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The royal family

PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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DaisyDooley · 02/05/2026 21:13

bluegreygreen · 02/05/2026 19:47

Highgrove is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, and Charles rents it from the Duchy.

Yes but only since he became King.
It’s been a beloved home for him since he bought it.
I can’t see William wanting to live there ever, - when he becomes King it will be George’s but I suspect it will be turned into some sort of charity/teaching center . I don’t think it would be sold or rented out.
I rather hope it becomes like the Castle of Mey where people can wander around the house and gardens which pay for its upkeep - while capitalising on teaching organic farming methods, cafe/restaurant/shop which helps the Kings Trust to keep helping young people.

AliceandOscar · 02/05/2026 21:21

MrsFinkelstein · 02/05/2026 10:39

The only people I know who've had vow renewals (admittedly a very small number) are pretty much in 2 groups: (the biggest one) got married young, on a really small budget now have some money and now want the "big day". And tbh, it's usually the wife who wants to wear the big dress.

The 2nd group - it's after an affair. Both couples divorced within 2yrs of the renewal.

The Sussexes certainly don't for in group 1, and for their own sakes (& that of their children) I hope they don't fit group 2.

They need to find a job - both of them, but especially Harry.

Admittedly high jacking the thread but we have been planning a vow renewal for our 40th Wedding anniversary in Las Vegas by a Roswell Alien with us both dressed in Red as it’s our Ruby Anniversary.
Now I’m worried people will think we’ve been cheating when we just wanted a fun party totally different from our very English Church wedding.
Guess we will need to do an announcement that we haven’t been unfaithful to date!

Ohpleeeease · 02/05/2026 22:11

AliceandOscar · 02/05/2026 21:21

Admittedly high jacking the thread but we have been planning a vow renewal for our 40th Wedding anniversary in Las Vegas by a Roswell Alien with us both dressed in Red as it’s our Ruby Anniversary.
Now I’m worried people will think we’ve been cheating when we just wanted a fun party totally different from our very English Church wedding.
Guess we will need to do an announcement that we haven’t been unfaithful to date!

Why does it have to be a vow renewal? Why don’t you just have a wonderful eccentric anniversary celebration? Forty years is something to celebrate!

StrawberryWasp · 02/05/2026 22:29

AliceandOscar · 02/05/2026 21:21

Admittedly high jacking the thread but we have been planning a vow renewal for our 40th Wedding anniversary in Las Vegas by a Roswell Alien with us both dressed in Red as it’s our Ruby Anniversary.
Now I’m worried people will think we’ve been cheating when we just wanted a fun party totally different from our very English Church wedding.
Guess we will need to do an announcement that we haven’t been unfaithful to date!

We renewed our vows in vegas with Elvis for our 30th wedding anniversary! It was such a funny, memorable and emotional night. Just us and our daughters riding down the strip in a limo drinking champagne, then dancing in the chapel with Elvis singing 'I can't help falling in love'.

No affair.

Just a great celebration reaffirming our love and achievement of 30 years of marriage.

I'd totally recommend it!!

HoldMyWine · 02/05/2026 22:31

now if H&M do that I’d be here for it!

Lunde · 02/05/2026 22:46

bluegreygreen · 02/05/2026 19:47

Highgrove is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, and Charles rents it from the Duchy.

I don't think Meghan would be happy to have William as her landlord!

I wonder what will happen to Highgrove?

Lunde · 02/05/2026 22:48

DaisyDooley · 02/05/2026 21:13

Yes but only since he became King.
It’s been a beloved home for him since he bought it.
I can’t see William wanting to live there ever, - when he becomes King it will be George’s but I suspect it will be turned into some sort of charity/teaching center . I don’t think it would be sold or rented out.
I rather hope it becomes like the Castle of Mey where people can wander around the house and gardens which pay for its upkeep - while capitalising on teaching organic farming methods, cafe/restaurant/shop which helps the Kings Trust to keep helping young people.

Possibly a future country home for George, Charlotte, Louis if they are interested. Handy if any of them play polo.

Lunde · 02/05/2026 22:50

AliceandOscar · 02/05/2026 21:21

Admittedly high jacking the thread but we have been planning a vow renewal for our 40th Wedding anniversary in Las Vegas by a Roswell Alien with us both dressed in Red as it’s our Ruby Anniversary.
Now I’m worried people will think we’ve been cheating when we just wanted a fun party totally different from our very English Church wedding.
Guess we will need to do an announcement that we haven’t been unfaithful to date!

I think it's different if planned around a "big anniversary" - but a vow renewal after 8 years if strange.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2026 22:51

ShamedBySiri · 02/05/2026 20:22

It’s possible Highgrove will be earmarked for George, but I think it probably has unhappy memories for William. It wouldn’t surprise me if it will be wrapped up into some sort of gardening educational charity to leave an ongoing legacy of his garden / Highgrove commercial etc. when Charles passes.
I doubt it was ever on the cards for Harry though he probably would have been bought a nice Cotswold mansion. He doesn’t seem to have shown any interest in country matters, be it farming/gardening/racehorses apart from thrashing the hell out of a polo pony and getting stuck into the champagne afterwards.
Indeed, this is one of his problems - he seems to have a shortage of interests. He used to like his drunken fun times (see CGString texts) before marriage but even Sentabale and Africa which he claims to be so attached to were all a bit of a trial when he had to do a fundraising dinner or whatever.

I doubt he would have been happy with a Cotswold mansion and farm.

I agree with that.

Like his mother, Harry seems far more suited to city life. Diana grew up in the country but much preferred London life, whereas Charles is the opposite. I wonder how Harry feels about living in a wealthy but very small town in California? I'm not sure he has much choice in the matter anyway.

Noodledog · 02/05/2026 23:18

CathyorClaire · 02/05/2026 20:45

I think he still has a lot of money

I agree.

I think he's hoarding his inheritances for the dc as he's said and is being bankrolled in his current expenses on the sly by us the Bank of Pa.

I'm really not convinced Harry is capable of that kind of forward planning and self discipline. He's grown up with everything handed to him, and is lacking the intelligence to cope with the reality of having to pay for everything himself.

I also doubt he's being secretly bankrolled. I suspect they are both beginning to panic. They have the amount of money that most people can only dream of- that they've been given only because of who Harry is- but they both have massive delusions of grandeur and the money won't last. Can you imagine Meghan accepting that she can't afford to live in Montecito and moving to a more modest house in a cheaper area?

OtherS · 02/05/2026 23:55

It doesn't need to be a cheaper area though, just a more sensible house. But that would definitely announce failure, to move now into a nice comfortable 5 bed in the same area!

So they would have to move a way away, but it would be easy enough to come up with an excuse that they moved as Montecito was too remote/quiet/elderly and they wanted to go somewhere more vibrant and connected for the sake of the children, their careers etc... So could still be a super exclusive area, just a few fewer bathrooms.

But would they be able to sell it? It looks pretty dated and neglected, I can't see they'll get top dollar for it.

Ohpleeeease · 03/05/2026 00:49

OtherS · 02/05/2026 23:55

It doesn't need to be a cheaper area though, just a more sensible house. But that would definitely announce failure, to move now into a nice comfortable 5 bed in the same area!

So they would have to move a way away, but it would be easy enough to come up with an excuse that they moved as Montecito was too remote/quiet/elderly and they wanted to go somewhere more vibrant and connected for the sake of the children, their careers etc... So could still be a super exclusive area, just a few fewer bathrooms.

But would they be able to sell it? It looks pretty dated and neglected, I can't see they'll get top dollar for it.

There would be many takers for a property previously owned by royalty, unpopular or not. The Meghan Effect may be imaginary but the Royal Effect isn’t.

But the SMWs wouldn’t give it up. Meghan can’t function outside California so they’re stuck in that pile till it falls down around them.

Not2identifying · 03/05/2026 01:07

I think they'd be better behaved if Charles was seriously bankrolling them although I think it's possible he's covering the kids' school fees and health insurance or something equivalent but very specific.

City/country - I've come to the conclusion that Harry is a deeply unhappy person and I think he'd be unhappy anywhere.

AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 07:38

I’m sure there were numerous trusts set up for Harry but that was when he lived in a world when he would have security paid for, a huge estate at peppercorn rent. The millions would go towards sustaining that life.

But the millions in trust, won’t last with his current lifestyle….because there is too much to pay for. NF money has stopped and they immediately got rid of staff and shuttered their foundation.

They don’t have the money to sustain this lifestyle for the next 40 years. Never mind pass anything on to their kids.

I wouldnt even think they have enough for the next 10 years. Hence harry already doing real estate conferences and Meg at wellness retreats. Harry wouldn’t have had a clue about the costs involved in owing a home, paying staff. EVERYTHING was covered by Pa or the taxpayer.

Estimates are they spend between 3-5 milllion a year. Completely unsustainable.

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HoldMyWine · 03/05/2026 07:58

It shows how naive/ ignorant H was when he flounced off on his ‘freedom flight’. He had absolutely no idea how his life until then had been taken care of, and certainly no idea how to pay his own way.
It’s all rather comical. I’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such a prick.

Benio · 03/05/2026 08:07

OtherS · 02/05/2026 23:55

It doesn't need to be a cheaper area though, just a more sensible house. But that would definitely announce failure, to move now into a nice comfortable 5 bed in the same area!

So they would have to move a way away, but it would be easy enough to come up with an excuse that they moved as Montecito was too remote/quiet/elderly and they wanted to go somewhere more vibrant and connected for the sake of the children, their careers etc... So could still be a super exclusive area, just a few fewer bathrooms.

But would they be able to sell it? It looks pretty dated and neglected, I can't see they'll get top dollar for it.

They’ve apparently made an absolute killing on their house - paid £12m for it in 2020 now worth £24m - money makes money.

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:08

HoldMyWine · 03/05/2026 07:58

It shows how naive/ ignorant H was when he flounced off on his ‘freedom flight’. He had absolutely no idea how his life until then had been taken care of, and certainly no idea how to pay his own way.
It’s all rather comical. I’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such a prick.

I used to think he was one of the most likeable members of the family. He came across as very natural and unpretentious, fun and normal. He seems to have completely changed personality since he met Meghan. It’s hard to work out if he was always a peevish spoilt and angry man underneath. Or is it the drugs and her influence? Undoubtedly he was cosseted and many things covered up in the past. I don’t think he ever wanted to leave the UK or his family and friends. He did so because M gave him a choice. Me or them. It’s that simple. Now he lives in more of a bubble than he ever did. He’s lost touch with his friends and family. He only gets away from his wife when he’s off on his jaunts playing at being important , giving pretentious speeches about subjects he knows nothing about or bleating on about his dead Mummy. He is far more trapped and disempowered than he ever was before he Found Freedom.

Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:16

Benio · 03/05/2026 08:07

They’ve apparently made an absolute killing on their house - paid £12m for it in 2020 now worth £24m - money makes money.

They haven’t made any money on it, they haven’t sold it, they are still living in it.

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:19

Thinking about it, how did Great Uncle David pay for his lifestyle when he left to marry Wallis? Presumably inheritances which they must have been careful to spend wisely. I wonder if he was bankrolled by the King. In which case I can see why Harry thought he’d be OK.

AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 08:21

The house has had no renovations whatsoever in the whole time they’ve been there. That’s not typical for luxury estates in that area. Anyone buying this will be as a ‘do’er upper’ or ‘tear down’.
So even if the prices have gone up in the area, the lack of development at Casa Sussex will temper those increases.

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AtIusvue · 03/05/2026 08:23

Also SNL just said that KC3 was in the US to bring back a British hostage taken by an American terrorist…..cut to pic of Harry and Meg.

Im guessing she will file this in ‘the most bullied person world’ cabinet of grievances in the war room.

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Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:24

Before he met Meghan, when he was a Prince and a serving member of the British army, he is on record saying he didn’t like the UK.

I think Meghan emboldened him and his bitterness,

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:24

Meghan had never owned a property before they moved there and neither had Harry. Maintaining a huge estate like that and managing staff that are employed directly by them must be a massive challenge.

LaurenBacal · 03/05/2026 08:25

Thedom · 03/05/2026 08:24

Before he met Meghan, when he was a Prince and a serving member of the British army, he is on record saying he didn’t like the UK.

I think Meghan emboldened him and his bitterness,

Oh really? Another very unwise remark.

Not2identifying · 03/05/2026 08:32

Great Uncle David was the King which means he got a huge financial settlement when he stepped down to compensate for giving Balmoral, Sandringham and loads more we don't know about to his brother.

I agree that H was naive about money. Meghan herself was new to playing in the big leagues as well.

I think he's always had it in him to be spiteful and nasty. There are snippets from early interviews that give him away. Comments about wanting to get away from the UK, horrible 'banter' with William. But it was like a devil on his shoulder, not the one in control all the time, and he relished all the good press and the 'guy you'd want a pint with' image he had at that time.

I think he'd have liked to have been like a better Margaret. She had a home abroad and spent lots of time away but was still in the fold. He wanted that AND to cash in because Meghan was so aware of what she thought they could earn in the States...

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