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The royal family

PR Disasters….Part 8

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AtIusvue · 15/04/2026 09:57

PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

  • So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
  • She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
  • Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.
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bluegreygreen · 18/04/2026 11:52

I enjoyed @GivemeSpanakopita's insights into PR - I hope she's OK.

I didn't fully agree with her view on Harry's rehabilitation, though I did appreciate her point on the RF timeline being different to a celebrity one.

I also thought I saw some mellowing towards Harry (as separate to Meghan) over time in reporting, but I think with his court case and now with the Sentebale action that has changed again.

Indianrollerbird · 18/04/2026 11:58

Mylovelygreendress · 18/04/2026 11:36

So could KC order H and M to stop using their titles and issue a statement confirming that ?
If H and M are as wonderful and successful as their supporters think , lack of titles shouldn’t matter should it ??
I definitely agree with those who say they should be removed from the Royal website .

It’s so easily done. Under “Members of the Royal Family” you have Charles, Camilla, William, Cathrine, Anne, Edward, Sophie, the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Duke of Kent and Princess Alexandra. And then Harry & Meghan. All bar the Sussexes are working royals. But this is not the extent of the “royal family”, which includes all the non-working royal children and (whether we like it or not) AMW. So why they don’t just change the page to “working royals” and take out the Sussexes is beyond me - especially as each bio specifically states they are working royals (or not, in the case of the Sussexes). Even taking out the link to the Sussex websites, and hence their commercial enterprises, would be something.

bluegreygreen · 18/04/2026 12:02

@AtIusvue Yes, as I said in my post, his name was removed from the Roll of the Peerage by the Lord Chancellor, who has the job of upkeep of the Roll.

However, that doesn't remove the peerage itself, just means he isn't addressed by the title. From the document linked above:

Any peer not entered on the roll shall not “be addressed or referred to by any title attaching to his Peerage in any civil or military Commission, Letters Patent, or other official document”. Removal from the roll, however, does not extinguish the peerage itself.

Mylovelygreendress · 18/04/2026 12:05

AtIusvue · 18/04/2026 11:49

All they did with Andrew was remove his name from some sort of Duke Roll. You don’t need an act of parliament.

Harry probably doesn’t know or understand about the Duke Roll.
The most important thing for him and M is the actual title .

corblimeygvnr · 18/04/2026 12:19

Now if I had been stupid enough to pay $$$ for that weekend I would be pissed off with men sitting there !

Indianrollerbird · 18/04/2026 12:22

corblimeygvnr · 18/04/2026 12:19

Now if I had been stupid enough to pay $$$ for that weekend I would be pissed off with men sitting there !

Not exactly the sisterhood/feminist, is it? "Gotta go now, my husband wants to go to the rugby." They were obviously wanting a picture at every type of venue/event that William and Catherine would be seen at during royal duties.

Tiddlywinks63 · 18/04/2026 12:25

BigWillyLittleTodger · 16/04/2026 23:27

Christian Dior iridescent black leather high heels, although they appear to have already sold out at $120 (£89) a pair.

Christian Dior leather high heels certainly don’t cost £89 a pair! They range from £750 to £1200 a pair

so what’s that all about then?

ShoeZone version?

Lunde · 18/04/2026 12:29

AtIusvue · 18/04/2026 10:38

An account of the event, which is clearly written in positive terms but confirms there wasn’t 300…it says more than 200. So 201 then…less Megs entourage….that will make it 190. Dire!

Also said, ‘some’ had paid thousands to be in the room. Eh? Shouldn’t that be all? Otherwise it does look to be true that they gave out free/cut price tickets.

weird points:

  • crowd described as ‘multigenerational’ …which is code for old 😂
  • Meg n Harry make a point of having brekkie and lunch together. Fine, they work from home- so then why aren’t you having dinner together???Thats the meal most people share and what I’d image the perfect parents that they think they are, then they would all sit as a family and eat. Weird.
  • Meg and Harry do turn doing drop offs…but no mention of pick ups…what is happening late afternoon/evening when the pair of them seem to disappear?

https://archive.ph/9wSWB

Freedom by George Michael boomed as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, took the stage at the Her Best Life retreat gala dinner in Sydney on Friday afternoon.
Helped by husband Prince Harry, a surprise guest at the event who held her hand as she walked up, the duchess wore a cream two-piece from Australian label Scanlan Theodore for her conversation with the event’s organiser, Gemma O’Neill.
They spoke to a rapt audience of more than 200 women, some of whom had paid thousands to be in the room, at the Coogee Beach InterContinental hotel about Meghan’s career, family life and the trappings of fame – although questions about her former royal life seemed to be off the table.

It was the headline event of the three-day retreat, and the penultimate stop on Meghan and Harry’s Australian tour, which ended with their attendance at the Waratahs-Moana Pasifika rugby match that night.
Earlier on Friday attendees checked in to the hotel as media were kept at a distance, told not to approach guests.
Liliana Sanelli, 49, travelled from Melbourne to attend the retreat with her best friend. The entrepreneur and philanthropist said the Q&A between O’Neill and Meghan was “f---ing fantastic”.
“The majority of the women I spoke to last night were completely mesmerised by it,” she said. “She converted a room of people who came in going, ‘I’m not sure what to expect’.”
Sanelli said Meghan did not address royal life at all. “It was more about her [Netflix] series, books, what she’s doing, what’s coming up,” she said.

Marketing specialist and content creator Megan Towner, 39, travelled from the Gold Coast with her sister for the event. She said Meghan’s main message was about “how she wants to share positivity with the world”.
“She was saying, you know, if we don’t stand up for what’s right and we don’t sort of speak our truth, even if we’re not the ones putting the negativity out there, if we’re not actively stopping it or if we’re not speaking up for what’s right, then that’s not good, either.”

Sanelli said the entire room was captivated when Meghan spoke about her experience of online harassment.
“She shared that, every day, it’s been a lot for them,” she recalled.
“She said, ‘every day, as a woman, I get an article written about me in some form’, and she said some of the horrible trolling, the clickbait, has affected her,” Sanelli said, noting O’Neill said she also received online backlash for organising the event.
“It was just a moment in the room where everyone saw the pain of women trying to give it a go but how quick to pull someone down rather than support them. And it was a really touching moment because we all had tears.”

Meghan also opened up about her relationship with Harry (or “H”, as she calls him), who sat supportively by the stage. She spoke about how they made it a priority to have breakfast and often lunch together, and took turns doing school drop-offs.
Meghan, who received an appearance fee, was only at the event for two hours but that mattered not to the attendees. “There was no disappointment whatsoever,” Towner said.
Having purchased the $3199 VIP package, Sanelli and Towner were both able to take a group photo with Meghan.
Sanelli said she was “really engaging and kind”, learning the names of the group and shaking their hands.
Towner even shared a laugh with her. “We had a bit of a joke because obviously we’ve got the same name and I just said, well, mine’s the Aussie version,” she said.
Once Meghan and Harry left, the guests had a three-course, alternate-drop meal. Afterwards, a dance floor broke out.
The night’s DJ, Claire O’Shea, described the vibe as “super fun” with a “multigenerational” crowd.
“There were women in their 20s dancing with their mums,” she said.
The event was the start of the Her Best Life retreat, hosted by O’Neill, who has a podcast of the same name.
O’Neill was originally connected with Meghan through their mutual friend Markus Anderson, an executive at international private members’ club Soho House, who also attended the event.
Other high-profile guests included radio personalities Jackie “O” Henderson, the former co-host of the Her Best Lifepodcast, whose career O’Neill manages, and Carrie Bickmore.
It has been a tumultuous time for O’Neill. At the start of the month she announced she would be taking a break from the podcast after having a miscarriage. Around the same time it was revealed her business, Gemmie Agency, had gone into voluntary liquidation, owing $546,000.
“I stand by my integrity, I stand by my work and I stand by how I’ve conducted myself in business over a very long career,” O’Neill said in a podcast episode about the break.
But recent events seemed far from the minds of those in the Coogee ballroom on Friday.
“Gemma deserves credit,” Sanelli said. “Because it’s freaking hard to have the balls to do all of this and I admire people like that.”

Edited

Didn't attendees have to sign NDAs for the event? And were scanned on arrival to ensure they didn't have phones or recording devices?

Therefore we can be sure that anyone speaking and using their full name has had their comments pre-approved by Meghan's PR team

BasiliskStare · 18/04/2026 12:29

Re the Her Best Life event. I think the problem is that whilst hugely famous , I am not sure she any longer has the cachet to attract the sorts of socialites , influencer type people who might stump up these sorts of prices without thinking. & It's too expensive for many / most people. I think she falls between two stools. Added to which a "retreat" sharing rooms , with a yoga class , a sound healing session and a disco in a newly opened (unfinished?) hotel doesn't sound dreadfully interesting or good value even if you a fan of spa breaks etc. At that price her name and attendance was having to do some very heavy lifting and it appears couldn't manage it.

StartupRepair · 18/04/2026 12:33

I don't think they can allow Harry closer to any information about Charles' health. He has already made the dreadful remark 'I don't know how long he has left'
He can't be trusted with anything private or sensitive.

Lunde · 18/04/2026 12:36

Indianrollerbird · 18/04/2026 10:33

Didn’t he also say he’d done nothing wrong writing/talking about his family? Last September in Ukraine, was it? Hardly reconciliatory.

Edited

I always thought that the September meeting was some sort of test to see whether harry could keep his gob shut - and within a few hours he proved he couldn't with a petulant "I can say what I want" clapback.

It explains the idea of Harry spending time at Sandringham this summer being dismissed because of Harry's lack of discretion;
"If Harry truly wishes to see his father, he would do well to encourage his supporters to allow such matters to be discussed privately, since low trust and bitter experience in this regard remains one of the principal barriers to progress."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/king-charles-harry-meghan-sandringham-security-b2948349.html

King Charles may not invite Harry to Sandringham due to ‘bitter experience’

Duke of Sussex is reportedly keen to bring his children to see their grandfather at his Norfolk estate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/king-charles-harry-meghan-sandringham-security-b2948349.html

Starryfifty · 18/04/2026 12:42

I cannot find post above in relation to stripping titles. I assumed KC stripped AMW of his, no?

MissFenellaPrism · 18/04/2026 12:42

"low trust and bitter experience"
Too true.

Starryfifty · 18/04/2026 12:43

Lunde · 18/04/2026 12:36

I always thought that the September meeting was some sort of test to see whether harry could keep his gob shut - and within a few hours he proved he couldn't with a petulant "I can say what I want" clapback.

It explains the idea of Harry spending time at Sandringham this summer being dismissed because of Harry's lack of discretion;
"If Harry truly wishes to see his father, he would do well to encourage his supporters to allow such matters to be discussed privately, since low trust and bitter experience in this regard remains one of the principal barriers to progress."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/king-charles-harry-meghan-sandringham-security-b2948349.html

How on earth could he possibly expect an invite now ? In Oz, he said he basically wants to be a better father than his own ffs

Tiddlywinks63 · 18/04/2026 12:44

MissFenellaPrism · 17/04/2026 15:09

@bluegreygreen that poster doesn't understand the role of the Head of State.

And has their own agenda….

Jellybelly80 · 18/04/2026 12:44

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/04/2026 10:32

I loved her posts because she often explained PR inner workings. It was just the last few posts about a thaw where she seemed to be very positive it was happening whereas a lot of us didn't expect anything to come from any meeting because we thought Harry would muck it up and leak.

It was literally that last subject that made me think she maybe wasn't the disinterested observer I thought she was and maybe had been brought on board with the Sussex PR.

Either way I still miss her posts because PR is fascinating.

I was very fond of her as a poster and would have liked to have met them in real life, shed obviously seen a lot and overcome very difficult times.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/04/2026 12:45

Tiddlywinks63 · 18/04/2026 12:44

And has their own agenda….

Indeed.

bluegreygreen · 18/04/2026 12:58

Lunde · 18/04/2026 12:29

Didn't attendees have to sign NDAs for the event? And were scanned on arrival to ensure they didn't have phones or recording devices?

Therefore we can be sure that anyone speaking and using their full name has had their comments pre-approved by Meghan's PR team

Very good point @Lunde

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 18/04/2026 13:11

Tiddlywinks63 · 18/04/2026 12:25

ShoeZone version?

Ooh, I wonder if that refers to the commission earned per pair...

Lunde · 18/04/2026 13:44

Starryfifty · 18/04/2026 12:43

How on earth could he possibly expect an invite now ? In Oz, he said he basically wants to be a better father than his own ffs

Harry can't keep his stories straight and sometimes contradicts himself the same day

Along the lines of
Being a royal traumatised me - but I want to go on faux royal tours using my prince title

My life was hard because my dad was an older father - yet Harry was practically the same age when he had kids

SM is evil and children should not be posted .... unless As Ever needs to flog jam or we want a PR hospital photo op with very sick kids

Archie cries because of Harry's work stress - yet Harry by choice choses to leave him for weeks at a time to cosplay royal tours

I need security to deal with the trauma of crowds - although the entourage outnumbered the "crowds" and being in crowds was OK at the rugby match...

MissFenellaPrism · 18/04/2026 13:53

Don't forget how traumatic he hated"every click and flash of the cameras".
Seems to have come to terms with it now.

Curlygirl06 · 18/04/2026 13:57

MissFenellaPrism · 17/04/2026 22:44

Emma is a very intelligent and talented woman. Taking on Longleat was huge, but she's done so with energy and commitment, in spite of a critical illness during her pregnancy. She is a good cook and a fantastic hostess, and has helped to develop Longleat as a destination.
She's what Meghan could have been, had she been prepared to work and learn.

Slight derail- when she was on Strictly, just after she was voted off, she came into our place to get some shopping. She was really nice, had a little chat to everyone. Some of the dance practices she had were in the local tiny village hall, can't see Meghan being happy with that if she was on Strictly! Perhaps they could ask her to appear? Lol.

BasiliskStare · 18/04/2026 14:00

I'm not sure critical thinking is H's long suit.

Starryfifty · 18/04/2026 14:07

BasiliskStare · 18/04/2026 14:00

I'm not sure critical thinking is H's long suit.

He seems exceptionally dim witted. Did Diana say he wasn't very bright?? He's blatantly contradicting himself during public speaking etc. Perhaps he is undiagnosed neurodivergent? Forgive my armchair psychoanalysis 😂. Also I remember meghan saying he has such a child like wonder. What a bizarre thing to say about your husband and not at all complimentary

MrsFinkelstein · 18/04/2026 14:12

AtIusvue · 18/04/2026 10:38

An account of the event, which is clearly written in positive terms but confirms there wasn’t 300…it says more than 200. So 201 then…less Megs entourage….that will make it 190. Dire!

Also said, ‘some’ had paid thousands to be in the room. Eh? Shouldn’t that be all? Otherwise it does look to be true that they gave out free/cut price tickets.

weird points:

  • crowd described as ‘multigenerational’ …which is code for old 😂
  • Meg n Harry make a point of having brekkie and lunch together. Fine, they work from home- so then why aren’t you having dinner together???Thats the meal most people share and what I’d image the perfect parents that they think they are, then they would all sit as a family and eat. Weird.
  • Meg and Harry do turn doing drop offs…but no mention of pick ups…what is happening late afternoon/evening when the pair of them seem to disappear?

https://archive.ph/9wSWB

Freedom by George Michael boomed as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, took the stage at the Her Best Life retreat gala dinner in Sydney on Friday afternoon.
Helped by husband Prince Harry, a surprise guest at the event who held her hand as she walked up, the duchess wore a cream two-piece from Australian label Scanlan Theodore for her conversation with the event’s organiser, Gemma O’Neill.
They spoke to a rapt audience of more than 200 women, some of whom had paid thousands to be in the room, at the Coogee Beach InterContinental hotel about Meghan’s career, family life and the trappings of fame – although questions about her former royal life seemed to be off the table.

It was the headline event of the three-day retreat, and the penultimate stop on Meghan and Harry’s Australian tour, which ended with their attendance at the Waratahs-Moana Pasifika rugby match that night.
Earlier on Friday attendees checked in to the hotel as media were kept at a distance, told not to approach guests.
Liliana Sanelli, 49, travelled from Melbourne to attend the retreat with her best friend. The entrepreneur and philanthropist said the Q&A between O’Neill and Meghan was “f---ing fantastic”.
“The majority of the women I spoke to last night were completely mesmerised by it,” she said. “She converted a room of people who came in going, ‘I’m not sure what to expect’.”
Sanelli said Meghan did not address royal life at all. “It was more about her [Netflix] series, books, what she’s doing, what’s coming up,” she said.

Marketing specialist and content creator Megan Towner, 39, travelled from the Gold Coast with her sister for the event. She said Meghan’s main message was about “how she wants to share positivity with the world”.
“She was saying, you know, if we don’t stand up for what’s right and we don’t sort of speak our truth, even if we’re not the ones putting the negativity out there, if we’re not actively stopping it or if we’re not speaking up for what’s right, then that’s not good, either.”

Sanelli said the entire room was captivated when Meghan spoke about her experience of online harassment.
“She shared that, every day, it’s been a lot for them,” she recalled.
“She said, ‘every day, as a woman, I get an article written about me in some form’, and she said some of the horrible trolling, the clickbait, has affected her,” Sanelli said, noting O’Neill said she also received online backlash for organising the event.
“It was just a moment in the room where everyone saw the pain of women trying to give it a go but how quick to pull someone down rather than support them. And it was a really touching moment because we all had tears.”

Meghan also opened up about her relationship with Harry (or “H”, as she calls him), who sat supportively by the stage. She spoke about how they made it a priority to have breakfast and often lunch together, and took turns doing school drop-offs.
Meghan, who received an appearance fee, was only at the event for two hours but that mattered not to the attendees. “There was no disappointment whatsoever,” Towner said.
Having purchased the $3199 VIP package, Sanelli and Towner were both able to take a group photo with Meghan.
Sanelli said she was “really engaging and kind”, learning the names of the group and shaking their hands.
Towner even shared a laugh with her. “We had a bit of a joke because obviously we’ve got the same name and I just said, well, mine’s the Aussie version,” she said.
Once Meghan and Harry left, the guests had a three-course, alternate-drop meal. Afterwards, a dance floor broke out.
The night’s DJ, Claire O’Shea, described the vibe as “super fun” with a “multigenerational” crowd.
“There were women in their 20s dancing with their mums,” she said.
The event was the start of the Her Best Life retreat, hosted by O’Neill, who has a podcast of the same name.
O’Neill was originally connected with Meghan through their mutual friend Markus Anderson, an executive at international private members’ club Soho House, who also attended the event.
Other high-profile guests included radio personalities Jackie “O” Henderson, the former co-host of the Her Best Lifepodcast, whose career O’Neill manages, and Carrie Bickmore.
It has been a tumultuous time for O’Neill. At the start of the month she announced she would be taking a break from the podcast after having a miscarriage. Around the same time it was revealed her business, Gemmie Agency, had gone into voluntary liquidation, owing $546,000.
“I stand by my integrity, I stand by my work and I stand by how I’ve conducted myself in business over a very long career,” O’Neill said in a podcast episode about the break.
But recent events seemed far from the minds of those in the Coogee ballroom on Friday.
“Gemma deserves credit,” Sanelli said. “Because it’s freaking hard to have the balls to do all of this and I admire people like that.”

Edited

That's an absolute masterclass in putting positive PR spin on a disappointing event.

You have to admire it really.

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