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Sarah Ferguson - just as bad as Andrew?

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TheHaplessWit · 31/01/2026 18:26

So whilst Epstein was serving house arrest following his conviction for sex trafficking young girls, Fergie sent him messages - from the BBC:

Some emails in the latest release appear to be between Epstein and Sarah Ferguson, Andrew's ex-wife.
One email dated 4 April 2009, was signed "Love, Sarah, The red Head.!!"
It says that she was going to be in Palm Beach and wanted to have tea. The email goes on to discuss ideas for Ferguson's company, Mother's Army. The former Duchess of York refers to Epstein as "My dear spectacular and special friend Jeffrey".
She calls him a "legend" and says "I am so proud of you".
The financier was still under house arrest for his 2008 conviction when the email exchange was sent.

Ignoring the money she took and questionable business arrangements, ignoring Andrews behaviour even (that's in another thread). How can any woman, who knows this man is trafficking young girls, act like this?

Please tell me she no longers receives any sort of public funding/housing from the tax payer?

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ThePoshUns · 02/02/2026 18:56

He has no shame

AngelinaFibres · 02/02/2026 19:30

Vixenlover · 02/02/2026 08:41

You say Andrew’s mother had affairs. Is that right? The Queen had affairs?

There was chat for years and years that Prince Phillip was not Prince Edwards father. The Queen and D of E were getting on very badly at that point but absolutely couldn't divorce. The Queens racing manager was Lord Prochester (Porchie). He and the Queen were very close. The gossip was that he was PEs father.

AmazingGraced · 02/02/2026 19:45

Coffeeishot · 02/02/2026 18:56

Amw was photographed today driving through Windsor park waving and smiling at passers by, he really is repulsive,

That's what I don't understand at all. He clearly just doesn't understand he's done anything wrong. Any normal person would be hiding in a cupboard... for life.

baorhausfrau · 02/02/2026 19:45

AngelinaFibres · 02/02/2026 19:30

There was chat for years and years that Prince Phillip was not Prince Edwards father. The Queen and D of E were getting on very badly at that point but absolutely couldn't divorce. The Queens racing manager was Lord Prochester (Porchie). He and the Queen were very close. The gossip was that he was PEs father.

Nah, he's meant to be Andy's Dad, not Edwards.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 02/02/2026 19:58

I think the whole Royal Family and their hangers on could be described as snouts in the trough.
The whole concept of Royalty. to me smacks of mental illness.

CathyorClaire · 02/02/2026 20:09

Ukisgaslit · 02/02/2026 10:00

Off topic but am I alone in finding Eugenie’s Anti slavery charity somewhat cynical ?
I mean due to her parents very close relationship with an international sex trafficker - that’s slavery too.

It’s possible she is entirely sincere but she should have been advised that it looks like deflection as that is how charity is used by the rest of the Windsors
William loadsofpalaces - oh dear better look like I care about homelessness

William and Charles - massively excessive carbon footprint- better set up environmental charities

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I'd be surprised if she wanted to draw too much attention to this 'initiative' TBH.

It was founded in 2017 then appears to have lain fairly dormant until 2023 when it was 98 days late in filing accounts.

She held a gala night in late 2023 which raised £1m but cost £280k while £650k was dumped in an interest bearing account.

The 2025 accounts show a very substantial drop in income in comparison to 2024 but an eye watering rise in salary costs which when combined with overheads appears to account for around 2/3 of the expenditure.

It really looks very much as though she's taken a leaf out of her parents' charitable playbook.

Buffs · 02/02/2026 20:14

The whole greedy, unpleasant family disgusts me. Anyone else would have faced criminal investigation for what Andrew did. He is also still being protected and financed by his weak, complicit brother. It’s just plain wrong. The British taxpayer funds this family and this paedophile plus his greedy relatives live the life of Riley at our expense.

Laura95167 · 02/02/2026 20:14

JustPocketChange · 31/01/2026 18:56

I don’t think she’s as bad as Andrew, although I’m sure there is more to come so I should withhold judgement. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

The girls were over 16 which was all anyone paid attention to here at the time.

This was 2008/2009. You’re talking like it was hundreds of years ago, we definitely would have thought this sort of thing was despicable only 16/17 years ago.

The minimising 🙄

Absolutely agree. In the UK if she was over 16 we may have thought sleeve not paedo but sex trafficking is AND was a crime whether the victim was a child or an adult.

The fact she took his money, AFTER there was irrefutable proof of exactly what he is. (Not that im convinced she didnt know sooner)

Theyre both dangerous and entitled. My heart breaks for their daughters, grandchildren and wider family. Disgusting people

CathyorClaire · 02/02/2026 20:15

The one good thing about the possibility that Mandelson might be the subject of a parliamentary procedure, police investigation or some form of inquiry is that it will also drag ‘Trade Envoy Andrew’ and Sarah into the mix.

I'm just amazed there hasn't been more vociferous calling for the disgracefully sealed Trade Envoy records to be released.

I do think it might happen quite soon though.

CathyorClaire · 02/02/2026 20:19

Coffeeishot · 02/02/2026 18:56

Amw was photographed today driving through Windsor park waving and smiling at passers by, he really is repulsive,

Grabbing centre stage by any means and at any chance he gets has been his shameless MO since Newsnight.

wordler · 02/02/2026 20:20

Buffs · 02/02/2026 20:14

The whole greedy, unpleasant family disgusts me. Anyone else would have faced criminal investigation for what Andrew did. He is also still being protected and financed by his weak, complicit brother. It’s just plain wrong. The British taxpayer funds this family and this paedophile plus his greedy relatives live the life of Riley at our expense.

At this point apart from his main co-trafficker no one who consorted with Epstein on his island, in his parties, on his plane has faced criminal charges - it’s not just Andrew.

And rich powerful men aside - in regular life the stats on bringing successful prosecutions for sexual assault and rape are depressingly low.

Andrew’s behaviour is disgusting as is the terrible system that protects men like him across most of the world.

NewAgeNewMe · 02/02/2026 20:38

CathyorClaire · 02/02/2026 20:15

The one good thing about the possibility that Mandelson might be the subject of a parliamentary procedure, police investigation or some form of inquiry is that it will also drag ‘Trade Envoy Andrew’ and Sarah into the mix.

I'm just amazed there hasn't been more vociferous calling for the disgracefully sealed Trade Envoy records to be released.

I do think it might happen quite soon though.

I’d say depends how many other high profile people men are involved.

MoonWoman69 · 02/02/2026 20:48

And the email she sent him congratulating him on the birth of his baby "boy", when he has never had children?! That seems very odd to me!
I'd say she's as bad as the rest; same as her husband, Mandelson, Trump et al. Anyone who dealt with Epstien has dirt on their hands.

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:53

Bunny65 · 02/02/2026 18:41

She doesn’t get any public funding but she’s lived rent free in Royal Lodge for years, tolerated because of her children. She has earned millions and how she’s managed to squander it all is the eternal mystery as she hasn’t had housing costs for many years. She’s just a greedy fool.

I suspect that AMW and Fergie have a lot of dirt they could dish on each other so they have stuck together until now.

She obviously has had money at some point as she bought a house in 2022 for £4.25 million although she sold at a loss a few months ago.

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:57

Buffs · 02/02/2026 20:14

The whole greedy, unpleasant family disgusts me. Anyone else would have faced criminal investigation for what Andrew did. He is also still being protected and financed by his weak, complicit brother. It’s just plain wrong. The British taxpayer funds this family and this paedophile plus his greedy relatives live the life of Riley at our expense.

The US allowed 29 men to sign secret deals - I hope they get named.

Bunny65 · 02/02/2026 21:59

AngelinaFibres · 02/02/2026 19:30

There was chat for years and years that Prince Phillip was not Prince Edwards father. The Queen and D of E were getting on very badly at that point but absolutely couldn't divorce. The Queens racing manager was Lord Prochester (Porchie). He and the Queen were very close. The gossip was that he was PEs father.

No, the gossip was that he was Prince Andrew's father.

Coffeeishot · 02/02/2026 22:07

CathyorClaire · 02/02/2026 20:19

Grabbing centre stage by any means and at any chance he gets has been his shameless MO since Newsnight.

Honestly it looked like he thinks the whole thing is hilarious!

Lunde · 02/02/2026 23:41

According to the DM - Fergie took Beatrice and Eugenie (aged 20 and 19) to visit Epstein just 5 days after he was released from jail in Florida after his CSA sentence in 2009.

WTF was she thinking?

https://archive.is/n8aTW

Bowies · 03/02/2026 02:46

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 31/01/2026 18:31

It’s not that obvious though. The sex trafficking at that time would not have been illegal in the uk. The girls were over 16 which was all anyone paid attention to here at the time. The girls would not have been ‘illegal’ here, so his UK friends would have thought prosecuting him was weird. No one was calling him a paedophile back then, in the UK.

Much has been made clearer since.

I mean, don’t misunderstand me, they were sleazebags and we now know probably worse, but that wouldn’t have been obvious then. I wasn’t paying much attention, but remember being surprised by the headlines, as in UK terms it didn't make sense.

Of course it was obvious, you weren’t paying attention as you said and don’t understand UK law as well as you think it seems.

The children’s act was passed 1989 in the UK, 17 is a child. Former PA - not a child, years older with DC of his own. Also in a trusted authority position.

If that’s not enough, the case then involves trafficking of a child from US to U.K.

Trafficking is also illegal at any age.

Bowies · 03/02/2026 02:53

There is evidence of physical contact with victims and more direct involvement by former PA but she’s pretty despicable and ‘up there’ especially in how she’s fawned, colluded and seemingly been willing to expose and exploit her own DC in exchange for money.

Bowies · 03/02/2026 05:32

TightlyLacedCorset · 01/02/2026 11:51

I am doubtful and not going to be complicit in minimising the gravity of the recent picture of him straddling what looks like a child. That does not look like a full grown woman to me, the hands are tiny. That looks like at best, a young teen.

He's been alleged by Virginia Giuffre to have had an orgy with young girls who couldn't speak English.

I've had an unsheltered childhood and from my experience I am extremely EXTREMELY doubtful that a man can knowingly and consistently enjoy the company of a paedophile and not share their proclivities. At best (and only if he retained some honour and awareness of the danger of being found out) he would have chosen girls as close to the barely acceptable age as possible.

So I think Andrew at least to be guilty of more than stupidity.

I've even flipped in my view of Sarah since my previous post this morning after reading that she referred to her daughter as being off to a 'shagging weekend'. People who are around perverts or think constantly about sex, start referring to sex in inappropriate contexts and in casual conversation. They can't help it.

Sarah clearly either knew Epstein's proclivities and is attempting to appeal to it, or...it's so endemic to her persona it's nothing to her to mention aspects of her daughter's sex life to business acquaintances....or both.

I agree the person on the floor looks like a child in body, whether she is under 18 or not, we don’t know. I find it harrowing and damning.

She looks in a position of vulnerability and the way he is looming over her and especially the photograph with his hand on her stomach makes me feel physically sick.

I note some reporters are referring to her as being female rather than a woman.

He should be investigated and held to account. I’m glad he’s lost his titles but he’s seeing being propped up and protected in a way Joe Public wouldn’t.

He’s actually worse than Joe Public, as it’s become clear from the communications how far he also exploited our institutions and gave legitimacy and cover to the sexual exploitation of children and young women through his position in the RF.

The trafficked Russian woman is also worrying from a political and security perspective given the wider political context.

He should rightly be moving in to prison IMO, not protected because of who he is, free to ride around on horses at another royal residence.

Zippedydodah · 03/02/2026 06:21

Lunde · 02/02/2026 23:41

According to the DM - Fergie took Beatrice and Eugenie (aged 20 and 19) to visit Epstein just 5 days after he was released from jail in Florida after his CSA sentence in 2009.

WTF was she thinking?

https://archive.is/n8aTW

And yet people are still insisting that the daughters are poor innocents in this whole shitshow? They would have known perfectly well why he was imprisoned yet presumably happily went along for the freebies.
And continued to associate with him over the following years.

Jack80 · 03/02/2026 07:18

I didnt realise she was till looking at articles she was and is awful like him.

AgeingGreycefully · 03/02/2026 07:53

To slightly play devils advocate for a moment, these exchanges were in 2008 when he was under house arrest on these charges. That means he was not yet convicted. Innocent until proven guilty? Once convicted and imprisoned as he was on lesser charges at state level not federal, there should definitely have been no further contact. As someone else stated, I don’t think either of them are very intelligent and Andrew in particular has always appeared to be extremely arrogant.

Craftysue · 03/02/2026 08:59

The author of Entitled was on Breakfast this morning - interesting that he believes Ferguson should be investigated for breaching charity laws. I wonder if there has been any investigation?

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