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How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

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Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 08:21

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

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wordler · 19/02/2026 22:09

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 21:58

Thank you @wordler

I agree with so much in your post but especially this:

The powerful connections seem to span all governments and all areas of industry.
Andrew wasn't being protected because of the late Queen. Or because we have a constitutional monarchy. He was being protected alongside all the powerful men in several countries who wanted to continue doing what they wanted whenever they wanted to without any consequences.

I have been saying this for months.

Some have taken this as me trying to excuse AMW. I haven't been; I think he should account for anything he has done.
I also think there are many much more powerful men who are nowhere near being held to account.

I know I feel absolutely helpless and hopeless at this point. It's a whole world order - there's no stopping it - like snakes they will shed their skins and apart from a few sacrificial lambs like Andrew and Mandelson, perhaps even someone like Bill Gates, the network itself will perpetuate.

Honestly republicans fill your boots with the scandal and do whatever it takes to make a constitutional change but it will not change a thing when it comes to the reality of who is doing what at the level of these people.

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 22:09

I agree @bluegreygreen and by concentrating blame on RF it’s deflecting investigation on these other people

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 22:18

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 22:09

I agree @bluegreygreen and by concentrating blame on RF it’s deflecting investigation on these other people

I agree.
Plus, good points again @bluegreygreen and @wordler

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 22:20

Honestly republicans fill your boots with the scandal and do whatever it takes to make a constitutional change but it will not change a thing when it comes to the reality of who is doing what at the level of these people.

People who read my posts will know I'm a constitutional monarchist. I believe it's a structure that can work well but only when all parties (monarch/government/parliament/legislature) take their responsibilities seriously. Others have different opinions and there are some good discussions on the board.

I think the international nature of this network shows that the problem is not the monarchy.

You're right, it will be used by republicans to push for change, but stepping back and looking at the breadth of this shows that response to be illogical.

wordler · 19/02/2026 22:36

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 22:20

Honestly republicans fill your boots with the scandal and do whatever it takes to make a constitutional change but it will not change a thing when it comes to the reality of who is doing what at the level of these people.

People who read my posts will know I'm a constitutional monarchist. I believe it's a structure that can work well but only when all parties (monarch/government/parliament/legislature) take their responsibilities seriously. Others have different opinions and there are some good discussions on the board.

I think the international nature of this network shows that the problem is not the monarchy.

You're right, it will be used by republicans to push for change, but stepping back and looking at the breadth of this shows that response to be illogical.

Haven't seen @bemusedamerican on here today but I think she would agree with me that living here in the American news cycle at the moment just makes you want to despair. It honestly feels like life is never going to be normal again.

WhaAMess · 19/02/2026 22:38

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 20:20

a spokesman for Charles has denied that already.

A royal family member denying something….they definitely didn’t do it then because they always tell the truth right? lol.

They’ve all helped cover up, I wouldn’t believe anything they say.

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 22:41

I think she's about but not posting much @wordler.

I can only imagine - UK feels shaky enough.

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 22:41

WhaAMess · 19/02/2026 22:38

A royal family member denying something….they definitely didn’t do it then because they always tell the truth right? lol.

They’ve all helped cover up, I wouldn’t believe anything they say.

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But it's pointless people coming up with silly, unprovable claims.

NanFlanders · 19/02/2026 22:42

I'm a committed republican, but I can't really blame the fella for what his uncle did. And he didn't contribute to the 12 million payoff AFAIK.

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 22:43

On another thread, "Andrew isn't really Philip's son", another one "he'll get away with everything"
Just a plethora of unsubstantiated claims, gossip and fabrication.

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 22:45

I hope the truth comes out. In the meantime, if A has committed this crime, then justice should prevail.

WhaAMess · 19/02/2026 23:09

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 22:41

But it's pointless people coming up with silly, unprovable claims.

This board is usually full of unprovable claims. People only seem to have an issue when it’s about Charles, William, even Andrew.

They have covered up, they’ve only taken action when forced because it’s so bad and so much has become public knowledge, so there is good reason to not believe anything Charles or the rest of them say.

WhaAMess · 19/02/2026 23:10

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 22:41

I think she's about but not posting much @wordler.

I can only imagine - UK feels shaky enough.

A lot of the regulars are quiet today.

Jbum · 19/02/2026 23:11

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 19:08

The line between facts and evidence and personal opinions and gossip should never be crossed when we are talking about serious crimes!
we are no longer discussing whether William is lazy or likes curry or Catherine dislikes t cozy’s , and I’m sure that republicans are very happy about today’s outcome ( as we all are ) but trying to drag the entire family down to achieve goals without proof just a feeling isn’t on .
it would be wrong for any person regardless of whether you are a “fan” or not .

Oh the irony of you writing this given all the comments you make. Swallow your own advice

Jbum · 19/02/2026 23:11

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PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 23:16

WhaAMess · 19/02/2026 23:09

This board is usually full of unprovable claims. People only seem to have an issue when it’s about Charles, William, even Andrew.

They have covered up, they’ve only taken action when forced because it’s so bad and so much has become public knowledge, so there is good reason to not believe anything Charles or the rest of them say.

No, I'm talking about the threads on Andrew. As I've already said, I hope that justice is served. I think making wild claims about the situation doesn't help though.
Anyway. It's a shame poor Virginia Guiffre wasn't able to witness today's events. It may have helped her get at least some satisfaction.
Too late for her though.

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 23:37

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 21:58

Thank you @wordler

I agree with so much in your post but especially this:

The powerful connections seem to span all governments and all areas of industry.
Andrew wasn't being protected because of the late Queen. Or because we have a constitutional monarchy. He was being protected alongside all the powerful men in several countries who wanted to continue doing what they wanted whenever they wanted to without any consequences.

I have been saying this for months.

Some have taken this as me trying to excuse AMW. I haven't been; I think he should account for anything he has done.
I also think there are many much more powerful men who are nowhere near being held to account.

What surprises me is that some people think the truth will come out. Some people act as if this business is a surprise. As long as man has been on this Earth there has always been and always will be rich and powerful men who indulge in unsavoury things. It's naive to think you will ever stop this, expose it or know the " truth". That's no reason not to try I hear you say - true but it won't ever achieve the kind of world some people think.

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 23:39

Peter Hunt on the BBC raising good questions about accountability for the entire royal family on Newsnight tonight.

He is saying it is “a moment of jeopardy” for the institution of the monarchy.

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RainbowBagels · 19/02/2026 23:41

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 22:20

Honestly republicans fill your boots with the scandal and do whatever it takes to make a constitutional change but it will not change a thing when it comes to the reality of who is doing what at the level of these people.

People who read my posts will know I'm a constitutional monarchist. I believe it's a structure that can work well but only when all parties (monarch/government/parliament/legislature) take their responsibilities seriously. Others have different opinions and there are some good discussions on the board.

I think the international nature of this network shows that the problem is not the monarchy.

You're right, it will be used by republicans to push for change, but stepping back and looking at the breadth of this shows that response to be illogical.

I agree that the sex trafficking aspect is not to do with the Monarchy but the extreme lengths Palace staff seem to have gone to to shut people up, the ignoring and minimising of what AMW has been doing and I believe the ridiculous and unconstitutional spectacle of Parliament refusing to discuss the RF is to do with the Monarchy. I don't mind a Monarch, as long as, as you say everyone does their job. But no one has. If the Epstein files hadn't been released none of this would be happening, because our establishment has covered up the trade envoy files. We could have a far smaller properly accountable Constitutional Monarchy that is not allowed to exempt itself from laws, pays taxes, doesn't own huge swathes of the country for no reason and is fully accountable and answerable to Parliament. It would still exist, and maybe it would do them some good to have some accountability.

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 23:42

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 20:21

Where did you read this?

Oh a whip round 😂

Upupandaway10 · 19/02/2026 23:44

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 19/02/2026 08:42

Does his support and highlighting of all good causes he’s involved with now count for nothing because his uncle is a wrongun? I mean they have come out in support of the victims, given a statement indicating support of any police investigation.

What do you want William to do specifically?

Yes 👍🏻

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 23:49

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 18:45

I agree with you, Jeff, though. Being friendly with people, giving them lifts, talking to them outside a church etc doesn't mean that you are guilty by association, or that you know what they're up to.

Look how many wives have no idea what they were up to in the Relationships boards! Does Harry bear knowledge too and didn't speak up? Does Meghan have knowledge with her close Soho House ties? Are they guilty by association too?

PoppysAunt · 19/02/2026 23:50

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 23:49

Look how many wives have no idea what they were up to in the Relationships boards! Does Harry bear knowledge too and didn't speak up? Does Meghan have knowledge with her close Soho House ties? Are they guilty by association too?

Absolutely this.

MidWayThruJanuary · 19/02/2026 23:51

@berthasbloomers
What about his siblings - Anne and Edward? What did they know?

WhaAMess · 20/02/2026 00:01

Jbum · 19/02/2026 23:11

Oh the irony of you writing this given all the comments you make. Swallow your own advice

😃