Camilla Meeting Gisèle Pelicot

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I'm quite taken aback by the this. The timing just in the middle of AMW sordid developments is particularly bad.

Ms Pelicot should not be anyone's poster woman for virtue signalling support to female victims of SA.

Camilla saying she read her book in the last two days, couldn't put it down and her 'case' shocked her is pretty sickening considering what's been going on under their noses.

This should never be a PR exercise.

I think I'm officially done with the RF now. Permanently tone-deaf and worlds away from the reality.

news.sky.com/story/queen-meets-gisele-pelicot-and-praises-rape-survivors-extraordinary-dignity-13511258

Ah well, it doesn’t matter what you think

Goodness. I can find many, many reasons to criticise the Royal Family. But Camilla's longstanding support for the victims of sexual and domestic violence isn't one of them.

Madame Pelicot is in the UK to promote her book. She has the absolute right to tell her story. And meeting the Queen will undoubtedly help her to promote it - a private meeting would not have the same effect.

I dare say that the Queen has her own private thoughts about Andrew but we all know that she isn't free to voice them openly. I fail to see how stepping back from her ongoing support for survivors of sexual and domestic violence would help the Epstein survivors in any way.

If Camilla cancelled a meeting with this extraordinary survivor bc her pr advised her the timing isn't good, and if it's not good now then any other time will be equally bad, to me that is not treating Gisele very well for the purposes of PR.

As another poster said, the meeting was a positive for her, and you're suggesting Camilla should have let her down. C has been supporting this cause for years and doesn't need to stop. As for how effective royal support in general is, that's not for me to say but I don't agree with the concept of royalty.

I'm tired of the intense focus on doing things for PR purposes, instead of what is good and right to do.

Camilla wrote a letter to Giselle Pelicot way before Andrew was arrested so I don’t see the issue especially as neither Charles nor Camilla are close to him. Charles was against him being made trade envoy. As for Andrew’s behaviour being under their noses you are exaggerating their closeness. Lots of stuff I am taken aback by particularly as no one in USA is being held to account re Epsteins sex trafficking ring but Camilla meeting Ms Pelicot is not one of the things that bothers me.

Ms Pelicot should not be anyone's poster woman for virtue signalling support to female victims of SA.

after reading this I’m disgusted at you as a human being!
this woman suffered abuse at a level many find hard to comprehend and waved aside her shame and revealed herself globally to highlight the crimes committed against her .
she is exactly who should be highlighted by those in charge and the queen was fully right to acknowledge and bring this brave woman to the forefront of everyone.

OP you’re definitely in a small minority with your interpretation of it as a PR stunt. Most women will see this meeting as a very good thing. It has nothing whatsoever to do with AMW and its quite a of you actually to link the two.

Also, the Queen will have received an advance copy of the book weeks ago, as is normal in publishing. She’s not actually read it in the last two days!

Do you realise that Virginia Roberts made her allegations initially in 2011 and took the civil case against AMW in 2017 - so the BRF have had 15 years to wrap their head around this if they wanted.

I have no doubt that QC brand strategy required her to work in this area for max PR points - and GP is being exploited yet again by those with more power and this interaction is just a fig leaf for BRF.

The King has made it clear that he is totally on board with the authorities following ‘the full, fair and proper process by which this issue is investigated in the appropriate manner’.

The RF cannot take sides beyond this very succinct and powerful statement and the idea of Queen Camilla making a specific statement about AMW is quite ludicrous. However, by meeting with Madame Pelicot she has nailed her colours to the mast.

Was QC not able to extend any concern to the victims literally under her own roof? Charity begins at home. She has been well briefed on the depravity of her BIL for over a decade but has done nothing to acknowledge or validate them to date apart from a few paltry words last week when the shit they have been holding down to save the RF reputation finally hit the fan - really at best such insulting inertia and at worst complicit even if inadvertently enabling the cover up of AMW’s violation of likely many many women and girls for decades.

Would encourage you all to read how Giselle has treated her own daughter, allegedly. It's awful, if true.

I'd be more pissed off if their meeting was postponed or shuffled because of Andrew Windsor Mountbatten's abuse of girls and treason.

Actually, you’re quite wrong on this. Have you read Pelicot’s book? She herself says she doesn’t want to be a poster girls for how women should handle ordeals such as hers. She’s very, very clear that she is one woman, her circumstances are specific to her, and she had her own personal reasons for making the choices she made. She’s an ordinary, normal woman. She also NOW feels that shame needs to move to the other side, but at the time of the trial she waived her right to a private trial because she couldn’t bear the thought of being in an enclosed room with the male judges, 50 male defendants, their mostly male lawyers…and just her and her two male lawyers. She needed the support of others, especially women, in that room because she knew what was coming. It was nothing to do with highlighting the crimes against her at the time (she says that at the time she was blown away by how much attention the trial received nationally and internationally and wasn’t at all prepared for it), although now she’s glad that has happened. Gisele herself wouldn’t recognise herself in what you’ve written. There’s a lot more in the book that might surprise you - she’s no Joan of Arc! It’s a really interesting and quick read, actually. I recommend it.

Not only, but latest reports have the King formally informed in 2019 of AMW's behavior as Trade Envoy.

As in, they were well aware but were fine with it all...

It’s ridiculous how eager some people are to smear women instead of focusing on Andrew’s behaviour.

Next you’ll be claiming Camilla turned you into a newt and getting the kindling ready.

Nobody has actually provided any evidence of AMW abusing underage girls

But he is guilty, he is royal the public don't need proof that just need fruit to throw at him nothing has changed from the olden days if people want someone to be guilty they are

Can you explain what exactly you think Camillas involvement is with AMW and sexual abuse? What do you think she has done?

King and Camilla are the same person? Camilla is supposed to have done what?

Personally the more I hear about Gisele Pelicot the more i admire her, she is a remarkable woman, we should all be so grateful that she is willing to talk about what all those men did to her. I doubt there's a single woman who doesn't pause and think about what men are like after hearing her describe what her husband and all those ordinary men did to her. And still argued about even though they were filmed doing it. However it is a shame imo that Camilla isn't more honest about the men in the R F, mainly her BIL, but her current husband was no angel.

No. Walk a mile in her shoes before you dare to judge her. Luckily most of us do not know what that level of abuse could do to a woman. She is a survivor who is healing and moving on in life, so whatever she did or didn't do was undoubtedly the best she could manage at the time.

On the other hand what great timing. It shows her sympathy for abuse victims.

I think we are going through interesting times. A part of it being who u stand with by and next to . With Epstein a lot of adults had to be enablers for it to happen and his friendship or sphere of influence was far and wide. Philanthropy seems to be a mask used by Savile , Technocrats , Royal PR machine and it slows down scrutiny because people are not shunned.
Its sad that charity has been used in this way because now we have to look at the reasons for position. Why did Charles for example bestow Naomi Campbell honors to humanity when she has 4 convictions for assault and was also guilty of using her Charity to have only a couple of mil for her own expenses. So why bestow this Character with Honors with that publicly known history ? So once you tarnish that brand and u see the patterns of alignment u have to question the Royal seal and I wonder if I would question whether being aligned with Royals should be such an appointment considering its such predator infested waters.

She (GP) has the right to her own decisions.

Im no fan of the RF (never have been, all my life, not just AMW) but I think QC publically supporting and promoting the victims of DV is one of the few things I think is admirable.

Surely a meeting which puts the victims of sexual assault front and centre is exactly the correct response to the Andrew situation?