How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

[Roadtripwithpretzels]

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

No, he didn't. He had keys to some hospitals, which was bad, bad, bad.

But not access to "all their homes".

I really doubt PH left because of any prior knowledge of AMW's wrongdoing, he & Meghan speak fondly of a visit they had to Royal Lodge with Fergie present on their Netflix Doc.

Oh, right. So not worth talking about then.

@berthasbloomers, is correct that quite a few posters on this board have been saying that h and m left because of Andrew! , obviously they were put straight immediately.

Well surely it has as much validity as anything you say ? Or other people? They are a poster. Is there a hierarchy of posters here?

I agree. But they ARE responsible if they cover up alleged crimes

I don't think there will be a civil war.

Having said that if I were a republican the first step I would push for is clarification of Royal finances. It's all really tangled and unclear, understandable because the finances have been organised over centuries, and really needs reform and clear lines of who owns what and who controls what. Then if the monarchy ends we start with clarity of what the Windsor family own and what the Nation have.

IF

Yes. They are also responsible if they took part or trafficked or or or ....

People are too fricking lazy and self centred in this country to have a civil war.

But I wouldn't want a war, not from indolence but because of the awful division, destruction and loss of life. Things are divided enough in this country already. If people want a system change then they need to put a nice clear, detailed case forward and keep putting it forward.

I haven’t read the whole thread. But this talk of revolution is ridiculous and an attempt to make change frightening . Which it isn’t . Change is very much needed regarding what the Windsors have been embroiled in .

All of the Windsors knew . William is what - in his 40s . He’s a middle aged man . He was right there wasn’t he when they had their meeting about Harry leaving and that was of little importance.

Why are you repeating IF. When I actually used the word 'if'.

No need for you to repeat what I actually said.

Yes, that's nonsense! You only have to read their exit statement to understand that.
The reasons were clear.

Just felt the correct word needed bolding .

Yes, the Sussexes have always been good friends with all the York family. Nothing negative at all about any of them in all their interviews, book, Netflix, magazine articles etc.
Front and centre at the wedding

I agree with you, Jeff, though. Being friendly with people, giving them lifts, talking to them outside a church etc doesn't mean that you are guilty by association, or that you know what they're up to.

To people trying to make out that the no.1 and no.2 members of an institution hold no responsiblity for others working in public service in the same institution, you should have listened to Virginia Giuffre’s US representative on Sky News just now!

She said that the UK is being heralded globally for taking the lead on this and being one of the first countries to make arrests of people in high office.

That’s because people recognise that it is a just thing to do.

And now we will see where the investigation goes …

… but the RF can’t be a jolly united family one one day just when it suits them, for example, when spending £ 72 million of tax payers money for a bling Coronation, and then suddenly transform in to non-connected, disunited. independent members of an institution who know nothing about one another when things seriously hit the fan in the course of their public duty!

It just won’t wash I’m afraid.

Are you saying, @Roadtripwithpretzels that all members of the RF are guilty, even those no longer official royals?

Please don't do that. I said IF.

I’m saying that if we have a Royal family to represent the country, rather than a single unambivalent, elected head of state. and the monarch and their heir are part of that institution, then they should hold some culpability. It’s not good enough that they shrug their shoulders and pretend that they had no idea what AMW was doing!

Ok. So you would contend that they knew what AMW was doing. Completely?
Just the monarch and the heir...or others?

The line between facts and evidence and personal opinions and gossip should never be crossed when we are talking about serious crimes!
we are no longer discussing whether William is lazy or likes curry or Catherine dislikes t cozy’s , and I’m sure that republicans are very happy about today’s outcome ( as we all are ) but trying to drag the entire family down to achieve goals without proof just a feeling isn’t on .
it would be wrong for any person regardless of whether you are a “fan” or not .

If your partner has attended a strip show on a stag do, had a lap dance from a potentially trafficked woman, watched porn featuring some coerced women, are you guilty by association?

FGS for the millionth time: a trafficked woman cannot consent to sex regardless of her age.