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The royal family

PR Disasters ….part 7

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AtIusvue · 03/04/2026 12:27

Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 02:35

That NASA guy, the administrator Jared Isaacson, is a proper billionaire philanthropist and pilot. He’s been into space himself. He’s also on the list of inductees in to the ‘Living Legends of Aviation’.

H is like a Temu version of that.

Lifestooshort71 · 11/04/2026 07:51

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 00:46

I'm honestly not sure.

I suppose it's about public safety. But do the Australian police really think that H/M will draw a crowd? I don't. They had to invent the crowds and press packs for their Netflix flight of fantasy, appropriating them from other events (Harry Potter premiere, Kate Pirice court appearance).

They need someone to keep an eye out for random pizza bikes.......

Mylovelygreendress · 11/04/2026 07:56

Lifestooshort71 · 11/04/2026 07:51

They need someone to keep an eye out for random pizza bikes.......

That made me laugh 😂

YourBreezyPanda · 11/04/2026 08:28

is the filing not out yet, curious re the evidence.

ThePoshUns · 11/04/2026 08:29

Just catching up, I’m going to need a bigger bag of popcorn the year ahead is proving to be very entertaining. Thanks H&M, you are the grift that keeps on giving!

Ohpleeeease · 11/04/2026 08:47

The sad truth is that Harry’s name has in the past had real currency. He is the reason people know about Sentebale, and about Invictus. Without his name I doubt either charity would have the profile they enjoy, or benefited from such generous donations.

But that’s no excuse for shoddy governance and poor people management. Harry has a bad case of Founder’s Syndrome and it was up to the trustees to keep him in line. SC got blasted because as chair she tried to do that.

I hope this fight between them doesn’t become too personal, I can’t see there is a case for defamation or that it will benefit the charity to pursue one. I do think that Harry needs to take a crash course in charity trusteeship because at the moment he doesn’t appear to get it at all.

Serenster · 11/04/2026 09:15

YourBreezyPanda · 11/04/2026 08:28

is the filing not out yet, curious re the evidence.

The claim form has been filed - that was on 23 March. That kick starts the action. The next step normally is for the defendants to acknowledge service and confirm who will be acting for them (Womble Bond Dickinson is acting for Sentabale).

The particulars of claim can be filed at the same time as the claim form, but do not have to be. They set out the allegations made in the case, but not the evidence. That is not presented later, not until the case is heard. So you’ll be waiting a while for the evidence! Unless Harry’s team try to take action to kill the claim off quickly via a strike out application or summary judgment. Witness statements would be exchanged to support that kind of application.

Serenster · 11/04/2026 09:21

(Are you American, YourBreezyPanda? Filings is a very American term to use in relation to court pleadings, and American filings are quite different in form and content to UK court documents)

AtIusvue · 11/04/2026 09:52

A poster on Reddit has pointed out that the Variety article states sunshine sachs were the ones who were used and were the ones who said Sentebale are using charity funds for the legal action

Why isn’t Harry using Liam?

https://variety.com/2026/biz/news/prince-harry-sued-defamation-charity-sentebale-1236714614/

It now makes sense why the retort is inaccurate, unprofessional and undignified.

Wasnt it SS who helped them release that ridiculous pre marriage statement about racist bullying of Meg?

I also notice they’ve changed the statement now to say ‘efforts’ instead of saying they are using charity money.

They must have junior staff assigned to them to account for this shit show

LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 21: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrives at court during a court case against Associated Newspapers Ltd at The Royal Courts of Justice on January 21, 2026 in London, England. A group of claimants including Prince Harry, Duke o...

Prince Harry Sued for Defamation by African Charity He Co-Founded

Prince Harry has been sued by Sentebale, the charity he co-founded, for defamation.

https://variety.com/2026/biz/news/prince-harry-sued-defamation-charity-sentebale-1236714614/

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bluegreygreen · 11/04/2026 10:05

I hope this fight between them doesn’t become too personal, I can’t see there is a case for defamation or that it will benefit the charity to pursue one. I do think that Harry needs to take a crash course in charity trusteeship because at the moment he doesn’t appear to get it at all.

This is what bothers. Me, @Ohpleeeease. I don't know about the strength of their case, but can see that it could affect their public perception.

I think they have been sensible in their statement to make it clear that it is from the board and CEO - Chandauka appears nowhere overtly in the statement.

In the trustees' declaration I referenced upthread they mentioned 'The [Charity] Commission’s position is that issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission'. I wonder if this is their way of doing that.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/04/2026 10:06

ThePoshUns · 11/04/2026 08:29

Just catching up, I’m going to need a bigger bag of popcorn the year ahead is proving to be very entertaining. Thanks H&M, you are the grift that keeps on giving!

Popcorn ? I need a new case of wine !

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2026 10:08

TheAutumnCrow · 10/04/2026 23:47

Harry seems to act as though the charities of which he is a ‘founding patron’ (meaning that the palace machines set these complicated things up for him) are his personal possessions to own, manipulate and trash as he chooses.

He seems devoid of understanding of his fiduciary and legal duties and responsibilities. It’s as though he inverts it and expects, for example, Sentebale to have obligations toward him.

You're right of course, TheAutumnCrow, but I'd expect nothing else. These are the little people and he's a prince, and he's been raised in an institution where they're merely there to serve his whims

Having it proven that Harry has funded the SS or other online trolls to attack and discredit Sentebale would be almost irrecoverable for him I think

Ohh I don't know, @Elessar, you can just hear it now ... "Well the royals have the MSM as a conduit for their stories so why shouldn't Harry have something too"

As for the taxpayers having to foot expenses for the tour, of course they are.
The much vaunted 73p pp the monarchy supposedly costs doesn't include security, and nor will this include H&M's ... though it's a shame they lack the sense or integrity to realise that and then lie about it on top

bluegreygreen · 11/04/2026 10:08

Does the legal firm acting for Sentebale tell you anything, @Serenster?

AtIusvue · 11/04/2026 10:14

When you think how bad his MH was supposed to be, when he had everything paid for him, grey suits dealing with everything for him, enjoying high public approval………to now, where he having to coordinate everything, pay $$$$$s for it and it’s all disastrously falling apart publicly. Yet we are supposed to believe he is living a joyful life which his mother wanted for him?

He must be difficult to live with right now. Didn’t see him in any of the Easter videos either.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2026 10:20

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 01:16

That was nerve-wracking! I'm old enough to just remember Apollo 11 and the first moon landing, and now here we are with Artemis II starting a whole new phase.

Wonderful isn't it, TheAutumnCrow Grin

I'm going to have to watch that brilliant movie again now, but I could never get over - after seeing the real Gene Krantz - how uncannily he resembled the actor who played him

Guest385 · 11/04/2026 10:45

I also notice they’ve changed the statement now to say ‘efforts’ instead of saying they are using charity money.

Interesting, but the damage is done. Quite poor quality comms.

i also find it hilarious that the kick back from the Sussex supporters saying the money spent on this case would be better spent on the charity. Maybe have a look at exactly how much Archewell Foundations spent on expenses verses giving.

AtIusvue · 11/04/2026 10:56

Telegraph:

‘A former employee of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex recently issued a blunt warning: brace for “more videos of the children”.
The royal insider painted a clear picture. Harry and Meghan are growing increasingly desperate to cling to the headlines, and at this point, Archie and Lilibet are “all they have left”.
After the explosive drama of Megxit, the headline-grabbing Oprah interview, the glossy Netflix deal, the best-selling memoir Spare, the jam-selling venture and their selective forays into philanthropy, the couple’s arsenal of fresh content has run dangerously dry. What remains is the careful drip-feed from their self-styled Montecito paradise – tantalising glimpses presumably designed to keep the public hooked.

Footage appeared to show the children of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex engaged in holiday activities
This Easter delivered exactly that as Meghan shared a fresh batch of footage appearing to show (we never see their full faces) six-year-old Archie and four-year-old Lilibet enjoying classic holiday fun at home in California. One clip captured the children racing across the lawn during a lively egg hunt, with Lilibet dressed in a pink dress and bunny ears, clutching a plush toy rabbit. Another showed Archie intently decorating Easter eggs, while additional scenes included feeding the chickens and gathering eggs from the coop. The videos were polished, warm and seemingly wholesome.
It all looks touching: a sweet window into family life. But scratch beneath the curated charm and does a deeper cynicism emerge? Here are parents who repeatedly insist on fiercely protecting their children’s privacy, yet are apparently deploying them as promotional tools. By filming from behind or the side and refusing to show their faces, the Sussexes seem to believe they have struck a clever compromise. Critics, however, see it as another marketing tool.

The contradiction is glaring. Whatever happened to the “quiet life” the couple once craved when they stepped back from royal duties and relocated to California? Instead of retreating from the spotlight, they seem addicted to it, using carefully edited snippets of their family life to generate buzz. They might argue that because faces remain hidden, no real invasion of privacy occurs. But surely posting any footage at all turns private family moments into public content, especially if timed to coincide with slow news cycles?
It feels particularly hollow coming from Harry, who has spoken at length about the trauma of his own childhood being exploited by the media. “My connection to privacy, and the lack of it, begins in a different place than most. From birth,” he once declared. He and Meghan might claim they are simply reclaiming control, choosing what to share rather than leaving it to the paparazzi. Yet using young Archie and Lilibet as props, however gently framed, surely risks a version of the very commodification Harry once railed against. Once children enter the public domain, even in blurred or partial form, the appetite for more only grows. True privacy would mean no videos at all.’

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prh47bridge · 11/04/2026 11:07

Guest385 · 11/04/2026 10:45

I also notice they’ve changed the statement now to say ‘efforts’ instead of saying they are using charity money.

Interesting, but the damage is done. Quite poor quality comms.

i also find it hilarious that the kick back from the Sussex supporters saying the money spent on this case would be better spent on the charity. Maybe have a look at exactly how much Archewell Foundations spent on expenses verses giving.

It may be poor comms, but even if the original statement could give rise to a claim for defamation, the alteration is likely to be enough to head off any claim.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 11:09

TheAutumnCrow · 10/04/2026 23:47

Harry seems to act as though the charities of which he is a ‘founding patron’ (meaning that the palace machines set these complicated things up for him) are his personal possessions to own, manipulate and trash as he chooses.

He seems devoid of understanding of his fiduciary and legal duties and responsibilities. It’s as though he inverts it and expects, for example, Sentebale to have obligations toward him.

Bower makes absolutely clear that this was the case with regard to Sentebale. H expected to appoint people to the board without following process; direct the board take a vote on issues, in accordance with his wishes,without due process; change venues (and rack up costs) to suit his private business deals; and bitched to their biggest, regular, funder about having to put in some extra hours in Japan.

While in background trashing Dr Sophie and expressing his doubts about her ability to run the charity without him.

I really hope she has definitive proof of a smear campaign against the charity.

Serenster · 11/04/2026 11:11

bluegreygreen · 11/04/2026 10:08

Does the legal firm acting for Sentebale tell you anything, @Serenster?

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They are not a specialist defamation firm, but have had some recent victories that field against Tommy Robinson and the Evening Standard. And they are known for acting for charities and public bodies - so it’s a sound choice.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 11:22

Ohpleeeease · 11/04/2026 08:47

The sad truth is that Harry’s name has in the past had real currency. He is the reason people know about Sentebale, and about Invictus. Without his name I doubt either charity would have the profile they enjoy, or benefited from such generous donations.

But that’s no excuse for shoddy governance and poor people management. Harry has a bad case of Founder’s Syndrome and it was up to the trustees to keep him in line. SC got blasted because as chair she tried to do that.

I hope this fight between them doesn’t become too personal, I can’t see there is a case for defamation or that it will benefit the charity to pursue one. I do think that Harry needs to take a crash course in charity trusteeship because at the moment he doesn’t appear to get it at all.

I think having the charity sue for defamation (and suing Dyer, as well as H) is an attempt to move away from the "personality clash" narrative that the media have been pushing until now.

I think the benefit to the charity of pursuing this case in this way is threefold -

Reparation for any financial damage H and Dyer's actions have cost the charity already

Putting the record straight, so letting the donor pool know that stuff they may have heard is not true

Future-proofing the charity against any further spiteful attempts to sabotage it in as a result of a mean-spirited "if I can't have it, no-one else can"

A further advantage - irrelevant to Sentebale, but important nevertheless - is going after one of the minions. It might make future stooges think twice about allowing themselves to be roped in to do H's dirty work, if they see that there are consequences for them personally. Someone upthread mentioned that being asked to front a hostile media campaign might have been a reason for the Montecito media exodus in the last year. I wonder f any of them have contacted Dr S.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 11:26

bluegreygreen · 11/04/2026 10:08

Does the legal firm acting for Sentebale tell you anything, @Serenster?

Edited

And are they wombling (for) free? 😉

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 11:32

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 11:09

Bower makes absolutely clear that this was the case with regard to Sentebale. H expected to appoint people to the board without following process; direct the board take a vote on issues, in accordance with his wishes,without due process; change venues (and rack up costs) to suit his private business deals; and bitched to their biggest, regular, funder about having to put in some extra hours in Japan.

While in background trashing Dr Sophie and expressing his doubts about her ability to run the charity without him.

I really hope she has definitive proof of a smear campaign against the charity.

Ah, ok, thanks, I still haven’t read the book myself (although it’s on the list of library reservations).

It absolutely makes sense then that for a very long time, Harry has been firing off emails, Facebook messages, and other messages like texts & WhatsApp, and that Sophie Chandauka and her supportive trustees (one of whom appeared with her on the Trevor Phillips / Sky News interview last year) have copies.

As we saw from previous indiscretions and the current ANL case and Charlotte Griffiths’s submitted evidence, Harry seems somewhat prone to sending unguarded Facebook messages and emails.

Ohpleeeease · 11/04/2026 11:33

bluegreygreen · 11/04/2026 10:05

I hope this fight between them doesn’t become too personal, I can’t see there is a case for defamation or that it will benefit the charity to pursue one. I do think that Harry needs to take a crash course in charity trusteeship because at the moment he doesn’t appear to get it at all.

This is what bothers. Me, @Ohpleeeease. I don't know about the strength of their case, but can see that it could affect their public perception.

I think they have been sensible in their statement to make it clear that it is from the board and CEO - Chandauka appears nowhere overtly in the statement.

In the trustees' declaration I referenced upthread they mentioned 'The [Charity] Commission’s position is that issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission'. I wonder if this is their way of doing that.

The CC draws a very firm line in terms of what falls within its remit and what doesn’t. They won’t touch an internal dispute with a barge pole.

They’re also strictly evidence based. If records such as trustee minutes and correspondence don’t support the allegations, there’s not much they can do. That doesn’t mean they absolve PH and his faction of any fault, just that they couldn’t find it in evidence.

That’s the message their report sends.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/04/2026 11:42

To the best of my knowledge the other Founder ( whose name I have forgotten) has never said anything publicly about the situation .
I would love to hear his thoughts.

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