty. If they cant or won't do duties like normal adults, they should step down and become private citizens, there's nothing wrong with that.

The irony is that they talk so much about modernizing the monarchy, but they are clinging to a medieval level of untouchability. In any other high level role, in politics or business, a decade of underperformance followed by a health crisis leads to a reevaluation of the role and often a resignation. Why does this institution insist on exempting itself from the basic accountability that every other sector demands?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/06/2026 18:26

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 17:44

I’ve had cancer myself; it is a serious physical health issue, not a narrative to be managed or used to excuse everything or lack of work ethics. I’m speaking from lived experience here. Have a good day.

Was your narrative complicated?

Lunde · 27/06/2026 19:54

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 18:25

The " we don't know what's going on" defense is becoming a permanent shield and people see through it. She has been in remission since 2025, and in the real world, that signifies a return to normal professional life. People like me, Charles and most working people maintain a full workload throughout own cancer treatment, which makes the constant excuses for her absence almost two years later, hollow. The other issue is that this lack of work ethic predates her diagnosis. I fear that even 10 years from now, her fans will still be using the cancer and children excuses to deflect from their lack of duty. If they cant or won't do duties like normal adults, they should step down and become private citizens, there's nothing wrong with that.

The irony is that they talk so much about modernizing the monarchy, but they are clinging to a medieval level of untouchability. In any other high level role, in politics or business, a decade of underperformance followed by a health crisis leads to a reevaluation of the role and often a resignation. Why does this institution insist on exempting itself from the basic accountability that every other sector demands?

Edited

Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension. She is in remission from cancer - but probably not from the underlying condition. Are you really advocating breaching the Equalities Act to discriminate against a disabled person by forcing them from their role?

Charles is a well known workaholic. The staff have talked about it and Camilla kept her former home at Ray Mill House so she can escape from time to time. Harry in particular has criticized his distant father - are you saying that William and Harry should follow this role model?

The older royal generations also chose time away from their kids in a way that William and Catherine have not - is this something you advocate as well?
Charles and Diana chose to send their kids to boarding school at the age of 8 to be holidays-only parents.
QEII and Prince Phillip chose to live in Malta for 2 years (with the Queen undertaking no work) and left their kids in the UK.

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 20:45

ThatAvidViewer · 27/06/2026 13:34

No, it's people like you who should take note. William has repeatedly said they don't want to continue the old model of hundreds of patronages that receive only brief visits—or no visits at all. They want fewer patronages but much greater involvement, which also makes sense with a smaller working Royal Family.

And when the late Queen said she had to "be seen to be believed," it was a very different era. There was no social media, and people rarely saw members of the Royal Family unless they appeared in person or on television. Every generation adapts to the times, and William and Catherine are doing things differently.

Discontinuing the ineffective patronages we've long been disingenuously assured is one of the key reasons for keeping the royals is one thing but W hasn't convincingly demonstrated 'greater involvement' with any other project than squeezing his duchy income until the pips fall out.

It's a bit of a reach to suggest the royals were beyond the reach of mainstream media before the internet age.

The first fly on the wall TV documentary was screened in 1969 and press interest intensified from then on.

corblimeygvnr · 27/06/2026 20:50

Windsandstars · 27/06/2026 18:25

The " we don't know what's going on" defense is becoming a permanent shield and people see through it. She has been in remission since 2025, and in the real world, that signifies a return to normal professional life. People like me, Charles and most working people maintain a full workload throughout own cancer treatment, which makes the constant excuses for her absence almost two years later, hollow. The other issue is that this lack of work ethic predates her diagnosis. I fear that even 10 years from now, her fans will still be using the cancer and children excuses to deflect from their lack of duty. If they cant or won't do duties like normal adults, they should step down and become private citizens, there's nothing wrong with that.

The irony is that they talk so much about modernizing the monarchy, but they are clinging to a medieval level of untouchability. In any other high level role, in politics or business, a decade of underperformance followed by a health crisis leads to a reevaluation of the role and often a resignation. Why does this institution insist on exempting itself from the basic accountability that every other sector demands?

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I'm interested to know what you seem to think is a suitable work load for Catherine. You seem to know a great deal so perhaps you can outline exactly what she has done this past year and what you think she should have done?

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 20:51

Charles is a well known workaholic.

Charles has been shown to work around seven FTE weeks a year.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/part-time-king-charles-works-just-seven-weeks-in-a-year-357184/

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/06/2026 21:01

Goodness, not only does Graham Smith dress like a lemon, he sounds as bitter as one too 🤣

William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs
corblimeygvnr · 27/06/2026 21:02

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 20:45

Discontinuing the ineffective patronages we've long been disingenuously assured is one of the key reasons for keeping the royals is one thing but W hasn't convincingly demonstrated 'greater involvement' with any other project than squeezing his duchy income until the pips fall out.

It's a bit of a reach to suggest the royals were beyond the reach of mainstream media before the internet age.

The first fly on the wall TV documentary was screened in 1969 and press interest intensified from then on.

Press interest intensified after 1969? What on Earth are you saying ? 3 TV channels in 1969. Most people didn't even have a phone at home. I lived abroad in the 1980s and we waited for airmail editions of the Telegraph for news from the UK. We relied on a fax machine for info. Maybe you're very young not to appreciate how social media has changed the world. The Queen did 266 visits during her reign to 117 countries. She travelled over 1 million miles as a representative of the UK.

corblimeygvnr · 27/06/2026 21:05

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 20:51

Charles is a well known workaholic.

Charles has been shown to work around seven FTE weeks a year.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/part-time-king-charles-works-just-seven-weeks-in-a-year-357184/

No he has not. This is what Graham Smith claims. It's like people talking about how teachers only work 9-3 and get all those holidays.

BrandiedAromatics · 27/06/2026 21:09

corblimeygvnr · 27/06/2026 21:02

Press interest intensified after 1969? What on Earth are you saying ? 3 TV channels in 1969. Most people didn't even have a phone at home. I lived abroad in the 1980s and we waited for airmail editions of the Telegraph for news from the UK. We relied on a fax machine for info. Maybe you're very young not to appreciate how social media has changed the world. The Queen did 266 visits during her reign to 117 countries. She travelled over 1 million miles as a representative of the UK.

You are right it is different now - but that is the point. Three quarters of the population of the UK watched that royal film and then hundreds of millions around the world. I didn't know the Queen had it pulled. It was talked about al lot - I remember the Royal It's A Knock Out which was also huge at the time. Not in a good way.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 27/06/2026 21:10

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 20:51

Charles is a well known workaholic.

Charles has been shown to work around seven FTE weeks a year.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/part-time-king-charles-works-just-seven-weeks-in-a-year-357184/

I’m so disappointed here.

You’ve posted an article that presents a highly biased and flawed analysis based on a single source with no attempt at verification or attempt to seek info from the royal household or any neutral party. It completely omits numerous other factors that should be considered.

These are Republic’s interpretations, not verified facts. It’s not a serious article.

Come on.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 27/06/2026 21:12

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/06/2026 21:01

Goodness, not only does Graham Smith dress like a lemon, he sounds as bitter as one too 🤣

It’s hard to take him seriously. Looks like he’s coming off a bender.

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2026 21:14

corblimeygvnr · 27/06/2026 21:02

Press interest intensified after 1969? What on Earth are you saying ? 3 TV channels in 1969. Most people didn't even have a phone at home. I lived abroad in the 1980s and we waited for airmail editions of the Telegraph for news from the UK. We relied on a fax machine for info. Maybe you're very young not to appreciate how social media has changed the world. The Queen did 266 visits during her reign to 117 countries. She travelled over 1 million miles as a representative of the UK.

Yet somehow 19m managed to watch the rather drearily prolonged coverage of the investiture of the Prince of Wales at home with another 500m round the world tuning in:

https://www.bbc.com/historyofthebbc/anniversaries/july/investiture-of-the-prince-of-wales

I can't comment on the preponderance of fax coverage from abroad not having been there but press coverage in the UK undoubtedly intensified especially especially as royal divorces, separations and Ferg related misdeeds accumulated.

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