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Optics Check: Waleses public support for Andrew: William and Catherine’s driving and embracing Andrew is a massive error?

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Foxypuppy · 02/02/2026 11:55

Are the Waleses and the Andrew Unity Drive A bridge too far? Seriously, why were William and Catherine protecting Andrew?

I’ve always been a supporter of the Prince and Princess of Wales, but I am finding it harder and harder to defend their recent excuses and petty behavior regarding 'family unity'.

Specifically, I’m looking at the optics of William personally driving Prince Andrew to church at Balmora Daily Mail report here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12449837/Prince-William-drives-disgraced-uncle-Prince-Andrew-church-Balmoral.html

This wasn't just a family carpool; it was a deliberate, televised statement of support. William was in the driver's seat, Andrew in the passenger seat, and Catherine in the back.

At the same time, we have royal commentators like Jennie Bond stating that William and Catherine would 'rather have Andrew as a neighbour than Meghan and Harry. Independent article here

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/william-kate-meghan-harry-frogmore-b2295732.html.

I understand that family dynamics are complicated and that they feel betrayed by the Sussexes' interviews. However:

  1. Harry and Meghan are a family feud involving books and Netflix deals, though they couldnt protect Meghan against racism, not even make an statement
  2. Prince Andrew is a man associated with Jeffrey Epstein, impliyed in e-mails to ne object in the death of a girl, hes a well known liar and with multi-million dollar settlement alongside much other bizarre stuff.

How can William and Catherine justify being part of the face of Andrew’s rehabilitation even after he was impliyed while being so publicly cold toward William’s own brother? Does anyone else feel like their moral compass is slightly off here? Surely a sister-in-law isn't worse than the Andrew crimes? Why he royal family and media even tried to protect him and only acted this year?

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LadiDahnya · 02/02/2026 12:05

Your links dont work. When was this?

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 12:07

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SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 12:09

The first link doesn't work and the second links to something completely unrelated. Are they both old links?

LittleGreenDragons · 02/02/2026 12:10
  1. Harry and Meghan are a family feud involving books and Netflix deals, though they couldnt protect Meghan against racism, not even make an statement

If I recall correctly the late Queen immediately started an internal investigation regarding the alleged racism. I also believe Harry later retracted the allegation as well.

oscilla · 02/02/2026 12:11

That was back in the day before the Epstein files disclosure was imminent. Once that became an issue, AMW was ostracised (rightly) and evicted.

I think it's all optics myself, and privately they still communicate and see each other under cover of darkness! They will be living close to each other soon enough anyway when the "Farm House" is refurbished to AMW's taste and there's plenty of room for the teddy bears. 😊

You couldn't help being cynical could you?

AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 12:21

Does anyone else feel like their moral compass is slightly off here?

Yes, I do. They’re showing who they really are. William didn’t have to be in a car with him, it was a show of support. They’re all in it together.

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 12:23

AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 12:21

Does anyone else feel like their moral compass is slightly off here?

Yes, I do. They’re showing who they really are. William didn’t have to be in a car with him, it was a show of support. They’re all in it together.

Do you have a link to a very recent occasion where this happened? The above link in the OP isn't working.

CloakedInGucci · 02/02/2026 12:27

LadiDahnya · 02/02/2026 12:05

Your links dont work. When was this?

August 2023.

Pre-Epstein files release. But not before the allegations about Andrew.

littleburn · 02/02/2026 12:28

Your links don’t work OP. The title of your Daily Mail link about William driving name checks ‘Prince Andrew’ so must be historical. And I guess Jenny Bond can express whatever opinion she wants if it fills column inches?

Foxypuppy · 02/02/2026 12:29

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 12:09

The first link doesn't work and the second links to something completely unrelated. Are they both old links?

I cant edit the topic anymore but here are the links. It seems its old link indeed

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/william-kate-meghan-harry-frogmore-b2295732.html

https://people.com/kate-middleton-prince-william-prince-andrew-drive-church-balmoral-7853385

(I couldn't find anymore that one in daily Mail article it seems it was scrambled from the Internet. I hope people archived it or find more of those online, pretty sure they are oit there)

William and Kate would prefer Andrew as neighbour over Harry and Meghan, says expert

‘They probably don’t want Harry and Meghan as their near neighbours,’ said commentator Jennie Bond

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/william-kate-meghan-harry-frogmore-b2295732.html

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SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 12:33

Changed days compared to the Duchess of Kent's funeral where William quite obviously wants nothing to do with A

L0bstersLass · 02/02/2026 12:39

Just like your links, you are out of date OP.

tokennamechange · 02/02/2026 12:44

You're complaining about something that happened two and a half years ago!

I'm the furthest tthing from a monarchist but at least check your facts before you start stirring things. There may have been rumours (but there are all sorts of rumours about the RF) but unless you can prove they knew about everything before the files were released then you can't blame them for not being psychic.

AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 12:47

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 12:33

Changed days compared to the Duchess of Kent's funeral where William quite obviously wants nothing to do with A

Is that where he was stood by Andrew? He could have moved. He also smirked at something he said and tried to cover his mouth to cover the smirk.

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 12:49

CloakedInGucci · 02/02/2026 12:27

August 2023.

Pre-Epstein files release. But not before the allegations about Andrew.

The files were released two days ago. Andrew was alredy implied. They are ok with siding with someone accused onf pedophilia. And for, sure had access to all it. Lets not play dumb

Thedom · 02/02/2026 12:50

Some posters seem to hate that William and Catherine are squeaky clean! ( usually the ‘Friends of the Sussex ‘ squad )

Cacap198 · 02/02/2026 12:56

They are well known liars. They are ok with gaslighting the public and thought everything' would go away. I don't know why anyone would be ok with it or believe the palace. They are there to protect their own, their pedos, their criminal, their tax evasions, their shady business with webs, their racism. Not to protect or be honest with the people. That's quite clear. What a shame

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 12:58

This was a really old article. W clearly distanced himself from A at that later funeral. He wasn't smirking - he looked annoyed.

I see nothing wrong in W driving A to church. For all you know, he was ordered to do so by Charles to convey some weird kind of family unity. He could also have been telling Andrew off in the car because they were in private.

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 13:00

I have family members who I can't stand but I am polite at family and public events. W can't exactly start screaming "Reprobate, sinner" at A when he sees him.

Jbum · 02/02/2026 13:07

Thedom · 02/02/2026 12:50

Some posters seem to hate that William and Catherine are squeaky clean! ( usually the ‘Friends of the Sussex ‘ squad )

How can you be so sure they are squeaky clean?

If recent events have shown us anything is that even the most heinous of things can be hidden away from the public.

So no i don't think they are squeaky clean thats just what is presented to us. It doesn't fool me one bit.

oscilla · 02/02/2026 13:16

IMV the entire RF is a total irrelevancy now. But we are still paying for them, that's the problem.

I suppose in some ways given their uselessness to the general population, for the future K + Q, there's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's NOT being talked about.

AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 13:19

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 12:58

This was a really old article. W clearly distanced himself from A at that later funeral. He wasn't smirking - he looked annoyed.

I see nothing wrong in W driving A to church. For all you know, he was ordered to do so by Charles to convey some weird kind of family unity. He could also have been telling Andrew off in the car because they were in private.

He smirked and then tried to cover the smirk with his hand.

Foxypuppy · 02/02/2026 13:19

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 12:58

This was a really old article. W clearly distanced himself from A at that later funeral. He wasn't smirking - he looked annoyed.

I see nothing wrong in W driving A to church. For all you know, he was ordered to do so by Charles to convey some weird kind of family unity. He could also have been telling Andrew off in the car because they were in private.

Its not old. One was from 2023 and other was from Last year. I think its still very relevant and they should be analysed and accountable.

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AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 13:20

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 12:58

This was a really old article. W clearly distanced himself from A at that later funeral. He wasn't smirking - he looked annoyed.

I see nothing wrong in W driving A to church. For all you know, he was ordered to do so by Charles to convey some weird kind of family unity. He could also have been telling Andrew off in the car because they were in private.

William is a grown man. He can say ‘no father, I won’t be driving the rapey relative’.

AllTheReasons · 02/02/2026 13:21

Foxypuppy · 02/02/2026 13:19

Its not old. One was from 2023 and other was from Last year. I think its still very relevant and they should be analysed and accountable.

It should. There are people here who want to minimise it, dismiss it and tell you to be quiet, nothing to see here, it’s old etc. You have to be suspicious of the motives of people who seem to want to close down conversation about it.