PR Disasters part 11

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The ongoing dramas from Montecito courtesy of H&M.

I can’t see another thread but I made the same mistake last time …

The Waleses have nothing to prove. It’s obvious from their interactions, that they have a happy and healthy relationship and family.

The Sussexes need to prove, that escaping the alleged toxic RF, was the right decision. If it was the right decision, they wouldn’t be so hell bent, on trying to prove it.

Their 'security team' are not police and have no special rights or privileges. They can't stop others taking photos in a public place, let alone be 'super aggressive' with people enjoying a family day out.

Surely people far more famous than the Sussexes visit Disney?

As someone currently being treated for eye cancer. I agree.

Somebody's got to be there taking photos of the whole family from behind, as well. Maybe the same person?

There are the Sussexes, walking together as a group of 4. And then, following behind them, there's the person whose job it is to take photos of their backs. And carry all their stuff. Not to mention providing that essential securidee, in case Cinderella tries to kidnap one of them. So, probably more than one person trailing around after them, like a line of laden camels in those old films about crossing the desert? I really hope they're paying them well.

Maybe it is Doria carrying the bags and taking the photos? Whoever is taking them is no photographer.

You can also pay for a Disney photographer to follow you around. Disney have loads of rich and famous visitors you can pretty much pay for everything you want if you can afford it.

I think an annual joint birthday trip to Disney is a nice thing to do if you live in california.

I just don't see why they think it's a good idea to share photos of it on social media.

Especially when they are so obsessed with security .

Maybe it is Doria carrying the bags and taking the photos? Whoever is taking them is no photographer.

Doria is the only one of the family carrying a backpack, I guess Marcus is the one with the camera. 😀

They aren't obsessed with security.

They're obsessed with the status and prestige they believe high profile 'security' gives them.

Exactly. If they were obsessed about security they wouldn’t show any photos of their DC . There is no need to see them . Other celebs manage to have high profile careers but keep their DC out of the spotlight .
Have we ever seen photos of the Clooney DC ?

That As Ever video is so cringey. I notice there is a huge cupboard full of spread ( that she can’t sell).

I saw one pap photo of the twins several years ago, but that's it. I remember thinking the boy was a miniature George! But other than that not at all. It's perfectly possible to protect the privacy of the children of even major public figures. We have never seen photos of the PM's children. We don't even officially know their names!

And people 'obsessed with security' would not leave their children to go on a week long jolly on the other side of the world.

I read that W&K released some photos of their children each year as a deal with the press to leave them alone at other times. But I heard on a podcast that prices of paparazzi shots of the children are relatively low as a result. Now, I know it is different with W&K because they can't hide their children's faces during public events etc. Amal Clooney, apparently, I have read , makes people who come round to their house leave their mobile phones at the door so that no-one is tempted to take a snap of the children. I think M&H's problem is they fall between the two - constantly posting photographs whilst hiding their faces , which in my view is just whipping up interest in A&L. I believe California law is strict on photos of children but surely they are just driving up the price of the first unguarded shots of the children's faces.

I really don't think 'paps' are stalking Montecito in the hope of getting pictures of these kids! No respectable publication would pay for "unauthorised" photos of children. They might make their way onto social media but there would be no big pay off. The whole economy around celebrity photos has changed massively with the rise of social media and camera phones. "Paps" rarely hang around on the off chance of a photo of this or that actress or football player walking into Starbucks. There's just no money in that sort of thing these days.

Are the RF and politicians comparing with service families accommodation? Maybe they should give that a go. The armed forces also have to pay for their own food, whether in barracks, service families accommodation or their own private housing.
Maybe they are comparing with their rich friends who chose different career paths....

It's definitely a "teaser" before the big reveal of both kids faces. Whether anyone will be interested, is another matter.

Fair play @IcedPurple - - the Paparazzi , in my defence , is not my strong suit. 😊

Personally, I couldn't give a tiny little shit what the kids look like. But I'm absolutely fascinated by watching their parents dance around the "marketing, but privacy, but marketing, but security, but MARKETING" maypole.

I loved the glimpse into a cupboard full of jam!
i wi der what her actual pantry looks like. It maybe that is it? 🤔😂

Going back to the sofa some posters may recall the late Alan Clark MP sneering that Michael Heseltine was a man who bought his own furniture.
Raiding the attic and getting something restored really wouldn’t have social cachet for Meghan or probably most Americans. It’s definitely a thing in certain social circles in the UK though. The sofa doesn’t have to be saggy and threadbare and covered in dog hair.
Though I suspect W&C bought new sofas for Anmer hall and wherever - they have enough other antiques and valuable paintings to make a tasteful mix.

I'm not a betting woman, but if I were, I'd put quite a lot of money on there being a constant friction between H&M on exposing the children. I think he genuinely hates and fears the media, and is too dim to see how reliant he is (especially these days) on it, thinking (if you can call it that) that he's still the same media catch as he was in WRF days.

M I would bet is absolutely champing at the bit to find ways to monetise the children, and it's only H's revulsion at the idea that even reins her in slightly.

In terms of their lifestyle, I think the security is the joint obsession, though in her case more status-driven and his more just what he grew up with. The luxury of the accommodation is driven by her (he has described the time he spent in Iraq/Afghanistan, in blistering heat living in shipping containers as the happiest time of his life) but the seclusion and lack of profile by him.

That Alison Boshoff article said (IIRC) he'd be perfectly happy living somewhere much more remote and genuinely private, but she absolutely wouldn't. I do hope for their sake that they can each live with the compromises they've made for the other, but it has to be about how they keep the show on the road financially, which I guess is far more M's domain than H's.

Didn't Boris have to borrow money after Carrie spent £200,000 decorating No. 10?

Was this another freebie - like last year's Disney trip?

Off piste, I hope Kate has used her art history degree to cut a swathe through the Royal Collection and put some stuff that she really loves on the walls at Anmer and Forest Lodge - KP being more of an official residence so possibly more constricted?

QETQM's art collection was supposed to be spectacular and mostly acquired in her lifetime, so hopefully there's some beauties in there.

Spot on 👏