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The royal family

PR Disasters….Part 8

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AtIusvue · 15/04/2026 09:57

PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

  • So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
  • She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
  • Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.
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bluegreygreen · 20/04/2026 11:10

Archive link to DM Sarah Vine story https://archive.is/92bxe

Archive link to Guardian story https://archive.is/KazB9

StillSpartacus · 20/04/2026 11:15

The thing with the candles, is at that price point, they are the sort of thing you would buy as a treat or a gift. The connotations need to be aspirational luxury. Naming it after a child doesn’t do that for me, even if if said child has a silly title.

TheAutumnCrow · 20/04/2026 11:33

StillSpartacus · 20/04/2026 11:15

The thing with the candles, is at that price point, they are the sort of thing you would buy as a treat or a gift. The connotations need to be aspirational luxury. Naming it after a child doesn’t do that for me, even if if said child has a silly title.

The child's-prince-name-with-numbers is very 'At Home With The Furys'.

Prince Tyson 2
Prince Archie 506

Maybe they really are going to do 'At Home With The Sussexes'. Harry can call M 'Duchess', H is 'Prince 1', A is 'Prince 2', and L is 'Princess' (fortuitously adding a bit of the ol' Price-Andre glitterdust), lest we forget who they are.

Treylime · 20/04/2026 12:01

Going back To M's Q&A at the Retreat. This is all she had to say about Archie's personality - that he loves Meghan. “Archie is so tender – no one told me how much boys love their mothers”.
Other peoples main characteristic is that they love her. Hasnt she said similar about Harry taking about how much he loves her and never vice versa.

Starryfifty · 20/04/2026 12:04

Treylime · 20/04/2026 12:01

Going back To M's Q&A at the Retreat. This is all she had to say about Archie's personality - that he loves Meghan. “Archie is so tender – no one told me how much boys love their mothers”.
Other peoples main characteristic is that they love her. Hasnt she said similar about Harry taking about how much he loves her and never vice versa.

Said the same about H. It's very odd. It's always how much they love her and not her love for them.

Lostallhistory · 20/04/2026 12:05

Treylime · 20/04/2026 12:01

Going back To M's Q&A at the Retreat. This is all she had to say about Archie's personality - that he loves Meghan. “Archie is so tender – no one told me how much boys love their mothers”.
Other peoples main characteristic is that they love her. Hasnt she said similar about Harry taking about how much he loves her and never vice versa.

She has , is that all there is to the poor boy? She can't think of a single other thing about his personality?

StillSpartacus · 20/04/2026 12:06

Exactly @TheAutumnCrow it’s quite the image. Of a £5 B&M wannabe

DirtyGertyy · 20/04/2026 12:13

StillSpartacus · 20/04/2026 11:15

The thing with the candles, is at that price point, they are the sort of thing you would buy as a treat or a gift. The connotations need to be aspirational luxury. Naming it after a child doesn’t do that for me, even if if said child has a silly title.

But this is typical MM grandiose, delusional arrogance - she can’t comprehend why anyone wouldn’t aspire to have a connection with her ‘exceptional’ children.

Because you know they are ‘totally amazing’ as she gushed to the interviewer whilst sat next to grieving parents who had lost their own child to suicide.

Narcs believe that they were the first to parent, that their child is the most beautiful, special, intelligent, spectacular - because they are an extension of their own beautiful, special, intelligent, spectacular self - so much more beautiful, special, intelligent and spectacular than YOUR children.

She is so crushingly self righteous and un self aware it’s actually excruciating. I have toe curling second hand embarrassment for her once I’ve picked myself up off the floor from laughing at her.

Does she not know the analogy that:

”Children are like farts, your own are barely tolerable and other peoples are vile”

Maybe she should make an Egg McMuffin / Fart scented candle for the bantz.

Of course that wouldn’t be possible because someone so consumed with curating a false external image has zero emotional energy free for fun.

Lunde · 20/04/2026 12:15

BasiliskStare · 20/04/2026 10:00

There is what I think is quite a good article in the DM today by Sarah Vine ( not clever enough to post an archive link - but an excerpt below. )

I think , combined with M's trolling remarks , H&M's victimhood must surely be hurting their "brand" .

"Whole suitcases of hurt and resentment, which he regularly unpacks in public, occasionally lobbing the contents at those he blames for his misfortunes.
Like a wounded animal, he lashes out: his father, his brother, his sister-in-law, the press – anyone who gets in his way or dares to question the wisdom of his actions or behaviour. Is he even aware of how toxic his actions can seem, or of the great harm they cause?
Or is his behaviour just that of a very angry, very spoilt, very sad little boy who, even at the age of 41 and a father himself, is still grieving the loss of his mummy?
Not that any of that is an excuse. We all have degrees of personal agony in our lives, but not all of us use it to destroy the lives of others, as Prince Harry has repeatedly done."

He does seem stuck at that "angry little boy" stage

He's not really a good advert for his decades of therapy or his $1million a year role as Chief Impact Officer for Better Up's MH coaching

Sadly he seems to be passing his struggles on to his own children with all that stuff he said about Archie picking up on his stress and crying when Harry comes home from work - more generational pain?

I admire William that the therapy he had helped him focus on being the best father he can be and wants to be a present father in the lives of his children unlike traditional royal upbringings. A shame he gets it in the neck for doing it.

AtIusvue · 20/04/2026 12:20

Treylime · 20/04/2026 12:01

Going back To M's Q&A at the Retreat. This is all she had to say about Archie's personality - that he loves Meghan. “Archie is so tender – no one told me how much boys love their mothers”.
Other peoples main characteristic is that they love her. Hasnt she said similar about Harry taking about how much he loves her and never vice versa.

Yes, that stuck out to me too.

In WLM2 …they were making Xmas crackers. One for Archie and one for Lili. They personalised them.

We got that Lili was super girly…so puts in a perfume etc but all she said of Archie is he is the sweetest. Absolutely zero about his personality and she ends up putting some burger toy in his cracker. It was weird.
They made aprons for the kids in an earlier series …Lilis was made to reflect her personality….Meg said nothing about Archie and made something very generic.
The boy is nearly 7, yet his whole personality is being framed around how sweet he is to his mother. So odd

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My2cents1975 · 20/04/2026 12:24

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/04/2026 23:01

I’ve just posted this on the Australia thread

Sounds like Charlotte Griffiths is no longer going to keep quiet, she was being interviewed and she says Harry will be banned from William’s Coronation and the first thing he will do is remove him from the line of succession and probably take away his titles, as CG runs with that set she wouldn’t say it unless sure of what she was reporting.

IMHO, I doubt G-strings has any idea what future King William will do. W was traumatised by his front row seat during the War of the Wales, so plays his cards very close to the vest especially with the press.

W's coronation will involve family members who have been attacked and disrespected by H and his Sussex Squad trolls, from Catherine & kids to cousins e.g. Tindalls/Phillips/Edinburgh/Lady Gabriella/etc. Why would W accommodate H who is not a part of his life anymore and make everyone else's life more difficult on what is meant to be a joyous occasion?

I think it is simply media speculation from G-strings for clicks and views.

AtIusvue · 20/04/2026 12:32

Also, I’m pretty sure most 7 year old boys would be mortified that their mum was bringing out a scented candle with their name..:full title and everything, to the world. Can you imagine the kids at school and the ribbing he would get?!

What on earth are they thinking by exposing their kids like this.

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Lunde · 20/04/2026 12:33

Recklessismymiddlename · 20/04/2026 10:17

Didn’t one of the Scandinavian monarchies decree if wanted to have titles, then had to be brought up in the country? IIRC it was Sweden..

yes I think it was, so Princess Madeleine, went back to Sweden from the US, with her DCs.

if I’m wrong someone will be along to correct.

William could decree that. Would also possibly deal with Eugenie issue, if true she’s living in Portugal. Then only the problem of Beatrice to deal with.

But H&M could call William’s bluff but I can’t see Meghan coming back willingly.

Yes in Sweden you have to be educated in Sweden if you want to be eligible for the LoS as an adult. Princess Madeleine moved back from Florida when her eldest was around 11. It's a but ludicrous to have Archie and Lilibet in the LoS who will grow up knowing nothing of British history, culture, geography etc.

Denmark also stripped all titles from Prince Joakim's (the 2nd son) children - Queen Margarethe just announced it before she abdicated that only the heir's children would be Prince/princess - so overnight Prince Nikolai, Prince Felix, Prince Henrik and Princess Athena became Count/Countess of Monpezat instead.

So they are not working royals. Denmark slimmed down so that the spare's family would pursue their own careers. Joakim himself has a Military career after advanced military college studies and is currently Military attaché at the Embassy in Washington. The oldest kids - Count Nikolai and Count Felix have both done some modelling/acting but Nicolai recently graduated from Copenhagen business school and works for The Confederation of Danish Industry.

BasiliskStare · 20/04/2026 12:36

@My2cents1975 Agree . I don't believe that journalist knows for a moment who W won't invite to his Coronation. If I'm honest , given his father is still alive I doubt W really knows who he won't invite down to the last relative. He may have some views and I am sure planning goes on way in advance but just at the moment I don't believe anything is set in stone.

binkie163 · 20/04/2026 12:36

@BasiliskStare bloody hell Sarah vine didn't pull any punches! He is indeed angry, spoilt, whiny and sad ouch that's gonna hurt.

BasiliskStare · 20/04/2026 13:05

binkie163 · 20/04/2026 12:36

@BasiliskStare bloody hell Sarah vine didn't pull any punches! He is indeed angry, spoilt, whiny and sad ouch that's gonna hurt.

Do you think it will hurt him , or do you think it will be another example of the nasty British media ? I know where my money is 😊

My2cents1975 · 20/04/2026 13:06

DirtyGertyy · 20/04/2026 12:13

But this is typical MM grandiose, delusional arrogance - she can’t comprehend why anyone wouldn’t aspire to have a connection with her ‘exceptional’ children.

Because you know they are ‘totally amazing’ as she gushed to the interviewer whilst sat next to grieving parents who had lost their own child to suicide.

Narcs believe that they were the first to parent, that their child is the most beautiful, special, intelligent, spectacular - because they are an extension of their own beautiful, special, intelligent, spectacular self - so much more beautiful, special, intelligent and spectacular than YOUR children.

She is so crushingly self righteous and un self aware it’s actually excruciating. I have toe curling second hand embarrassment for her once I’ve picked myself up off the floor from laughing at her.

Does she not know the analogy that:

”Children are like farts, your own are barely tolerable and other peoples are vile”

Maybe she should make an Egg McMuffin / Fart scented candle for the bantz.

Of course that wouldn’t be possible because someone so consumed with curating a false external image has zero emotional energy free for fun.

M went to school in America, so I have no idea why she is setting her kids up to be brutally teased in middle school.

(Middle school is sixth to eighth grade and these 11-13 year olds are going through puberty with all sorts of hormones flying and are enduring a step change in academic/sporting demands. Social dynamics are all over the show and bullying can be rife.)

Enter A&L. A prince and princess with no cash and no castle. Just two broke (by Montecito standards) parents. No relationship with the King (either Grandpa or possibly by then Uncle) and no hope of a relationship with Cousin George or his siblings or the extended family of cousins all of whom have been abused by the Sussex Squad. Their dad has talked about his todger in public...about thinking of their famous dead Grandma while using Elizabeth Arden cream.

For A, his mom talked about him being tender and his dad talked about A crying. Then there are these internet weirdos who go on about being his aunties.

What on earth are H&M thinking? Middle school is going to be brutal on these kids because their parents are oversharing to make money from them.

IMHO, it will backfire spectacularly.

Rhaidimiddim · 20/04/2026 13:46

StillSpartacus · 20/04/2026 11:15

The thing with the candles, is at that price point, they are the sort of thing you would buy as a treat or a gift. The connotations need to be aspirational luxury. Naming it after a child doesn’t do that for me, even if if said child has a silly title.

AND a silly name.

BasiliskStare · 20/04/2026 13:55

@My2cents1975 I absolutely agree with you. Don't even normal, by which I mean not globally famous , parents try not to embarrass their children. I get H &M are making a thing of SM for children. I have sympathy with that. But arguably for children of very famous parents, mainstream media , TV , published books , might be equally embarrassing. Didn't Eton try to shield W from the fallout from Diana's Panorama interview? I really think H&M have their heads up their arses (excuse language ) at times when it comes to their children. Why eg put down what you think are their attributes on candles you are trying to flog. Merching (what you think are) their personalities.

bluegreygreen · 20/04/2026 14:04

I do hope (given the story of Meghan being surprised when the RF were the same behind the scenes as in public) that Sussex family life is better than we might anticipate, and that the children are sensibly prepared for some of these eventualities.

If not, the best thing to hope is that one or more of the nannies is sensible, and the children grow up without seeing much of the media furore themselves (at least for a while).

Their peers will have seen it, and no doubt they will see it when they reach that age, but if they have a chance to make good friendships they will have support even if others are obnoxious.

MarmaladeorJam · 20/04/2026 14:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/04/2026 09:58

I don't have quite the same faith as some in "what William will do" - we'll have to wait and see - but while I wouldn't wish an earlier death on anyone there's no denying that little has gone right since Charles took over

I'd rather have none of them, but at least the Queen managed some kind of moral authority, if only based on a long reign doing what she perceived to be her duty

Apart from the Prince's Trust - possibly the best thing he ever did - what exactly has Charles done except prate at us, whine and please himself?

I am not convinced that the Queen had moral authority?

Her family's financial success was always ahead of anything that was good for the country. She used her power to set up systems that benefitted them but not us, and some of them are, at the very least, dubious. Let's not even dwell on AMW.

I also think that anyone who organizes a ten day funeral for themselves has a really high opinion of themselves, and demands it from everyone else as well. I said that at the time too.

I actually thought KC would be better than E11 (I was not a fan!) but I have been so disappointed in him - he is worse!

TheAutumnCrow · 20/04/2026 14:26

My2cents1975 · 20/04/2026 13:06

M went to school in America, so I have no idea why she is setting her kids up to be brutally teased in middle school.

(Middle school is sixth to eighth grade and these 11-13 year olds are going through puberty with all sorts of hormones flying and are enduring a step change in academic/sporting demands. Social dynamics are all over the show and bullying can be rife.)

Enter A&L. A prince and princess with no cash and no castle. Just two broke (by Montecito standards) parents. No relationship with the King (either Grandpa or possibly by then Uncle) and no hope of a relationship with Cousin George or his siblings or the extended family of cousins all of whom have been abused by the Sussex Squad. Their dad has talked about his todger in public...about thinking of their famous dead Grandma while using Elizabeth Arden cream.

For A, his mom talked about him being tender and his dad talked about A crying. Then there are these internet weirdos who go on about being his aunties.

What on earth are H&M thinking? Middle school is going to be brutal on these kids because their parents are oversharing to make money from them.

IMHO, it will backfire spectacularly.

Remember American Pie 2? 'Don't forget your penis cream'.

Imagine having that shouted at you across the schoolyard every day when you're twelve because of your dad's stupid indiscretions that are now part of the culture.

(Weirdly Eugene Levy the actor who delivered that great deadpan line did the recent excellent interview/chat with William about his plans for the monarchy. Worth a watch.)

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/04/2026 14:41

Would anyone want to bit a candle that smells of someone else's children? That seems a really really odd way to market them.

BasiliskStare · 20/04/2026 14:47

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/04/2026 14:41

Would anyone want to bit a candle that smells of someone else's children? That seems a really really odd way to market them.

Yes and to me describing their personalities. These are young children. Don't pigeonhole them to flog a few candles.

IcedPurple · 20/04/2026 14:51

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/04/2026 14:41

Would anyone want to bit a candle that smells of someone else's children? That seems a really really odd way to market them.

You gotta admit though.

Those children really do have spectacular backs of heads.

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