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PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:34

From Reuters 2008.

“Asked if he would ever want to come back to Afghanistan, he said: "I don't want to sit around in Windsor.

"But I generally don't like England that much ……..

and, you know, it's nice to be away from all the press and the papers and all the general shite that they write."

The comments, made available to the media under a pool arrangement, are unlikely to be welcomed by Harry's supporters in Britain or by the popular tabloid press. ”

flapjackfairy · 03/05/2026 08:45

Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:34

From Reuters 2008.

“Asked if he would ever want to come back to Afghanistan, he said: "I don't want to sit around in Windsor.

"But I generally don't like England that much ……..

and, you know, it's nice to be away from all the press and the papers and all the general shite that they write."

The comments, made available to the media under a pool arrangement, are unlikely to be welcomed by Harry's supporters in Britain or by the popular tabloid press. ”

talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
He is too self absorbed to think through the ramifications of a comment like that . He was being bankrolled by a nation and its institutions and didn't have the sense to see how trashing them would make him look.
Neither one of them has any idea of how to conduct themselves in a dignified, professional and respectful.manner. If it is running through their heads it is spilling out of their mouths at the same time. Which only proves that neither one has what it takes to represent the RF even if they wanted to.

Baital · 03/05/2026 08:51

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:19

Thinking about it, how did Great Uncle David pay for his lifestyle when he left to marry Wallis? Presumably inheritances which they must have been careful to spend wisely. I wonder if he was bankrolled by the King. In which case I can see why Harry thought he’d be OK.

Balmoral, Sandringham and all personal property of family / historic interest that he inherited were sold to George VI for an annual allowance. He had significant amounts of jewellery, artworks etc as well as property.

He had free housing (or a peppercorn rent) from the French government for his Paris mansion. And they didn't tax his income.

There were endless wrangles over money with the RF for the rest of his life. He felt hard done by, they resented that he had hidden some of his wealth during negotiations after the abdication.

The money came with strings attached, such as not returning to the UK without permission.

StormGazing · 03/05/2026 09:04

Noodledog · 02/05/2026 23:18

I'm really not convinced Harry is capable of that kind of forward planning and self discipline. He's grown up with everything handed to him, and is lacking the intelligence to cope with the reality of having to pay for everything himself.

I also doubt he's being secretly bankrolled. I suspect they are both beginning to panic. They have the amount of money that most people can only dream of- that they've been given only because of who Harry is- but they both have massive delusions of grandeur and the money won't last. Can you imagine Meghan accepting that she can't afford to live in Montecito and moving to a more modest house in a cheaper area?

No, she’ll be demanding Hazza cashes in his inheritances.
Have a recollection that princess Anne is the holder of the queens money for the beneficiaries … at the time I wondered if it had something to do with making sure Megain doesn’t get her hands on it

StormGazing · 03/05/2026 09:14

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:08

I used to think he was one of the most likeable members of the family. He came across as very natural and unpretentious, fun and normal. He seems to have completely changed personality since he met Meghan. It’s hard to work out if he was always a peevish spoilt and angry man underneath. Or is it the drugs and her influence? Undoubtedly he was cosseted and many things covered up in the past. I don’t think he ever wanted to leave the UK or his family and friends. He did so because M gave him a choice. Me or them. It’s that simple. Now he lives in more of a bubble than he ever did. He’s lost touch with his friends and family. He only gets away from his wife when he’s off on his jaunts playing at being important , giving pretentious speeches about subjects he knows nothing about or bleating on about his dead Mummy. He is far more trapped and disempowered than he ever was before he Found Freedom.

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Meghan has been gradually pruning off his friends and family, this type of behaviour is common in mental health issues including paranoid personality disorder (my step mum had this so it looks very familiar to what happened to my dad). She’s very strange with her narcissism, delusions of grandeur, freakish controlling behaviour, bullying, resentment to others … very weird, Harry is too stupid to see it and the children will grow up thinking it’s normal

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:27

Totally off topic but some posters may recall from a few threads back that thanks to the sight of Meghan’s horrid looking so called marmalade I was inspired to make some marmalade and enter a jar into the annual Dalemain Marmalade festival.
Yesterday I received my judging results:
A Silver 🥈 award! Very kind judging comments too.

https://www.dalemain.com/the-festival

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Recklessismymiddlename · 03/05/2026 09:34

Well done!! That’s such a good result.

Curlygirl06 · 03/05/2026 09:35

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:27

Totally off topic but some posters may recall from a few threads back that thanks to the sight of Meghan’s horrid looking so called marmalade I was inspired to make some marmalade and enter a jar into the annual Dalemain Marmalade festival.
Yesterday I received my judging results:
A Silver 🥈 award! Very kind judging comments too.

https://www.dalemain.com/the-festival

Well done you!!!

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 09:35

OtherS · 02/05/2026 23:55

It doesn't need to be a cheaper area though, just a more sensible house. But that would definitely announce failure, to move now into a nice comfortable 5 bed in the same area!

So they would have to move a way away, but it would be easy enough to come up with an excuse that they moved as Montecito was too remote/quiet/elderly and they wanted to go somewhere more vibrant and connected for the sake of the children, their careers etc... So could still be a super exclusive area, just a few fewer bathrooms.

But would they be able to sell it? It looks pretty dated and neglected, I can't see they'll get top dollar for it.

If you look at Ronbrand homes website you will see some amazing houses in the Montecito area and they all look much better maintained than Casa Sussex .

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 03/05/2026 09:36

Harry is typical English Upper class -won’t mind old stuff, saggy sofas, slightly frayed textiles which is common in the ‘old money’ set.

At Longleat you can see the inhabited rooms , they are more than threadbare, they feel like a youth hostel.

Love the marmalade update @ShamedBySiri

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:42

Thank you all. I was very pleased! Also pleased not to have won!!! I have no idea how it works but the winner gets a batch of their marmalade sold at Fortnums. How is a small scale cook with a cupboard of doom filled with old Bon Maman jars meant to upscale to produce a few hundred pristine jars, and where do they get the seville oranges from out of season? Perhaps Fortnums sells a few jars of their.own stuff with the winner's name on?

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:44

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:27

Totally off topic but some posters may recall from a few threads back that thanks to the sight of Meghan’s horrid looking so called marmalade I was inspired to make some marmalade and enter a jar into the annual Dalemain Marmalade festival.
Yesterday I received my judging results:
A Silver 🥈 award! Very kind judging comments too.

https://www.dalemain.com/the-festival

I LOVE marmalade! Well done you!

Ducklingfeet · 03/05/2026 09:46

AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 07:38

I’m sure there were numerous trusts set up for Harry but that was when he lived in a world when he would have security paid for, a huge estate at peppercorn rent. The millions would go towards sustaining that life.

But the millions in trust, won’t last with his current lifestyle….because there is too much to pay for. NF money has stopped and they immediately got rid of staff and shuttered their foundation.

They don’t have the money to sustain this lifestyle for the next 40 years. Never mind pass anything on to their kids.

I wouldnt even think they have enough for the next 10 years. Hence harry already doing real estate conferences and Meg at wellness retreats. Harry wouldn’t have had a clue about the costs involved in owing a home, paying staff. EVERYTHING was covered by Pa or the taxpayer.

Estimates are they spend between 3-5 milllion a year. Completely unsustainable.

What with various possible trusts, inheritances, and allowances, their finances seem very Byzantine and mysterious to me (although Atlusvue and others have a much better handle on it than I do).

But what stands out to me is that they absolutely appear to be grubbing around for money, in an undignified way. Which makes me think that - whatever the actual numbers are - they aren't financially secure, because otherwise they wouldn't be compromising their image like that. Because image is everything to Meghan, and Harry has never had to think in terms of making money at all. So (to me) it's their behaviour which really indicates financial worries.

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:47

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 03/05/2026 09:36

Harry is typical English Upper class -won’t mind old stuff, saggy sofas, slightly frayed textiles which is common in the ‘old money’ set.

At Longleat you can see the inhabited rooms , they are more than threadbare, they feel like a youth hostel.

Love the marmalade update @ShamedBySiri

I met a couple who have a niche business restoring chandeliers and had a very interesting conversation with them. They care for the chandeliers in the Bath assembly rooms which they said were the best in the country. They go into these rambling old houses and have to take the chandeliers down, dismantle them piece by piece, clean the glass, rewire them to modern safety standards and reassemble them. They said they see really shocking ones, that have the original wiring from when electricity was introduced, huge fire risk. They were astounded by the state of my local large estate house, horrified at the lack of climate control around the valuable antiques and paintings. Though in a way, it is a lived in country home so I can see it's not easy. Anyway the chandeliers are all clean and up to scratch now.

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:49

Baital · 03/05/2026 08:51

Balmoral, Sandringham and all personal property of family / historic interest that he inherited were sold to George VI for an annual allowance. He had significant amounts of jewellery, artworks etc as well as property.

He had free housing (or a peppercorn rent) from the French government for his Paris mansion. And they didn't tax his income.

There were endless wrangles over money with the RF for the rest of his life. He felt hard done by, they resented that he had hidden some of his wealth during negotiations after the abdication.

The money came with strings attached, such as not returning to the UK without permission.

Why would the French govt agree not to tax him! How very strange. Surely also the properties belonged to the monarch in any case? If he abdicated his crown would the properties not have automatically gone to his brother the heir ?

SixSevenShutUp · 03/05/2026 09:52

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:47

I met a couple who have a niche business restoring chandeliers and had a very interesting conversation with them. They care for the chandeliers in the Bath assembly rooms which they said were the best in the country. They go into these rambling old houses and have to take the chandeliers down, dismantle them piece by piece, clean the glass, rewire them to modern safety standards and reassemble them. They said they see really shocking ones, that have the original wiring from when electricity was introduced, huge fire risk. They were astounded by the state of my local large estate house, horrified at the lack of climate control around the valuable antiques and paintings. Though in a way, it is a lived in country home so I can see it's not easy. Anyway the chandeliers are all clean and up to scratch now.

Not sure they will appreciate you advertising their lack of discretion. Who else are they telling about art works without modern security?

BasiliskStare · 03/05/2026 09:56

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:49

Why would the French govt agree not to tax him! How very strange. Surely also the properties belonged to the monarch in any case? If he abdicated his crown would the properties not have automatically gone to his brother the heir ?

Balmoral and Sandringham are different because they are personally owned.

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:59

So William will own them because they’ll be left to him in Charles’ will but if Charles stepped aside William would have to buy them from his father?

PullTheBricksDown · 03/05/2026 10:18

Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:16

They haven’t made any money on it, they haven’t sold it, they are still living in it.

If this is the case then it's still unhelpful to them because as @Thedom said, that's only money they can access if they sell. Now as a few posters have also said, it would probably be more sensible for them to sell and get a smaller property instead. But they'll need to come up with a convincing narrative for that.

Benio · 03/05/2026 10:27

Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:16

They haven’t made any money on it, they haven’t sold it, they are still living in it.

They have amassed a stonking amount of equity in 5 years.

Indianrollerbird · 03/05/2026 10:46

AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 08:21

The house has had no renovations whatsoever in the whole time they’ve been there. That’s not typical for luxury estates in that area. Anyone buying this will be as a ‘do’er upper’ or ‘tear down’.
So even if the prices have gone up in the area, the lack of development at Casa Sussex will temper those increases.

Tom Sykes said as much in his latest podcast. Along the lines of the Sussexes being a laughing stock, because the house is not a nice one, and your average Montecito billionaire would have torn it down and rebuilt it long before now. If they had any brains, and really wanted to lean into selling the lifestyle “brand”, they would have built an annex where they can be seen to be legitimately hosting/filming “at home.”

MildManneredRepublican · 03/05/2026 10:52

Benio · 03/05/2026 10:27

They have amassed a stonking amount of equity in 5 years.

And probably borrowed against it, given that their behaviour suggests a certain desperation for cash.

They must have been haemorrhaging money 2021-25. And now H is potentially on the hook for huge court losses.

Indianrollerbird · 03/05/2026 10:52

Not2identifying · 03/05/2026 08:32

Great Uncle David was the King which means he got a huge financial settlement when he stepped down to compensate for giving Balmoral, Sandringham and loads more we don't know about to his brother.

I agree that H was naive about money. Meghan herself was new to playing in the big leagues as well.

I think he's always had it in him to be spiteful and nasty. There are snippets from early interviews that give him away. Comments about wanting to get away from the UK, horrible 'banter' with William. But it was like a devil on his shoulder, not the one in control all the time, and he relished all the good press and the 'guy you'd want a pint with' image he had at that time.

I think he'd have liked to have been like a better Margaret. She had a home abroad and spent lots of time away but was still in the fold. He wanted that AND to cash in because Meghan was so aware of what she thought they could earn in the States...

Yes, George VI had to buy all the private residences from Edward iirc. Plus Edward was appointed the Governor General of the Bahamas (I think) so probably accrued an income and pension from
that role.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 10:59

Benio · 03/05/2026 10:27

They have amassed a stonking amount of equity in 5 years.

Not neccessarily.

Unless they're selling today and have found someone prepared to pay that amount, that theoretical value means very little.

CathyorClaire · 03/05/2026 11:00

They got a very good cut price deal on the house but purchased it from a dodgy oligarch:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/harry-meghan-bought-home-russian-22523728

Total speculation but I wonder if Uncle Scandal had some sort of hand in brokering the deal?

It might go some way towards explaining Harold's tightly closed trap on the York antics.

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