PR Disasters, chapter 13

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Meg and Harry and all their PR shenanigans

Trigger Warning: this thread may contain talk about sleeves.

I agree. I dread to think what will happen to him and his mental health if and when he sees what we are all seeing. He is an idiot but I don't wish him harm.

I've just looked on Insta, and even the music is 'forever your girl' .

It must sting seeing his brother having a great time at the football surrounded by childhood friends . Surely in these moments he must doubt his decisions. We all love the warm feeling we experience on these occasions.

I can only hope you're right, Starryfifty - though if so someone should tell his face - but the future of the relationship isn't just up to him and I really don't see this ending well

I'm sure it stings. Which is so wrong. This is his brother but H seems so full of hatred. If ever there was a poor advert for therapy, it's Harry

Plus William's friendships are so obviously genuine, and not transactional.
When people like the Duke of Westminster, the Clooneys, the Beckhams, Peter Phillips etc have to choose, they choose the royals over H&M.

I wonder what life is like for the children, living with Meghan desperately trying to compete with the royals, and Harry’s poor mental health and paranoia. Taught that the world is unsafe, kept from their extended families, photographed for insta but never their faces, parents away a lot, ugh it’s so weird. And what’s to come for them - all the revelations in Spare and the NF series, their mother suicidal while pregnant and their father not helping her, the obsession with Diana, all the lies. And then they’ll have to try and make sense of being and not being part of the royal family. OMG it’s a lot.

I often wonder what will happen when they read "Spare".
Awful.

Not to mention the 7 years that Archie has been alive being declared by his mother as being the worst of her life.

Oh my god, that's just so sad.

You left out the bit about the last 7 years - which almost exactly coincide with Archie's life - being the worst of Meghan's, nonames

I can't think what reading that will do to him one day, but then it appears Meghan hasn't thought of it either, or if she has that she doesn't care

Edited to say sorry, @Indianrollerbird - I cross posted with you

And no better for Lilibet, her life has been her mum's worst years.

Yes, I often think the same.

It's one thing moving to your wife's country. People do that all the time. But they usually don't completely sever ties with almost all family and friends in their home country. That's what Harry has done. And unlike most expats, he's has no shortage of time or money, so could fly back to Britain pretty much as often as he likes, with a choice of secure royal residences to stay at. His children could have grown up with the love of their extended family, and an appreciation of their unique heritage.

Instead, he has a sad life in country where basically he's just another C lister, doomed to be an extra in his wife's twerking videos and desperately chasing after any renmant of his royal status. Nobody can convince me that this is the life he wanted.

Meg is a dye in the wool malignant narcissist. I'm no psychiatrist but it's glaringly obvious and it's genuinely terrifying to watch.

I'm sure there are quite a few of us women here (me included) who suffered dreadful PND after having our children. I would never let my children know for fear it may impact them.

When I was very little (I'm old now so this is History!) I had a record called Charlie Chester's Featherbed Fairy Tales. The only line I can remember from it is "You had so much, and you threw it all away". That's what goes through my head re MM and, especially, Harry.

It is a genuinely awful, sad story. He was loved and protected and had a purpose in life, and now he is/has none of those things. If he didn't behave like a petulant, entitled arsehole, I would feel desperately sorry for him.

That's what bothers me most @noonames.

Harry and Meghan are adults and have choices; they also have resources (that millions of others don't) to find help if they want it.

The children don't have those choices. We obviously only see a miniscule portion of their lives, but we do see how their parents behave, and we have seen all the evidence you have mentioned that they will see in the future.

I hope and pray that they have some adults around them (perhaps the nannies, or parents of friends) that will provide stability as they grow up.

I do agree with others , Harry is absolutely convinced of his "specialness". cf him ( security court case ) this is a position I was born into . "I have a platform because of my position" ( wildly paraphrasing) "I am a member of the RF and I am working ( paraphrase again ) - Ukraine trip. He doesn't appreciate , I think , it was the position which was special , not him. I don't think he wants to let it go , but equally he didn't want the strictures of being in the RF. That's a circle I am not sure he can ever square. At the moment he is an , at least publicly , an estranged scion. He has the title but none of the credentials/advice/ support by virtue of being the WRF. I don't think he deliberately shoots down his specialness. I think he just doesn't know how to cope without a great deal of help and guardianship around him. So - behave like a cheeky Chappy - that used to work - Royal Tours - those used to work. Very different though when what you essentially now are is a " celebrity" by virtue of who your father is , and you don't have BP running defence for you.

The next time H wangs on about how he's taken steps to make sure the "generational pain" or whatever he calls it isn't passed to A&L, I would absolutely love someone to ask him exactly how he thinks what he and M have done has furthered that goal.

Mind you, he doesn't take well to questioning - look at the Anderson Cooper interview, which was mostly extremely softball, but when he was asked why they didn't renounce the titles he instantly got extremely arsey.

Nannies are staff unfortunately and move on. Doria seems quite grounded but must abide by her daughter's wishes or are won't have a relationship with her grandchildren

Same with the interview with Tom Bradby, when the latter dared to ask about the accusations that the RF were racist. He got arsey and said they'd never accused them, it was the "UK press".
Neither of them will ever answer to anything.

That's partly what made the last lot of court coverage so gripping - it's the only situation in which he has to answer questions as put, and he got quite a ticking-off from the judge for not doing so and grandstanding instead.

Yes, that was very satisfying!

So items have started to reach their sell by date. This was from EBay (US site)

All her jams listed are all summer ‘27 ….there are a couple that are autumn ‘27. It looks to me that people aren’t putting much eBay anymore (in part because there’s no rush on products anymore) but this summer 27 date has been around since she launched the jams. I don’t think there’s been any new stock.

It would be interesting to know what the exp date is on stuff coming from As ever. If it’s the same dates, then it’s just the same batch of stuff that’s been sitting around for a year.

A crepe mix ??? Surely any old idiot can make pancake mix

Thank you

I disagree with the article that "Harry doesn't want to be special" - Harry, on the contrary, automatically assumes his superiority and "specialness" by virtue of being born a prince. Even though he claims to have hated royal life, he looks most comfortable these days when he is imitating solo royal engagements.

However, I do agree that he doesn't want to be "special" according to Meghan's celebrity definition through faked show and tell "Harry at home" photoshoots and staged events for the paps.