PR Disasters Part X

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For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

They are legend. The scandal, the drama, the humiliations these two have in their past!

Yes absolutely. She supported the institution that is the RF, if not certain individuals within it, and she would not have abandoned either of her children, let alone attacked William from afar. Which shows that Harry has very little understanding of his mother. He’s just tried to shoe horn a narrative about her to fit his own and make out he’s continuing what she started and was unable to see through.

According to Richard Eden on Palace Confidential, he does have some input on words and tone.
In any case, he speaks well and comes across as sane and intelligent.

In contrast my mayor, Mamdani, could have said something nice about the British influence on early NYC rather than talking about the return of the diamond.

@Starryfifty - Thank you for that clip. Wouldn't it be nice if the story got a bit of traction.

I think Harry just wants motorcades, roads cleared and everything made easy for him, while Meghan wants adoring crowds. They should have stayed in the RF where all this was laid on.

Yes it’s a good clip. I like how one of them pointed out that the lifeguard was in his work place when Harry assaulted him, then Harry has the temerity to go on stage to talk about bullying in the workplace.
( I didn’t like how the host refers to Harry as retarded, although I don’t believe it is as offensive a word in the US?)

Charles speech really was masterful and well written. Put down after put down to the Americans and it had them giving standing ovations. I had to laugh.

And the comment in the after dinner speech about the names of places in America reading like his Christmas card list was particularly funny!

I didn't like the retarded comment either. The workplace comment was spot on. I'm baffled as to why this has not been picked up. Dan Wooton, Maureen Callaghan, Kinsey ???

This is an interesting development - same as Trump where all his media cheerleaders have now turned against him - this is Dan Wakefield who was their cheerleader as editor in People and Us Magazine now calling them out…..

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EDVlZ-vQPxE

36 is not a very young woman

Yes but Meghan had to walk behind Catherine !!

It is young to die at that age which is what I think the poster was referring to.

This is what makes it all the more crazy. They had everything they wanted.

Act in haste and all that.

https://www.womensweekly.com.au/royals/interview-meghan-duchess-of-sussex/

Pretty much an infomercial.

Agree young to die, but not very young.

This is a narrative we see a lot with H&M the idea that they should be forgiven for things because they are 'young'

When you are 53, 36 is very young 😂

The only thing better than Australia are Australians ....ffs. How profound 🙄

Whereas the motorcade/security issue is very much Harry’s obsession (I don’t think Meghan has spoken publicly about security?), I do believe Meghan revelled in it all and would if she gets it back because amongst her crowd in California and even those who are not in her crowd, she would have something that they - billionaires as they may be - could never have because it’s not for sale. This is partly why she clings onto the titles so much: she has something they don’t have and can’t buy, she’s better than them. It feeds her sense of specialness to the point it’s become her identity (don’t you know I’m Sussex now?)

I think she'd have wanted what B & E for herself and her kids had rather than being working royals - houses on estates - nice connected jobs invited to RF events without the pressure - option of royal style big wedding.

I thought late Queen did some bridge openings and other low key events with her to show her that not all the events were going to be state banquetes or big state occasions when the uniforms come out and TV cameras are there.

I think she didn't understand what RF was really - a cultural divide time or a DH who knew himself would have enlightened her about - if she listened.

It's the crown that seems to provide the sparkle - and how close anyone is to it . There's that photo op with world leaders and late Queen everyone trying to get as close as possible - partly as she'd worn that crown so long and partly the crown's sprakle.

They aren't close enough to the crown anymore and don't have enough personal qualities or talents to make up for that but if they don't cling to titles what do they have left.

Meghan will have hated that another aristocratic lifestyle influencer, Emma Thynn, the Marchioness of Bath got an invitation. Weren't there suggestions last year that Meghan copied some of her content for WLM?

Tina Brown, in her (excellent, IMO) book Palace Papers, talks about the contrast between Diana's plans for projects targeted at particular causes on a rolling two-year cycle, and the general chaos and reactivity of what H&M have done since leaving the WRF. The book was written not that long after they left.

This article is basically extracted from the book: https://www.instyle.com/princess-diana-big-plans-post-divorce-11765994 and I remember this quote from the book: “Her plan sounded very like the one Meghan and Harry have in mind, but with one central difference—it was better thought out.”

I think they would very rarely have had motorcades even as working royals. Royal security is very discreet and the full bells and whistles are only for major state events.

But I think 'security' is a Meghan 'thing' too. Not because she's genuinely afraid for her safety, but because it's a status symbol which, in her mind, sets her apart from other celebrities. She's so incredibly important that she requires full round the clock security, even though she peddles fruit 'spread' on the internet for a living.

I also suspect 'security' may be her excuse for not allowing Harry to take the children to Britain. And he's dumb enough to believe her.

I still very firmly believe that H & M were pushed. Leaving wasn't their choice. I think they threatened it, and were called out on it. Hence the ongoing tantrum from Harry as he still very much believes he is a "working" Royal. His character had been stage managed very heavily until he was let loose - now that the real person has been seen, there's no putting that back into the bottle.

I believe the RF called their bluff.

I think sadly Harry has built up a complete fantasy in his head about his mother.

Personally I never thought that Diana and Dodi were any more than a summer fauxmance to get a dig in at the RF for their dreary/dull summer holidays at rainy Balmoral while they were partying in the Med. Diana was being a bit of a Disney mum. Wasn't Dodi's real girlfriend staying very close by?

I think a lot of that holiday was staged for the paps - someone with Dodi's wealth could have chosen a much more private/secluded location than sailing up and down on boats in front of the European paparazzi pack. I still cringe when I see photos of William trying to hide his face from the cameras while Diana is happy to pose for them.

I don't think Harry has ever understood this and instead has created a whole false narrative in his head where his mother was a and angel without fault.

William, seems more clear headed about his mother - he loved her but recognises her faults. I remember he was once asked what sort of Grandmother Diana would have been. IIRC he said something along the lines of - she would have been great fun, probably turn up in the middle of bathtime and create chaos and mess .... and then she'd leave for someone else to sort it out. It made me wonder if this was an insight into the way she was as a mother.