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The royal family

PR Disasters, chapter 13

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AtIusvue · 18/05/2026 15:57

Meg and Harry and all their PR shenanigans

Trigger Warning: this thread may contain talk about sleeves.

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Starryfifty · Today 15:59

IcedPurple · Today 15:55

I think intellectually she's probably about average. No more no less. She did manage to get a degree from a respected uni, but she's shown absolutely no intellectual curiosity and frankly comes across as rather vapid. The only context in which she might be seen as clever is in contrast to her husband, and frankly that ain't hard. The mere fact that she married him shows she's nothing special. Clever women don't marry dumb men.

She married him for his title. Simple. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Her bullshitting that she didn't know who he was was quite frankly insulting

SqueakyDinosaur · Today 16:00

Starryfifty · Today 15:59

She married him for his title. Simple. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Her bullshitting that she didn't know who he was was quite frankly insulting

Oh god, yes, the engagement interview was so cringey - the doe-eyed pretence at never having heard of him, saying she only wanted to know if he was KIND....

Indianrollerbird · Today 16:02

PoppysAunt · Today 15:06

She shouldn't have said it. She shouldn't have clearly stated that these were 7 terrible years, as she has 2 healthy children. She's so focussed on being a victim, she doesn't consider what the broader impact of her negative outlook is.

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Absolutely this.

Lunde · Today 16:05

RecoIIectionsMayVary · Today 15:31

There are posters on here who report regretting having children, or say having children has been the most difficult thing in their life.

It might be a taboo but it certainly happens. I'm not saying this is the case, just that I can believe for one minute that children are not for all, a blessing.

I'm sure there are many parents who think this but most would not say it publicly where they know it will be picked up by the media and preserved for posterity.

Butteredtoast55 · Today 16:08

Oh that little video of the wedding makes me sad. It was such a happy day and they both seem really happy together. What a shame that their monumental hubris, bitterness and narcissism have brought them to where they are now.

Bigcat25 · Today 16:09

SqueakyDinosaur · Today 16:00

Oh god, yes, the engagement interview was so cringey - the doe-eyed pretence at never having heard of him, saying she only wanted to know if he was KIND....

Her ex husband is reportedly very kind, if that's all it takes. Anyways, he's turned down many offers to tell his side of the story.

wordler · Today 16:10

corblimeygvnr · Today 15:38

It's her maybe saying look at what I was subjected to ...waaah! The Wales were difficult then ...waaah! I wasn't respected ...waaah!

Something odd had happened - if you compare to Eugenia’s wedding where George and Charlotte just mixed in with the other bridesmaids and pageboys at the end and didn’t need to be with their parents.

Catherine who was only four weeks postpartum also went in the car with Charlotte to the chapel - unlike Eugenie’s wedding where she just went to the chapel with William and let the kids be chaperoned by others.

It’s as though she didn’t want to leave Charlotte alone.

StrawberryWasp · Today 16:14

Butteredtoast55 · Today 16:08

Oh that little video of the wedding makes me sad. It was such a happy day and they both seem really happy together. What a shame that their monumental hubris, bitterness and narcissism have brought them to where they are now.

The thing about the wedding though is we were all very happy watching it on the telly, and they seemed happy, but the fractures were already there in the family we just didn't know it.

The family must have been thinking 'bloody hell if only they knew' when we were all waving our flags and having tea parties.

HayfeverComethAndThatRightSoon · Today 16:14

BasiliskStare · Today 15:07

What I am about to say could be seen as intellectual snobbery. But - hear me out before you report my post as an Ad hominem attack.

I think , even by his mother , H has never been thought academically clever. The 2 Ds, the lack of intellectual curiosity during school , the various reports he wouldn't pass the exams to rise higher in military ranks.

Now , I think being academic isn't a virtue, it's to some extent innate. I do think that higher education , does , even at the most ground floor level , teach analysis . Harry seems to base all his arguments on personal experience. Are they valid? I think so , but only if tempered with more thoughtfulness and deeper thinking. & this is why I think H gets annoyed when people question him , because he possibly hasn't got the tools to engage in a decent argument. So he falls back on "right?" in interviews or appearing to think that because of who he is what he says is worth listening to.

I may have explained that badly. To be clear there are other ways of being "intelligent". Some of the people I know who have done best in their careers don't have double firsts etc - but they have a way of dealing with people , street smarts , common sense , and a work ethic. So I am not saying intellect is the best thing , but an ability to see outside your own experience / bubble / is something valuable.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with not being academic, plenty of very successful people had to work their arses off at school for mediocre results. There are plenty of other forms of intelligence which these people tend to have in abundance.
Harry's problem is that he's thick as shit. The only thing he's good at is sport, and he's gone and married someone who doesn't appear to have a sporty bone in her body, and not even any interest in it.

OriginalPedant · Today 16:16

Butteredtoast55 · Today 16:08

Oh that little video of the wedding makes me sad. It was such a happy day and they both seem really happy together. What a shame that their monumental hubris, bitterness and narcissism have brought them to where they are now.

I don’t get this comment.

’Where they are now?’ Is this a bad thing? They’re living what seems to be very happily in a lovely place. They’ve escaped the awful Royal Family and the nasty British Press.

Why do people see what isn’t there? It’s pure spite.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 16:19

Bigcat25 · Today 16:09

Her ex husband is reportedly very kind, if that's all it takes. Anyways, he's turned down many offers to tell his side of the story.

Yes, and his refusals say a lot about his integrity - something his ex wife and her latest husband would do well to learn from

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:21

OriginalPedant · Today 16:16

I don’t get this comment.

’Where they are now?’ Is this a bad thing? They’re living what seems to be very happily in a lovely place. They’ve escaped the awful Royal Family and the nasty British Press.

Why do people see what isn’t there? It’s pure spite.

Oh dear !

Lunde · Today 16:25

notimagain · Today 15:31

My take on this is that whilst H may be inclined to lazyness and being aimless he didn't get through military flying training (which despite all the rumours he did, unlike many graduates) or his later command upgrade by being completely thick, or having a low IQ....but he benefitted from being in a structured environment, and no doubt having someone, possibly a mature SNCO, kicking his backside.

Like many others who went through the military he eventually left that environment in his early thirties but unlike many others, who built succesful second careers, H seemed he had no real plan, other than being a Royal and seemingly being with MM.

I suspect as a result he then regressed to the seemingly lazy, aimless individual we see now....add in maybe a bit of Californian weed and he is where he is now.

It would have been interesting to see how he would have turned out if he'd left the Forces and at least dabbled in a structured civilian job, even if only briefly, before MM came along, but we'll never know.

I think the army suited Harry as a structured environment where he didn't have to think and plan for himself. I think he should have stayed longer in the Army but he was difficult for them to place. But I expect he could have done something like Invictus from within the Army. There was a guy I knew at Uni who had been in boarding school since the age of 7 and was unable to function outside of that sort of structure - he was unable to plan his studies and knew nothing about money - once spending 2 months of living expenses on diamond jewellery for a girl he met a fortnight before - to compensate he tried to live on baked potatoes but damaged the cooker when they exploded (he didn't know you needed to prick them). When he failed his courses he left - to join the Army!

But I agree Harry should have got some experience of some sort of civilian work. He could have had an estate to run - Charles wanted to gift him one after marriage but they turned it down. Or, with a good team around him, he could have done something involving breeding/training horses - polo ponies or race horses - where playing polo or attending the Ascot could be written off as work.

I think celebrity TV/media development was the worst idea as he had no experience or particular talent for developing ideas or knowing what people would watch - some of his "ideas" sounded like teenage fantasies - like a podcast interviewing Trump and Putin about their childhood trauma.

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 16:28

OriginalPedant · Today 16:16

I don’t get this comment.

’Where they are now?’ Is this a bad thing? They’re living what seems to be very happily in a lovely place. They’ve escaped the awful Royal Family and the nasty British Press.

Why do people see what isn’t there? It’s pure spite.

Why are the Royal family awful?

I agree about the press.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:31

OriginalPedant · Today 16:16

I don’t get this comment.

’Where they are now?’ Is this a bad thing? They’re living what seems to be very happily in a lovely place. They’ve escaped the awful Royal Family and the nasty British Press.

Why do people see what isn’t there? It’s pure spite.

Think it’s time ….

PR Disasters, chapter 13
IcedPurple · Today 16:44

HayfeverComethAndThatRightSoon · Today 16:14

There's absolutely nothing wrong with not being academic, plenty of very successful people had to work their arses off at school for mediocre results. There are plenty of other forms of intelligence which these people tend to have in abundance.
Harry's problem is that he's thick as shit. The only thing he's good at is sport, and he's gone and married someone who doesn't appear to have a sporty bone in her body, and not even any interest in it.

What sport is Harry good at? I've never seen him take part in any sport in any serious way. He doesn't even seem to have much of an interest in sports. Certainly nothing compared to William's love for Villa.

HayfeverComethAndThatRightSoon · Today 16:51

IcedPurple · Today 16:44

What sport is Harry good at? I've never seen him take part in any sport in any serious way. He doesn't even seem to have much of an interest in sports. Certainly nothing compared to William's love for Villa.

He's an excellent skier and horse rider. (We may not necessarily approve of polo, but it requires a high level of horsemanship besides other skills.) He was a massive rugby fan as well.

Indianrollerbird · Today 17:10

I heard someone say recently (possibly Hugo Vickers) that Princess Anne really rates Harry’s horse skills, and he could have followed in her footsteps.

Justdancevance · Today 17:44

Meghan is very good at sucking up to people she deems important, and punching down on those she seems less so.

Not skills I’d like to have myself

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