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The royal family

PR Disasters….Part 8

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AtIusvue · 15/04/2026 09:57

PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

  • So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
  • She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
  • Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.
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MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:15

jeffgoldblum · 15/04/2026 21:59

The queen said no ! , you are in or out , no monetisation of titles! , it was a gentleman’s agreement with someone who isn’t a gentleman!

I think that bit was unrealistic of the Queen though. Even if Harry didn't use his title it's still there. Even if it was removed it's still there. The only thing that palace can control is saying they can't be working Royals whilst also having commercial ventures.

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:17

AtIusvue · 16/04/2026 07:10

Also at the mental health summit, more nuggets from the Harry include:

  • Being a working Royal killed Diana. That’s interesting seen as she wasn’t when she died and had she been, she wouldn’t have been in that car.
  • Saying what everyone knows already: ’When I was invited to speak at this summit, I wasn’t sure whether I was expected to speak as someone who, despite everything, has their s* together,' he said.'Or as someone who, despite what it may look like, actually doesn’t have his shit together’.….we all know Harry that you’re a moody middle-aged man with stunted emotional intelligence …we know you ain’t got your shit together.

Ah bless, what a load of cobblers he talks. Why people still ask him to these things i have no idea.

Thedom · 16/04/2026 08:19

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:15

I think that bit was unrealistic of the Queen though. Even if Harry didn't use his title it's still there. Even if it was removed it's still there. The only thing that palace can control is saying they can't be working Royals whilst also having commercial ventures.

The thing is, Harry is so resentful and vengeful, he would continue to use his titles, with just a big ‘F-You’ to everyone to provoke as many people as he could.

Upside would be some gold interviews of him trying to destroy everyone in his orbit,

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:21

Thedom · 16/04/2026 08:19

The thing is, Harry is so resentful and vengeful, he would continue to use his titles, with just a big ‘F-You’ to everyone to provoke as many people as he could.

Upside would be some gold interviews of him trying to destroy everyone in his orbit,

Exactly. What Harry and Meghan show is that is actually quite hard to stop people doing what they want, as long as they don't break the law.

ShamedBySiri · 16/04/2026 08:23

Apparently it was 75 degrees but there were clothes to sell.

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Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:23

Mylovelygreendress · 16/04/2026 07:38

That dress does her no favours .

She looks like a baked potato. For the second time this tour. She's trolling with the "pantyhose" she claimed (in response to Jamie Kern Lima) she hadn't worn since childhood and only the RF made her wear.

AtIusvue · 16/04/2026 08:26

Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:23

She looks like a baked potato. For the second time this tour. She's trolling with the "pantyhose" she claimed (in response to Jamie Kern Lima) she hadn't worn since childhood and only the RF made her wear.

She also said it in the Bloomberg interview….that she hadn’t seen tights since the 80s

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AtIusvue · 16/04/2026 08:26

Also 10 denier black tights isn’t a day look

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 16/04/2026 08:26

Establishing valid consent for publications about children with medical conditions is actually part of my job.

And the key element that is missing here for me is time.

There's such an imbalance of power in any such circumstances that you can't wholly mitigate it. You can check and check again, but one of the main ways you can mitigate against invalid consent is time.

Get permission. Take the photos. Prepare your content. Give them choices about the content. Give them time to reconsider. And be 100% ready to retract it at any stage.

That's all missing from this.

jeffgoldblum · 16/04/2026 08:28

AtIusvue · 16/04/2026 08:26

Also 10 denier black tights isn’t a day look

Not a good look on someone with such thin legs either!

LondonRidge · 16/04/2026 08:30

Basically the whole point of this business trip was to remind everyone that they are the MOST VICTIMISED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD and NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW HARD THEIR LIFE IS.

No one else has ever lost their mum, and definitely not William. And no one else has ever been bullied the way meghan has. Poor her. It’s so sad that she has to make up lies in return for millions, and it’s just NOT FAIR that people call them out for it when they see all the BS. The plebs are supposed to stand there and clap their hands adoringly at everything you say and do, that’s their job when you’re ROYAL.

They go to these things to talk about themselves, they’ve no interest in anyone else’s life because it can’t possibly be so hard. The only thing in their heads is themselves, ever. Life is a massive PR exercise trying to convince people to like you. Thing is - it’s not something that anyone should have to work that hard at really is it. I wonder if they’ve ever asked themselves why that might be. Or just continue assuming it’s an everyone else problem.

flapjackfairy · 16/04/2026 08:30

GloiredeDijon · 16/04/2026 07:21

You are right but it should be remembered that Diana famously claimed to have thrown herself down the stairs whilst pregnant with William, although most involved agree this was in fact an accident which she rewrote to better fit her narrative in the Andrew Morton book.

MM loves to copy Diana in order to press H’s psychological buttons.

I often think that Harry has the worst of his mother’s nature, ie emotional lability, impulsivity, gullibility and limited critical thinking without her best bits such as her integrity, kindness, humour and lack of pretension.

yes absolutely. She was using it as a tactic to control Harry for sure but regardless of whether she meant it or not that little boy is going to grow up to read that his mother was suicidal when pregnant with him and wanted to die and his father was dissociated, needed therapy and struggled with parenthood . What on earth do they think that is going to do for his mental health ? They are so self absorbed that they dont seem to even be able to.put the childrens needs above their own.
And then they lecture others on parenting and criticise their own parents. They are deluded and v lacking in any ability to self reflect it seems.
And in other news there are rumours some of the parents from the children's hosp were.less than impressed and may consider legal action !

LondonRidge · 16/04/2026 08:40

The whole BS about lack of therapy and support for MM after Archie was born… when he now says he was having it himself, has really angered me. He has no idea that people in the real work have to wait months or years any kind of counselling, if they can even access any at all.

Also - what on earth was going on with them that they both had so many MH problems and needed that much therapy just for… having had a baby?? With all the help on hand they needed in the world, but no… having a baby for them was definitely harder than it was for anyone else.

They are each others worst enemy. It’s like one of them has a MH problems, the other has to one up them to make it worse…??

Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:41

And in other news there are rumours some of the parents from the children's hosp were.less than impressed and may consider legal action !

I doubt anything will happen. It would be fabulous of one of them could actually go on camera and say they are unhappy about what occurred. That won't happen either. (I'll be delighted to be proven wrong.)

Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:45

LondonRidge · 16/04/2026 08:40

The whole BS about lack of therapy and support for MM after Archie was born… when he now says he was having it himself, has really angered me. He has no idea that people in the real work have to wait months or years any kind of counselling, if they can even access any at all.

Also - what on earth was going on with them that they both had so many MH problems and needed that much therapy just for… having had a baby?? With all the help on hand they needed in the world, but no… having a baby for them was definitely harder than it was for anyone else.

They are each others worst enemy. It’s like one of them has a MH problems, the other has to one up them to make it worse…??

If it is true Meghan had the baby at the Portland, then she would definitely have had anti natal and post natal therapy on demand - even on the basic package, which she wouldn't have had, she'd have had the all bells and whistles package. Why does no journalist or interviewer challenge this absolute bullshit? Why don't writers and commentators like Tom Bower look into these claims, and set out what the Portland actually does offer instead of leaving it ambiguous?

Guest385 · 16/04/2026 08:46

If H never wanted to be royal (see daily mail) why has he insisted his kids are titled as Prince and Princess?? Is this not generational harm?

Ohpleeeease · 16/04/2026 08:49

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:15

I think that bit was unrealistic of the Queen though. Even if Harry didn't use his title it's still there. Even if it was removed it's still there. The only thing that palace can control is saying they can't be working Royals whilst also having commercial ventures.

I don’t think it was unrealistic of the Queen to think they would “retire” gracefully from public life; other royals have managed it, e.g. the very popular Duchess of Kent.

I don’t think any of the RF, with the possible exception of Prince Philip, fully appreciated what Harry had got himself hooked up with. They are stuck with an unmanageable problem.

It would help if the Palace and Government were aligned on their approach. The UK ambassadors in the countries they are visiting have no business welcoming them, as happened in Jordan.

Charles should stop his scheming to try and bring Harry back into the fold as though the past didn’t happen, it didn’t work with Camilla who is as unpopular as ever despite years of keeping her head down and committing herself to her role, and it won’t work with Harry and Meghan Markle who have done neither.

Mylovelygreendress · 16/04/2026 08:50

Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:45

If it is true Meghan had the baby at the Portland, then she would definitely have had anti natal and post natal therapy on demand - even on the basic package, which she wouldn't have had, she'd have had the all bells and whistles package. Why does no journalist or interviewer challenge this absolute bullshit? Why don't writers and commentators like Tom Bower look into these claims, and set out what the Portland actually does offer instead of leaving it ambiguous?

I tend to think journalists are sitting on a lot of stuff which will only emerge when/ if H and M divorce .

Indianrollerbird · 16/04/2026 08:53

Mylovelygreendress · 16/04/2026 08:50

I tend to think journalists are sitting on a lot of stuff which will only emerge when/ if H and M divorce .

But why? Why does a divorce make these claims any more challengeable? It's not a state secret what the Portland Hospital maternity care package includes.

I really don't think they will divorce, either.

StartupRepair · 16/04/2026 09:14

Weather in Melbourne has been completely mad today. It has been windy, warm (at one point 25), then it poured with rain. Autumn.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/04/2026 09:22

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2026 21:16

Not so sure . I very much doubt William will ever engage with him again .

I agree. It's only my opinion, but I don't believe Harry realises just how f*cked his relationship with William is.

It's my impression that Harry tends to lash out impulsively, but then could move on (like Charles). William is more like Diana - he does have a temper but he rarely lashes out, and he never forgets. He's stubborn like Diana and once you're locked out - that's it. You'd think Harry would realise this - he grew up with William, but I don't think Harry ever really thinks anything through frankly.

Anyhoo - funny how Harry got therapy for him but couldn't get any for Meghan while she was pregnant.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/04/2026 09:37

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 08:15

I think that bit was unrealistic of the Queen though. Even if Harry didn't use his title it's still there. Even if it was removed it's still there. The only thing that palace can control is saying they can't be working Royals whilst also having commercial ventures.

IMO, at the time of the Sandringham Summit, I can imagine TLQ and Charles both thought H&M would probably be content living in a big house somewhere (they were still in Canada at that point), going to a few parties, working with their own charities, maybe Mergie doing the odd Hollywood thing, with Charles still bunging them a few million/year. Maybe popping over to the UK to stay in Frogmore occasionally.

This was before H&M went nuclear with Oprah, NF, Spotify, Variety, The Cut, Spare etc. I don't think the RF could quite envision exactly what H&Ma version of Megixt would be, otherwise they may have been more prescriptive in the Sandringham Summit final version.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 16/04/2026 09:45

LondonRidge · 16/04/2026 08:30

Basically the whole point of this business trip was to remind everyone that they are the MOST VICTIMISED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD and NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW HARD THEIR LIFE IS.

No one else has ever lost their mum, and definitely not William. And no one else has ever been bullied the way meghan has. Poor her. It’s so sad that she has to make up lies in return for millions, and it’s just NOT FAIR that people call them out for it when they see all the BS. The plebs are supposed to stand there and clap their hands adoringly at everything you say and do, that’s their job when you’re ROYAL.

They go to these things to talk about themselves, they’ve no interest in anyone else’s life because it can’t possibly be so hard. The only thing in their heads is themselves, ever. Life is a massive PR exercise trying to convince people to like you. Thing is - it’s not something that anyone should have to work that hard at really is it. I wonder if they’ve ever asked themselves why that might be. Or just continue assuming it’s an everyone else problem.

That is basically what I was going to write.

I actually feel sorry for them, to believe that they are so hard done by, to fail to see the suffering of others, can not be a great place to inhabit.

Comment sections on newspapers used to be mixed, many people believed in the 'freedom flight' however now everyone appears to be sick of them.

The world is going to hell in a handcart and yet we are meant to believe that they are the most victimised/injured/hard done by. It doesn't wash anymore.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 16/04/2026 09:47

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 16/04/2026 08:26

Establishing valid consent for publications about children with medical conditions is actually part of my job.

And the key element that is missing here for me is time.

There's such an imbalance of power in any such circumstances that you can't wholly mitigate it. You can check and check again, but one of the main ways you can mitigate against invalid consent is time.

Get permission. Take the photos. Prepare your content. Give them choices about the content. Give them time to reconsider. And be 100% ready to retract it at any stage.

That's all missing from this.

This is also very good.

Yes, letting the people see the photos and being aware of how they might be shared is so important.

I am still furious about this.

corblimeygvnr · 16/04/2026 09:58

Guest385 · 16/04/2026 08:46

If H never wanted to be royal (see daily mail) why has he insisted his kids are titled as Prince and Princess?? Is this not generational harm?

And Prince of what ? Fuck all ! He says he felt useless as a Spare so how will that manifest for Archie? Why am I a Prince, Papa? You're a Prince because you are my son and I'm a Prince. I thought you didn't like being a Prince, Papa? Ah well I like the platform and $$$$ it gives me - I just don't want to do the boring stuff.

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