AMW continuing his effort to end the monarchy part 4

[simpsonthecat]

New thread. This is not ending

Yes, indeed!!

Which is lucky because without the current AMW outrageousness, Republics campaigning had been awful under the leadership of Graham Smith - he’s a terrible spokesperson optics-wise.

They need someone much more likable and charismatic to be the visible face - and a campaign that shows the positive future facing republic - people are so disillusioned with politicians at the moment that all you can visualise when you think of an alternative head of state is either a corrupt career politician or a boring non-descript person.

What replaces the fun, whimsy and colorfulness of the historical pageantry in the republic - I want pictures painted of how things will look and function. That’s the campaigning which would push me towards a republic.

Thanks for the link.

I took a look and could see the article even though I'm not subscribed. Very detailed on how the Windsors have successfully managed to hide ever more detail and lots of blurring of lines in doing so.

I think though it's an extract from 'Royal Mint,National Debt'?

That's a book I'd really like to see the waving, cheering, protest drowning God Save the Kingers read, absorb and comment on.

Absolutely!
To see it set out like this in an article makes it all quite shocking!
Anyone who thinks the palace is getting more transparent needs their head read!

It is getting beyond a joke to be honest

The Duchies, their wealth, their wills, it's all beyond a joke
Royal wealth and income is classified as private again and again. All shielded from public scrutiny of any sort

There are ongoing demands for greater financial openness, with a Constitunional Society Poll indicating that a majority of the British public believes that these opaque financial aspects should be publicly accessible.

I wonder when the dam will burst. I thought AMW would do it. Obviously not

But there will be something, we just have to wait

I think the placards with pictures that include any of the victims are horrible - it feels like further exploitation of them.

Do you mean the placard with Virginia Giuffre?

That picture has been in the public domain for years and is regularly reprinted. It wasn't obtained by deceit. She handed it over to the MoS willingly.

It's not exploitative IMO to remind the world of the wrongs done to her by the Palace machine in the interests of protecting the odious MW.

What replaces the fun, whimsy and colorfulness of the historical pageantry in the republic - I want pictures painted of how things will look and function. That’s the campaigning which would push me towards a republic.

No reason the pomp can't be repurposed for a republic. Other countries manage (Bastille Day in France for example).

I'm sure it's not beyond our capabilities to root out an appropriate date or two a year to roll out a military parade, band and associated bling.

If that's all that stopping you despite the mounting revelations of royal duplicity are you in ?

Unless you have been to Bastille Day in France, to say you would be missing the pageantry is a joke!
I've been there, they roll it all out big time, as much as us, if not more

There were 2 placards I was referring to:

One had the picture of AMW with Virginia Giuffre
The second had the picture of AMW apparently kneeling over a young woman/girl

Neither of those people will have consented to the use of their image for a political campaign.

I will add that I'm equally uncomfortable with the repeated use of photos of victims (in this case or other cases) by tabloid newspapers for no other reason than to sell papers/clicks, even when there hasn't been a significant update in a story.

It’s absolutely not the only thing (I’ve explained many many times my personal feelings about monarchy vs republic) and yes, I’m sure there are wonderful ways of celebrating without a monarchy.

My point is that Republic’s campaigning has no light and shade. It is so joyless and negative.

People need to feel they are moving towards something positive to get behind a movement in big numbers.

A big ‘off with their heads’ exciting, bloody revolution (which brings on crowd / peer following) won’t work in the modern world.

Republic are (in my opinion) doing a really poor job of selling the idea of the UK as a republic. And for me part of that is Graham Smith - who simply isn’t charismatic or sympathetic enough to bring the masses with him.

People need to be thrilled and excited about the replacement system to sway the status quo crowd.

The second picture was part of a huge document dump so there's an argument to say the woman in it never consented to her image being released in the first place. The problem is once those pictures are out there by whatever means there's no control over how they're used.

In this instance they're highlighting the arrogant royal refusal to shed light on how MW was enabled and who knew what and when as part of a wider campaign.

The royals still hide behind 'never complain, never explain' but it's an increasingly threadbare tactic which is likely to continue to lead campaigners to resort to distasteful measures to provoke answers.

Republic are (in my opinion) doing a really poor job of selling the idea of the UK as a republic.

TBF the royals in turn are doing a pretty poor job of selling the monarchy.

I think a recent poll had them at something like a 45% approval rating overall with much less among young people.

It's hard to see how they can halt the slide at this point.

YouGov’s figures were considerably higher than that, actually. From their January 2026 review of the previous year:

Overall, there’s little desire to see the monarchy come to an end, with 64% of Britons believing the UK should continue to be a Kingdom, consistent with the 61-67% who have felt so throughout Charles’s reign”

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/53895-royal-family-favourability-trackers-january-2026

The royals still hide behind 'never complain, never explain' but it's an increasingly threadbare tactic which is likely to continue to lead campaigners to resort to distasteful measures to provoke answers.

External locus of control?

I can only assume that those still in favour of a monarchy haven’t read any of these books. Meticulously researched and well written, they taught me a lot that I didn’t know, and I was never in favour of the monarchy as I felt it was a complete anachronism in the current day.

@OneBusyFinch

Oh yes. I have read each one of them and I think they should be required reading.
But some people just don't want to know the reality or the truth, I find that a bit sad

Some may think better the devil you know. I don’t think anything is perfect tbh. I’m looking at countries like Israel, Turkey, USA, Russia, Iran among others and they scare me shitless tbh. But then there are others such as France, Germany, Portugal and I have glimmers of hope! I don’t really know the answer.

The Savanta poll taken in February 2026 (ie after the arrest of MW ) has them at 45%.

I'm just surprised the drop was as small as 20% or so.

They seem to have bounced back by April though…

How do Britons feel about the monarchy, April 2026?
Attitudes towards the family and monarchy as a whole remain mostly positive, with nearly six in ten Britons (57-59%) seeing the royal family in general and the institution of the monarchy in a favourable light, though a persistent third (34-36%) see both negatively.
Overall, there’s little desire to see the monarchy come to an end, with 64% of Britons believing the UK should continue to be a Kingdom, consistent with the 61-67% who have felt so throughout Charles’s reign.

If I were the RF I would worry a lot about the 36% who don't want them!

That's 20 million ADULTS (I excluded those under 18)

This breaks it down by age group too
https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54571-royal-family-favourability-trackers-april-2026

I wonder what a bang up to date survey might say with the recent revelations W & K seem to have forgotten to mention the £400k tax payer funded exterior renovation costs to their latest forever home while making sure we all knew they were ponying up the interior costs and rent themselves and the assorted property nasties uncovered in the recent NAO report.

Thank you. Wow, such a contrast between age groups!

You mean the repair work done as required by the landlord under the terms of the lease (not renovation)?

Direct quotation from the NAO report:

Works were carried out by TCE in accordance with the standard
repairing obligations:
• Forest Lodge and surrounding property grounds £213,353**
• No 2 Stable Cottages £48,575
• No 3 Stable Cottages £90,626
• The Barn £44,439
Please note that no landlord works have been carried out to
No 1 Stable Cottages as the previous tenant only vacated on
21 January 2026.
** Works included heating and plumbing, structural repairs to
ceilings, floor, stairs, fire alarms, brickwork, boilers, stabilising
external walls for safety, and similar works to ensure safety
and compliance.

Edit to add: also, not tax payer funded, as paid by the Crown Estate as landlord.

I do think we have to wonder why so very many royal properties seem to be found to require work to bring them into line with current regulation on a now needed basis.

CE funded work to royal property involves an indirect cost to the public purse in the form of reduced profits.

But I think you know that.

How many dilapidated cottages do they have??? Is there anywhere that ordinary people can find out this information without the drip feed from official RF sources?
Why is it like trying to get blood from a stone?
Oh wait - it’s the royal snouts in the trough trying to keep it all hidden.