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The royal family

PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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bluegreygreen · 03/05/2026 11:12

Congratulations @ShamedBySiri - that's brilliant 🤩

Baital · 03/05/2026 11:19

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:59

So William will own them because they’ll be left to him in Charles’ will but if Charles stepped aside William would have to buy them from his father?

Presumably QE2 left them to Charles. Charles will presumably leave them to William. If he doesn't William doesn't HAVE to buy them, and whoever owns them doesn't HAVE to sell.

At some point they might not want to keep them, just as the RF didn't want Osbourne House after Q Victoria died.

Baital · 03/05/2026 11:21

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 09:49

Why would the French govt agree not to tax him! How very strange. Surely also the properties belonged to the monarch in any case? If he abdicated his crown would the properties not have automatically gone to his brother the heir ?

I've no idea why the French were so accommodating, especially as this was after WW2 with some very dodgy pro-Nazi behaviour from the Windsors. OTOH de Gaulle might have enjoyed annoying the British establishment...

Benio · 03/05/2026 11:45

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 10:59

Not neccessarily.

Unless they're selling today and have found someone prepared to pay that amount, that theoretical value means very little.

Well that’s just the same as any asset / investment from property to, pension pots to stocks and shares.

Seems that they have lucked out on this investment - quite amazing to have accrued so much likely / potential equity in such a short space of time. Maybe it’s their saving grace and where they have likely / potentially made the most profit from all of their endeavours.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/05/2026 11:55

Neither one of them has any idea of how to conduct themselves in a dignified, professional and respectful.manner. If it is running through their heads it is spilling out of their mouths at the same time. Which only proves that neither one has what it takes to represent the RF even if they wanted to

Very well put, @flapjackfairy. Now they're out of opportunities and the A listers are rarely seen, the only focus left is their trashy behaviour and it ain't pretty

On the inheritances/lifestyle affordability I definitely remember Harry saying he wants to keep the bequests for the kids, but it's questionable if he'd be able to resist Meghan demanding access to them, and some even say she'll only be there until Charles goes and she gets to see if any more will be forthcoming

Oh and congratulations from me too, @ShamedBySiri Flowers

bluegreygreen · 03/05/2026 11:58

DaisyDooley · 02/05/2026 21:13

Yes but only since he became King.
It’s been a beloved home for him since he bought it.
I can’t see William wanting to live there ever, - when he becomes King it will be George’s but I suspect it will be turned into some sort of charity/teaching center . I don’t think it would be sold or rented out.
I rather hope it becomes like the Castle of Mey where people can wander around the house and gardens which pay for its upkeep - while capitalising on teaching organic farming methods, cafe/restaurant/shop which helps the Kings Trust to keep helping young people.

My recollection (from a Times article discussed on a thread here last year) is that he took a 20 year lease on Highgrove House in 2021.

Anyway, the relevance is that he wouldn't be leaving the house to Harry. The King's Foundation already has a separate lease of the gardens, so it would make sense when he dies to combine the leases, unless William wants to keep the house for personal use.
It could then work similarly to Dumfries House, which is the headquarters of the Foundation.

OtherS · 03/05/2026 12:00

Benio · 03/05/2026 11:45

Well that’s just the same as any asset / investment from property to, pension pots to stocks and shares.

Seems that they have lucked out on this investment - quite amazing to have accrued so much likely / potential equity in such a short space of time. Maybe it’s their saving grace and where they have likely / potentially made the most profit from all of their endeavours.

But then it's even odder that they don't sell; presumably the longer it's neglected, the lower the price will drop. The grounds especially are surely a big part of the value and if they're not being looked after, they're going to become a lot less appealing very quickly. Annoyingly, you can't just knock down an overgrown jungle and replace it with a beautiful pristine garden in a matter of months, in the same way you can rebuild a house!

MrsFinkelstein · 03/05/2026 12:03

Benio · 03/05/2026 10:27

They have amassed a stonking amount of equity in 5 years.

Have they though? When they bought it they paid $14.5M - it had sold in 2009 for 25M. Then it was put back on the market for 34M, then reduced again and again, until H&M bought it.

Just because something is valued at a certain price - it doesn't mean it will sell for that.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 12:04

Benio · 03/05/2026 11:45

Well that’s just the same as any asset / investment from property to, pension pots to stocks and shares.

Seems that they have lucked out on this investment - quite amazing to have accrued so much likely / potential equity in such a short space of time. Maybe it’s their saving grace and where they have likely / potentially made the most profit from all of their endeavours.

What's your source for the supposed worth of that house and the amount they supposedly paid for it?

MrsFinkelstein · 03/05/2026 12:08

IcedPurple · 03/05/2026 12:04

What's your source for the supposed worth of that house and the amount they supposedly paid for it?

It's a Zillow estimate apparently. Like a Zoopla estimate.

Edit - and the price they paid is public knowledge and has been since they purchased it, as apparently is the mortgage they took out - 9.5M

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:25

So the house cost $14.5 million and they needed a mortgage of $9.5 million ( yikes !) so they were “ only” able to put down a deposit of $5 million? A crazy amount to most people but Sussex fans claim M was a multi millionaire in her own right and we know that KC helped fund their transition.
Does that not seem strange ?

Starryfifty · 03/05/2026 12:29

HoldMyWine · 03/05/2026 07:58

It shows how naive/ ignorant H was when he flounced off on his ‘freedom flight’. He had absolutely no idea how his life until then had been taken care of, and certainly no idea how to pay his own way.
It’s all rather comical. I’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such a prick.

The "freedom flight" was funded by Tyler Perry. He also put them up, took care of him. Zero loyalty from P&H. They won't come out and defend him.

Harry was always obnoxious. It was just hidden in well. Nazi costume, punching people, pinching his sister in law's arse in public

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 12:32

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:25

So the house cost $14.5 million and they needed a mortgage of $9.5 million ( yikes !) so they were “ only” able to put down a deposit of $5 million? A crazy amount to most people but Sussex fans claim M was a multi millionaire in her own right and we know that KC helped fund their transition.
Does that not seem strange ?

There’s no way M was a multi millionaire. Harry is famously tight . If he’d had any sense he would have bought a smaller place outright. He doesn’t want to spend his inheritances.

bluegreygreen · 03/05/2026 12:34

If M was a multi-millionaire in her own right (I have no information about this) why was she living in rented accommodation in Toronto?

Would it not have been wiser to invest in property there?

Indianrollerbird · 03/05/2026 12:36
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@ShamedBySiri Congratulations on your marmalade success! Just how many pots did you make, and will you be willing to do a collab with Meghan?

StartupRepair · 03/05/2026 12:37

M was earning well on Suits but she was retaining a whole Hollywood entourage of agent, lawyer, PR firm. None of that is cheap
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Starryfifty · 03/05/2026 12:43

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 12:32

There’s no way M was a multi millionaire. Harry is famously tight . If he’d had any sense he would have bought a smaller place outright. He doesn’t want to spend his inheritances.

Zero sense. L

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:51

bluegreygreen · 03/05/2026 12:34

If M was a multi-millionaire in her own right (I have no information about this) why was she living in rented accommodation in Toronto?

Would it not have been wiser to invest in property there?

I have asked that question but never actually received an answer! Her fans used to quote her salary per episode however that was for a fairly short period plus she had to live so I have never believed that she was even a millionaire.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:52

Starryfifty · 03/05/2026 12:29

The "freedom flight" was funded by Tyler Perry. He also put them up, took care of him. Zero loyalty from P&H. They won't come out and defend him.

Harry was always obnoxious. It was just hidden in well. Nazi costume, punching people, pinching his sister in law's arse in public

I have read that they owe him a lot of money .

Serenster · 03/05/2026 12:56

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:51

I have asked that question but never actually received an answer! Her fans used to quote her salary per episode however that was for a fairly short period plus she had to live so I have never believed that she was even a millionaire.

People estimating Meghan’s income also tend to forget taxation (with her potentially being liable to pay tax in both Canada and the US as the US taxes its citizens on their worldwide income) plus the percentage she would owe to her agents and her publicity team (10% to her agents, and potentially similar to her publicists).

It doesn’t mean she wasn’t earning a lot, and as a lifestyle blogger I am sure she picked up some impressive freebies, but her salary wasn’t going straight into the bank.

AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 12:56

ShamedBySiri · 03/05/2026 09:27

Totally off topic but some posters may recall from a few threads back that thanks to the sight of Meghan’s horrid looking so called marmalade I was inspired to make some marmalade and enter a jar into the annual Dalemain Marmalade festival.
Yesterday I received my judging results:
A Silver 🥈 award! Very kind judging comments too.

https://www.dalemain.com/the-festival

What a beautiful certificate

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Benio · 03/05/2026 12:58

StartupRepair · 03/05/2026 12:37

M was earning well on Suits but she was retaining a whole Hollywood entourage of agent, lawyer, PR firm. None of that is cheap
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Interesting that she seems to have dispensed with these experts / services now.

Benio · 03/05/2026 13:02

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2026 12:52

I have read that they owe him a lot of money .

I am not sure that they are still in hock to TP but I suspect it was tied up / transactional with some deal with OW as they are business partners. So he greased the wheels / groomed them with the house and OW went in to close the deal on the ‘bombshell’ interview - which they weren’t ‘paid’ for.

noonames · 03/05/2026 13:04

Ducklingfeet · 03/05/2026 09:46

What with various possible trusts, inheritances, and allowances, their finances seem very Byzantine and mysterious to me (although Atlusvue and others have a much better handle on it than I do).

But what stands out to me is that they absolutely appear to be grubbing around for money, in an undignified way. Which makes me think that - whatever the actual numbers are - they aren't financially secure, because otherwise they wouldn't be compromising their image like that. Because image is everything to Meghan, and Harry has never had to think in terms of making money at all. So (to me) it's their behaviour which really indicates financial worries.

I agree with this - very wealthy a successful people don’t use their children to sell generic tat. They don’t generally sell selfies or use photos of unwell children (other people’s of course) to sell their outfits. Neither do they give talks to conferences of Ontario estate agents. They mix with and collaborate with other wealthy and successful people. Plus they tend to have beautiful houses, stylists, and very slick PR operations.

AprilMizzel · 03/05/2026 13:04

Indianrollerbird · 03/05/2026 10:52

Yes, George VI had to buy all the private residences from Edward iirc. Plus Edward was appointed the Governor General of the Bahamas (I think) so probably accrued an income and pension from
that role.

Churchill had to forced him to take the role - basically threaten him with court-martial due to holding some miltary position - to get rid of him during the second world war.

Plus while there he was possibly involved in cover up of murder Sir Harry Oakes, a Canadian multimillionaire, either for momntary gain or to protect his bussiness investments.

There may well have been some pension afterwards though.

I don't think Meghan was ever a multi millionaire - the amount she earned she had to live off with things like 10% going to agents. I also think she assumed Harry was richer than he was - the difference between crown wealth and grace and favour knowledge passing her by.

Even Harry though said something along line that he wanted all the money inherited/earned to go to Archie - I remember thinking wouldn't we all want that but we have to have money to live off mate.

They're adults with enough cash to get expert monetary advice - the security bill should have been considered before any move if they can't afford their lifestsyle they'll have to make changes - they've more options still than most.

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