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Footage of Charlotte

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Aspecialkindofhell · 02/05/2026 17:14

Does anyone else feel really uncomfortable about the photos the RF have put out of Charlotte today? Likewise the photo of them all lying in the sand. I feel those photos should be personal . She’s only 11, on holiday and those moments should be private.

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IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 17:18

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 03/05/2026 12:42

I think you misunderstood- I’m not suggesting they don’t do family days out as well as formal engagements - I’m saying they should not do formal engagements ever with the children until they are adults. That because they do formal engagements with the children, they haven’t a leg to stand on about respecting the children’s privacy re pap photos in public spaces while on private family trips out.

Because they take the children to formal events and regularly release photos of them, the public know that the children look like, and so more likely to be photographed by the public /press out and about. Because we know what the children look like, they are less safe than children of celebrities who aren’t easily recognisable.

A rule of thumb, if William and Catherine would list an event as a work engagement on their list of official events, not a family trip, then the children shouldn’t be there. If they would put out information to the press about their attendance in advance, the children shouldn’t be there.

Yes, the future King could be “hidden away” (or just not do any “work”) until an adult. If it was highly likely he might be the King before 18, then there would be an argument for training him early. But that’s not the case here.

This argument doesn’t apply for the younger Royal children.

Perhaps I 'misunderstand' because you've changed your argument with every post.

First you said we shouldn't see the children's faces at all. Then you said it's fine so long as they're not wearing suits and are sat in 'normal stands'. Which is it?

Because they take the children to formal events and regularly release photos of them, the public know that the children look like, and so more likely to be photographed by the public /press out and about. Because we know what the children look like, they are less safe than children of celebrities who aren’t easily recognisable.

Can you tell me the last time a pap photo of any of the Wales children appeared in the British press?

And are you aware that these children are escorted by highly trained and probably armed security at all times? They are the best protected children in the land, so your concern doesn't really ring true.

A rule of thumb, if William and Catherine would list an event as a work engagement on their list of official events, not a family trip, then the children shouldn’t be there. If they would put out information to the press about their attendance in advance, the children shouldn’t be there.

That's not a 'rule' though, is it? You just made it up.

Basically you're saying that children should not attend exciting sports events or major family occasions such as Charles' Coronation.

You must know that's ridiculous, surely?

And what great horror is going to befall the children if the public know what they look like? You've never explained it and I doubt you ever will.

Yes, the future King could be “hidden away” (or just not do any “work”) until an adult. If it was highly likely he might be the King before 18, then there would be an argument for training him early. But that’s not the case here.

So he's hidden away for his entire childhood and adolescence then suddenly when he comes of age he's a public figure? One who will be expected to deal with people from all walks of life as an essential part of his role? One who will have to become an expert in diplomacy? Despite having been the Prince in the Tower for his first 18 years?

Again, you KNOW this is nonsense, don't you?

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:19

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 03/05/2026 12:42

I think you misunderstood- I’m not suggesting they don’t do family days out as well as formal engagements - I’m saying they should not do formal engagements ever with the children until they are adults. That because they do formal engagements with the children, they haven’t a leg to stand on about respecting the children’s privacy re pap photos in public spaces while on private family trips out.

Because they take the children to formal events and regularly release photos of them, the public know that the children look like, and so more likely to be photographed by the public /press out and about. Because we know what the children look like, they are less safe than children of celebrities who aren’t easily recognisable.

A rule of thumb, if William and Catherine would list an event as a work engagement on their list of official events, not a family trip, then the children shouldn’t be there. If they would put out information to the press about their attendance in advance, the children shouldn’t be there.

Yes, the future King could be “hidden away” (or just not do any “work”) until an adult. If it was highly likely he might be the King before 18, then there would be an argument for training him early. But that’s not the case here.

This argument doesn’t apply for the younger Royal children.

What an odd perspective - I’m sure they want to enjoy Wimbledon etc with their children - they would see them less also if they didn’t accompany - it’s also a good chance for role modelling from
w and k

and here is the thing - they have top notch security - they are not in danger if people know what they look like

they all need preparing for public life - I think k and w doing a marvellous job - getting the balance of not wearing too many suits etc - letting the see what their parents do and how to conduct yourself

their lives are mapped out - they will be in public roles - George will be at least 50-60 before he comes to the throne

wordler · 03/05/2026 17:21

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:14

She was never a spare as she wasn’t in the line of succession

and she didn’t give her kids titles so that they could lead more normal lives - best move she could make

Andrew, Edward and Anne were all spares to Charles. They are the spares that kept Elizabeth’s line going if necessary.

William only has Harry to keep Charles’ line going.

George has Charlotte and Louis.

Of course as soon as the heir and the first spare in line starts having children, the other spares in that line get pushed so far down it becomes irrelevant that they were ever a ‘spare’.

George is 13 this year - Harry has had a good 13 years to move on from the position in waiting and forge his own path.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 17:22

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:07

Unsavoury people may look - but you don’t know about it - you can’t control it -

I’m glad she was in shorts - why should she have less bodily freedom as a girl??? they are just legs - feel feee lovely Charlotte always

Is that what this is about ? The fact that Charlotte is wearing shorts ? @FancyBiscuitsLevel did you feel the same about the footage of Louis on the beach in shorts ??

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:24

corblimeygvnr · 03/05/2026 13:00

I was impressed by charlotte's cricket bowling! It's lovely to see young girls being sporty as opposed to running about with crop tops and false spiders on their eyes or rolled out and presented as very " girlie" in pink all the time.

Exactly what I thought - loves the cricket and shorts - she looked very happy

so unsavoury what the beckhama do with Harper - cleavage of a 14 year old 🤢 she’s never bloody in school and is having around with adults all the time

Charlenedickens · 03/05/2026 17:25

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:19

What an odd perspective - I’m sure they want to enjoy Wimbledon etc with their children - they would see them less also if they didn’t accompany - it’s also a good chance for role modelling from
w and k

and here is the thing - they have top notch security - they are not in danger if people know what they look like

they all need preparing for public life - I think k and w doing a marvellous job - getting the balance of not wearing too many suits etc - letting the see what their parents do and how to conduct yourself

their lives are mapped out - they will be in public roles - George will be at least 50-60 before he comes to the throne

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Absolutely, hiding them away would be so damaging for them, much better to prepare them from a young age. And they clearly haven’t lost their right to privacy, those kids have it in spades.

wordler · 03/05/2026 17:25

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 17:22

Is that what this is about ? The fact that Charlotte is wearing shorts ? @FancyBiscuitsLevel did you feel the same about the footage of Louis on the beach in shorts ??

It wasn’t really about shorts - it was a veiled dig at the parenting of William and Kate.

Not very well veiled.

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:25

wordler · 03/05/2026 17:25

It wasn’t really about shorts - it was a veiled dig at the parenting of William and Kate.

Not very well veiled.

A very transparent veil.

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:26

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:14

She was never a spare as she wasn’t in the line of succession

and she didn’t give her kids titles so that they could lead more normal lives - best move she could make

Are you certain you should be commenting when you have no knowledge about the royal family? 🙄

Yellowpapersun · 03/05/2026 17:26

If they didn't release photos and videos on significant days, the press would hound them.

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:27

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:26

Are you certain you should be commenting when you have no knowledge about the royal family? 🙄

Quite. Anne has been a very successful and productive "Spare" 😁

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:27

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 03/05/2026 13:26

I think the children’s privacy should be protected. They should be treated as private citizens until as adults they chose to be working royals or not. I don’t think there is any justification for the children attending formal /official events (other than weddings or funerals).

The public being interested in what the children look like, or enjoying seeing them is not a good enough reason to do this.

I don’t believe in the “duty” aspect that any of them have to be working royals if they don’t want to be. (Although obviously I do think if you aren’t doing the job you don’t get the money!)

BTW - I feel the same way about other celebrity parents who share photos of the children or use them for publicity.

How weird

they will never be able to walk down the street normally regardless so there is no sudden choice to be made later

I’m sure they like being so popular amongst peers and having everything they need and wonderful schooling

your acting as if they are chimney sweeps

weird

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:30

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:27

Quite. Anne has been a very successful and productive "Spare" 😁

Frankly I’m shocked at the level of ignorance 🤷‍♀️

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 17:30

corblimeygvnr · 03/05/2026 14:04

@FancyBiscuitsLevel do you not agree it would be extremely bizarre for someone to suddenly appear as an adult in a public role ? How about their ability to deal with the general public and being photographed after a hidden childhood?

Also, how does one live a 'hidden childhood' in this day and age? Is the poster proposing that the royal children be educated at home? Have no friends outside their family? Never attend or participate in social, cultural or sports events? Be driven around in blacked out vehicles? Sounds like a miserable childhood, especially when all 3 of them will be public figures no matter what future role they choose. And one of them will be an actual Head of State!

How utterly weird to think they should grow up isolated from the society in which one of them will one day be a leading figure. And even with all this cloak and dagger stuff, pictures would still get out. Guaranteed.

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:32

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:30

Frankly I’m shocked at the level of ignorance 🤷‍♀️

I know. It's really very strange....

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:33

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 17:30

Also, how does one live a 'hidden childhood' in this day and age? Is the poster proposing that the royal children be educated at home? Have no friends outside their family? Never attend or participate in social, cultural or sports events? Be driven around in blacked out vehicles? Sounds like a miserable childhood, especially when all 3 of them will be public figures no matter what future role they choose. And one of them will be an actual Head of State!

How utterly weird to think they should grow up isolated from the society in which one of them will one day be a leading figure. And even with all this cloak and dagger stuff, pictures would still get out. Guaranteed.

As pp said, like Queen Victoria, isolated in Kensington Palace with no friends. She was lonely and unhappy.

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:35

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:32

I know. It's really very strange....

I’m no expert but Anne not in the line of succession? , never a spare? 🤷‍♀️ , I mean the patriarchy of the monarchy is known but even they don’t discount the daughter of the monarch out completely!

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:35

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:35

I’m no expert but Anne not in the line of succession? , never a spare? 🤷‍♀️ , I mean the patriarchy of the monarchy is known but even they don’t discount the daughter of the monarch out completely!

Poor Anne. She's been an absolute stalwart as well!

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:36

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:33

As pp said, like Queen Victoria, isolated in Kensington Palace with no friends. She was lonely and unhappy.

Perhaps locking them all in the tower before they turn 18 is the way forward?! 😬

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:38

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:15

She was in the line of succession.
She still is.

Sorry yes - she is 18th - I don’t think she’s holding out

she definitely didn’t grow up thinking she was the spare - she just kept dropping further and further - the boys- her brothers would have been the spares until Charles had children

Lunde · 03/05/2026 17:40

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:14

She was never a spare as she wasn’t in the line of succession

and she didn’t give her kids titles so that they could lead more normal lives - best move she could make

Of course Anne was on the Line of Succession - she was #2 from 1952 until she was 10 until Andrew was born. Currently 18th in the Los.

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:42

@Pippilongstocking2 - genuine question, why do you think Anne isn't in the line of succession?

Lunde · 03/05/2026 17:42

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:17

When Princess Anne was born she was 3rd in line to the throne. Then in 1952, second in line. She then dropped down behind Andrew, Edward and their children (and grandchildren.
She is now 18th in the line of succession.

2nd - Charles was first in line as the heir
Anne was 2nd in Line as the spare until AMW was born

Harry on the other hand maxed out at 3rd

Pippilongstocking2 · 03/05/2026 17:42

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2026 17:26

Are you certain you should be commenting when you have no knowledge about the royal family? 🙄

It doesn’t mean I have no knowledge about the royal family - I got mixed up as someone told me recently she was not in the line

she was never the spare in the way we see Harry as the spare - Anne grew up knowing she wouldn’t come to the throne

the spare argument is centuries old when healthcare and life expectancy wasn’t as good - Anne knew she would never be a Queen and had more freedom

sunflowersintheday · 03/05/2026 17:43

https://www.royal.uk/encyclopedia/succession
Here you go, @Pippilongstocking2 .
The first 25.
Anne is currently 18th.
At one point she was 2nd, after Charles.

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