PR Disasters part 11

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The ongoing dramas from Montecito courtesy of H&M.

I can’t see another thread but I made the same mistake last time …

Charles clearly refused to make time for Harry in the US

He didn't even mention he had American Grandchildren.

People say it must be awful for KC, but we don't know that. I know of people that are not in contact with their children any more. If course they are sad that it happened, and wish it could be different, but they don't want to reconcile as the reasons they went NC are still valid.

Even if there is reconciliation, it will never be enough. H will want a prestigious role, on condition his grifter wife is included

Problem is the only role big enough would be that of King and Queen.

I’ve said before switch to Harriet and Mark and people would be saying emotional abuse, at the very least. Left your country, NC with family and your childhood friends. Alarm bells would be ringing.

I'm sure she knows exactly what goes into the rag, @Lunde - and equally sure that winding people up for clicks matters more

*I'm sure she knows exactly what goes into the rag, @Lunde - and equally sure that winding people up for clicks matters more

I’ve said before switch to Harriet and Mark and people would be saying emotional abuse, at the very least

Edited to add I don't doubt it, @Recklessismymiddlename, and they'd have a point, but IMO a lot of that is Harry's faullt in that a more sensible man would probably have paused before rushing in quite so fast.
He might be stuck now, with 2 kids based in the US and a wife who has no intention of returning here, but that wasn't always the case and frankly he's been an utter fool

KC appears to have a wonderful, supportive family. His wife, his eldest son his daughter in law, grandchildren who obviously adore him, etc. he's probably not missing H at all and may well feel his life is better without Meg and H

Apologiess ... I don't know how that first paragraph came to be repeated

I’m sure they all thank their lucky stars that Harry has not just flounced, but flounced a long way away to a different country where there is no risk of accidental meetings. All of UK aristocratic and celeb society is free of him now, not just the RF. And what luck that he has also destroyed his reputation so completely, to the point where he is now globally derided as a lying, whining, entitled, greedy, lazy, duplicitous, spiteful, hypocritical, friendless, paranoid and deluded drug addled idiot. Embarrassing for Charles and William perhaps, who both seem to be quite thoughtful and responsible people. But so much easier to ignore the distant tantrums than it would have been trying to manage those monstrous egos within the hierarchy (and protect the Wales children) if H+M had stayed as working royals.

Just saw this on X, the breakdown of expenses for accommodation for Invictus (don’t know which games though, possibly Vancouver). Can this really be accurate?

This is how the accommodation expenses averages out per person

Invictus employees = $3,400 pp
Trustees = $6,000 pp
Patron = $108,000 (attributed to 2 patrons, but I think Harry is the only patron, is there another patron ? have they surreptitiously taken Meghan on as a patron now?)

Athletes = $1,800 pp
Family and friends = $1,700pp
Officials = $1,800

This is outrageous if it’s accurate.

Wow

Their accommodation per person cost more than 8x that of the trustees, even though they were staying at the same hotel? Was that Harry’s bar bill or pay per view I wonder 🤔

I know in Germany there were complaints that the Sussexes demanded a 5* hotel

I wonder if IG is also being billed for the accommodation costs of Harry and Meghan's entourage including PAs, PRs, private security .... also I know in Vancouver IG Harry and Meghan took their own "media team", including a photographer so that only "approved" images were released. But who pays for this?

This is absolutely outrageous but not surprising. Ingriftus needs to be taken off PH asap

I wonder if IG is also being billed for the accommodation costs of Harry and Meghan's entourage including PAs, PRs, private security .... also I know in Vancouver IG Harry and Meghan took their own "media team", including a photographer so that only "approved" images were released. But who pays for this?

I wonder if that would come under accommodation for ‘officials’,which was $750,000 total.

No, the discussion is whether she lied about being pregnant to get Harry to marry her. It is pure speculation based on absolutely no evidence but has nothing to do with a miscarriage, imaginary or otherwise.

I think this is a very astute and pithy analysis of their dynamic.

I'm just reading Tom Bower's Betrayal book and it starts off with an appearance by Meghan at One Young World event in Manchester. She had an entourage of 11 flown from Los Angeles and back again, 5 in 1st Class and 2 in business. Can you imagine the bill for that including hotels, security etc. For a single speech in which she only spoke about herself....

I'm sure Charles is sad about not having a relationship with his younger son and grandchildren, but I agree that he's likely not heartbroken and is certainly not planning on any 'reconciliation'. Lots of families have fallings out and manage to get on with life, and that's without any of the risks involved with 'reconciliation' with a loose canon like Harry.

The fact that Charles didn't once mention his American daughter in law and grandchildren on the recent visit is very telling. It would have been such an obvious thing to say, to emphasise his own personal connection with the country. But not a single mention. Ouch.

Or ruling jointly, like the Kings and Queens of Narnia in Cair Paravel. Maybe Tiggy Legge Bourke once read the boys The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. M’s probably seen the movie.

Yes , this from @IcedPurple "The fact that Charles didn't once mention his American daughter in law and grandchildren on the recent visit is very telling. It would have been such an obvious thing to say, to emphasise his own personal connection with the country. But not a single mention. Ouch."

Probably didn't help that Harry was recently lecturing Trump on the Ukraine, which might have been embarrassing for Charles.

Yes, 'least said soonest mended', @BasiliskStare.

@MyAutumnCrow - Harry lecturing Putin and Trump was one thing , but the more I think of it , doing it when his father was shortly to go on a state visit really was a bit bone headed (if he wants to get closer to the RF) . He's doing nothing to establish himself as a safe pair of hands.

One thing that I thought was slightly odd is that the accounts for Invictus show that their bank is Hoare's (posh old school private bank in London) and their lawyers are Clifford Chance (magic circle law firm, very heavy hitters). Their accountants, on the other hand, aren't one of the Big Four as you might expect, but a much smaller firm, Price Bailey, and it's the Norwich office that is responsible for the audit. It just feels quite... unbalanced to me.

INVICTUS GAMES FOUNDATION filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

That’s very interesting, dinosaur! Might they have needed to look far and wide to find accountants happy to sign off on slightly dodgy numbers?

A big firm would be more likely to force you to stay on the straight and narrow

I occasionally worked in North Wales when W & C were first married, and colleagues from Anglesey mentioned seeing Catherine at the supermarket (I think, Waitrose?). Also, if she had to order anything from a shop she was overheard to give the name "Mrs Cambridge".