PR disasters continued. Thread 6

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For all PR disasters of Meg and Papa Sussex

How on earth does Harry imagine this would go? He’s alienated and insulted everyone. Camilla must feel very antagonistic about him. His children don’t know their grandfather. He’s living in La La land.

I am mystified by this Sandringham thing. As someone else mentioned earlier, I thought Sandringham isn't used by the King in the summer - he goes to Scotland, and the general public descend on Sandringham to buy (proper) jam in the shop and sit on the lawns eating ice creams (I have done this myself). I know the Waleses stay at Anmer, but it's away from the main house. Am I mistaken? If not, where has this rumour come from? Surely not from someone who knows the habits of the RF. It's very odd.

My theory is that Meghan is the source . No way does she want to visit the RF so leaking info is a way to prevent it .

These kind of articles are so contradictory to his statements in court, that his friends don’t leak !! so either all this bombardment of articles that seem to come out regularly are straight from Harry and Meghan themselves as the ‘sources’ or they have a few ‘friends’ who are as leaky as a sieve and he has always surrounded himself with people who don’t exactly value his privacy.

Yes. I thought she was behind the pap photo last summer of the King's PR chap and the Sussexes representatives meeting on that balcony. Also the information leaked after Harry's meeting with KC. I think there's some interesting dynamics in that relationship - Harry wants to keep the kids off social media but Meghan keeps putting (one of them, at least) on it, while Harry wants reconciliation with his family and Meghan doesn't. What I find interesting is if she is sabotaging, why does he put up with it? And if she isn't the saboteur, then is it him? If so, he's properly nuts. It's very odd.

He isn’t the sharpest so if she denies it with doe eyes and trembling lip , he will believe it is the wicked media .

That’s what I thought too. The King is at Balmoral in the Summer on the whole, not Sandringham. Surely Highgrove would be the place they would meet him? Away from Amner and no other family members apart from Camilla. It’ll never happen.

I think it's possible Harry doesn't have the wit to even think Meghan could be the culprit. The cognitive dissonance would cause a meltdown.

Worse than being talentless - they are also very difficult to work with and bully colleagues and staff. In a mainly freelance working environment where people have to pull together to deliver complex projects on time and on budget these characteristics are critical when selecting a team / collaborators. In Hollywood where people move around all the time after each project these things get talked about.

I am not sure he has sufficient cognition to dissonate.

Maybe they actually don’t even want to see KC3 (or 10 mins would suffice) - maybe they just want the back drops for photoshoots for content

Oops indeed. Looks like BRF have a new approach and are clapping back quite hard:

”But sources close to the monarch told the Daily Mail last night that 'low trust and bitter experience' over a string of leaks and media briefings from 'Team Sussex' in recent years were a significant difficulty in making any progress in restoring family harmony.
A friend of the King said: 'If Harry truly wishes to see his father, he would do well to encourage his supporters to allow such matters to be discussed privately, since low trust and bitter experience in this regard remains one of the principal barriers to progress.”

That told him.

I’m also wondering if BRF are getting ahead and have taken this tactic now so that there is no speculation around KC3 upcoming visit to the US?

Yes good idea to shut them down immediately. They must be prepared for these stories now as they appear without fail twice a year and the source is always a friend of Harry’s.

Maybe they have learnt from the Andrew debacle that sometimes silence isn't the answer?

Apparently the King does go to Sandringham in July before he goes to Balmoral but I can't see him being a fan of Harry wanting to see him separate from the rest of the family. The rest of Harry's generation have always said how much they enjoyed being together.

It’s possible that H&M have already asked to stay at a royal residence this summer to conduct their IG shenanigans and been told ‘No’ - so thought they would try another tack of shaming a grandfather KC3 via the media into complying by using his grandchildren as collateral.

I wonder if the IG are in deep trouble and need PH to secure the attendance of KC3 in Birmingham in 2027 and a summer get together in 2026 would be an important milestone and run up to selling tickets and getting a higher profile for their event if it was confirmed KC3 was attending.

IG is in trouble.

Aside from the financial red flags and the ethical red flags of H using veterans for his own emotional support, there are the political red flags of hosting IDF veterans in Birmingham. And if the IDF veterans are disinvited, well then that becomes an international issue, the wild card being Trump's response as I would expect the Israelis to complain to their allies, the key one being the US.

Bearing in mind, the US is the UK's key defense partner. In fact, some in the UK defense community fear that the UK is over-reliant on the US as the UK's Trident nuclear deterrent needs the US to fire. (Unlike France's nuclear deterrent, which is completely within French control).

IMHO, KC3's advisors would advise him to steer clear of IG as it is a hot mess.

Hang on , isn’t Ingriftus being held in July?

July 2027 not this year

Exactly, @My2cents1975. I’ve been banging on about this until I’ve bored myself.

IMO: the city of Birmingham’s socio-political climate is not compatible with the feted presence of the Israeli IDF. This is a city that remains in financial straits. Further, it is a city that has candidates running for election to its council and for constituency seats on platforms which focus on Gaza and ‘globalising the intifada’. It has a significant multi-cultural population size on top of the older ‘melting pot’ population, that are going through significant changes and challenges.

It was always foolish for Harry and his mate Johnny Mercer (the former Conservative MP) to push and promote Birmingham’s candidacy for hosting the games. The accession of Israel’s IDF (in 2022/23) to the ‘Invictus Family’ was also a decision that astounds me in its naivety, especially as it is part-funded by a Russian-Israeli oligarch with an ‘interesting’ background.

Wanting the King, the UK’s Head of State, to be involved in this hot mess is delusional. They’ll be lucky to get the hapless Lisa Nandy turning up for a photo op.

And this will cost the city council money. It is responsible for stadium safety, planning, licensing, and a whole host of other functions. Those teams need staffing and paying for. If there are demonstrations against the IDF, emergency planning kicks in. Harry is not going to be able to manage the diplomacy needed involved here to square all the circles.

Yes but he always does a pre visit a year before!

There’s a ‘pre-event’ this year. A ‘one year to go’ thingy.

I agree and this has that similar dodgy sniff of using PH to recruit Doreen Lawrence for credibility the ANL case. The IG and H&M commercial enterprises desperately need a royal photo shoot to keep them both from sinking - but agree the men in grey suits see the huge risks not just to KC3 but the monarchy longer term when it is currently knee deep in shit already. They need to tightly execute a considered and consistent clean up campaign for the medium term there is no scope to for any calamitous missteps. Bad timing for H&M.

Will that be in Birmingham?

What is a pre event thing ? What a shit show

It's certainly a rocky road ahead. 😬