PR Disasters Part X

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For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

This really reminds me of something I read about Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Narcissists can see other people having (for example) loving relationships with their families. They want this kind of "success" for themselves, as well. But they seem to lack a basic understanding of the realities which underpin a loving family relationship. Instead they pursue the outward signs of it: they want to receive lots of birthday cards and flowers and presents, they want to be visited or taken out for meals, etc. And they want other people to see that this is happening, so that they have an audience for their "success." If they have those outward signs then they seem to be quite happy with their "happy family relationship," no matter how little actual affection or closeness or communication is involved.

This kind of hollowness reminds me of M and H's approach to, well, a lot of things, really. Service, charity, business, career, etc etc. Particularly Meghan. It's all spin and camera angles, but as long as the photo or the press release looks good then it's a success.

I’d agree with this. A family member behaves in the same way.

Yes, I think this really nails it. The ultimate goal is the photo op, not the substantive work or underlying relationship. And, to be fair to them, that’s the way SM use has pushed society. It’s all about getting the likes and selling an idealised version of your life on Facebook and Instagram. There are a number of psychologists and commentators who think dark triad personality signifiers have entered mainstream interactions, even between people who don’t have personality disorders, because SM is teaching people (who have known no other way of life) that this is how to behave.

It is mind-blowing that they are not at the NY Charity Gala.

How far they have fallen .

I don't remember Diana doing faux royal tours though, did she? I was maybe too young to notice. I remember her having a few causes she championed like land mines, and so if she was pictured abroad working, it was in this capacity. I don't remember her just choosing a random country and visiting a load of disconnected charities, hospitals etc. I also don't remember her demanding payment to visit landmine victims etc. But I was only 15 when she died so wasn't paying that much attention. I do remember far more coverage of her personal life than her charitable endeavours.

It is so embarrassing for them that they have to put out statements about not watching the King's speech. It was worldwide news, was brilliant and really showed us what the royals are for: soft diplomacy, not commercial gain. And the King said "my prime minister" and "My government" which just underlines how embarrassing and inappropriate it is for Harry to be bringing multiple court cases against HM government.

How American to be so litigious!

Apart from the Opening of Parliament, KC writes his own speeches with some input from aides and the Government.

I thought that as well, it must really sting. They only have themselves to blame.

I haven’t seen statements from H and M in recent days so either I am looking in the wrong place or MSM aren’t interested.

When did they put out a statement?

Headline in DM
https://www.dailymail.com/lifestyle/fashion/article-15776967/best-dressed-charity-gala-guests-king-charles-queen-camilla.html

I believe Meghan would be more than happy as a celebrity influencer, as long as she had millions of adoring fans, it's Harry who is trying to manifest half in half out to a world that increasingly sees him as the bitter, entitled Spare he is.
Possibly, but Meghan will fight to the death to get A and L accepted as working royals.

I think he's doing well , but hard to know whether I am just biased

I know it's only one person's unimportant opinion, @BasiliskStare, but if it helps I can't stand the man and even I can see he's making a decent fist of things

Of course it also helps that Trump's keen on the RF and there's no saying how it would have looked if he'd had to host someone he disliked

Well if “ favourite son “ AMW couldn’t get B and E accepted as working Royals , H and M have no chance .
Why would they want such a life for their DC ? According to M it made her ill .
She will however cling on to their ( and her) titles .

Bound to, jeff, and obviously a Head of State's visit is going to be taxpayer funded, but like so much else H&M say their own claims about not being funded aren't necessarily true - and not just re the security

About them not being invited to the events though, I know Trump brought his kids to the UK but didn't think the RF usually took other members on state visits?
Isn't it more usual to make the visiting member "the star" and save the rest of them to wheel out when someone visits us instead?

I'm not saying they've got a hope in hell but I do think she wants them to be acknowledged as royal in the UK and welcomed into the family.

Probably, because she is the walking example of wanting cake and eating it.

Someone on the BBC news last night, sorry cant rember his name was saying the king had been very involved in writting the speeches alongside government officials.

Have H & M released an actual statement or is it just press conjecture?

I reckon they are fuming that they didn't get invited to that NY Gala. It looks like an incredible guest list.

I took it to mean "Look at us; we're out there doing nice things so it shows we'jre safe to be let back in", Starryfifty

And I wouldn't read too much into the Americans being told that H&M don't represent us. Those who matter will know this perfectly well, but with Harry's recent batch of offensive remarks and the fragile situation overall I can see that a reminder was thought necessary ... and of course it played well with the home crowd

I do not believe harry has any good intentions about service. His email to Chartotte G showed what a lazy, entitled twat he really is. He wants to be a Californian A lister without having to do any work or indeed the bare minimum. He and his awful wife are perfect for each other

Which is utter bollox. Diana was 36 when she died. A very young woman who was always unpredictable. Whatever path she took if she lived, she would absolutely not be dissing the RF. she would 💯 support it as her eldest son would be King. Diana had a horrendous experience in the RF but she made her peace with it and moved on. Something H will never do unfortunately.

not familiar with these guys but they have picked up on Harry and the Lifeguard incident

m.youtube.com/watch?v=7kF3SIcyXCg&pp=0gcJCd8KAYcqIYzv

Well said. He carries this fantasy image of himself in his head. I am sure he is a very unhappy man and will continue to be so.

And it took bravery to stand there are chastise the USA, even as gently as he did. He and his advisors would have gauged the political temperature carefully, so mitigating the risks. But, instead of standing ovstion after stanfing ovation, he could have gad instead some MAGA blowhard walkouts or catcats. And we'd be talking about a disaster, not a triumph.